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Just don't forget to get your eSTMP IFR reservation slot for the IFR arrival NET 72hr prior.No Fisk arrivals, but we could arrive IFR or via the Warbird approach![]()
Just don't forget to get your eSTMP IFR reservation slot for the IFR arrival NET 72hr prior.No Fisk arrivals, but we could arrive IFR or via the Warbird approach![]()
Tickets are tickets as far as I know. Basically, you're looking at a colored wristband made of Tyvek. The only difference between wristbands is color - there's a different color for each day.I have a stupid question:
For Airventure tickets, can a non-member use a ticket that was purchased at the member price?
Yeah, you must have missed the debacle last year. The entire taxiway system gridlocked. People stay for the Wednesday night airshow and then bug out first thing Thursday.
I posted a picture of the line of planes stuck on the taxiway with the poem:
One fine Thursday morning in Oshkosh,
The pilots all decided to spit,
But they all got stuck on Papa,
The airport had turned into SHAVING CREAM (Be nice and clean, shave every day, and you'll always look keen).
And hung it on our operations building window.
@eman1200 why don't you want to go to Osh?
Sucks to wait in line, but really, that looks so cool. I wish we could have that much GA traffic in other places!
Especially easy when you don' thave any arrivals to interleave. You can just start emitting them at regular intervals.Sucks to wait in line, but really, that looks so cool. I wish we could have that much GA traffic in other places!
Also, OSH controllers can really get departures out amazingly fast. Sunday morning, they use both sides (left and right of centerline) plus LUAW, so there's always one just into ground effect, one rolling, one waiting to roll, and one positioning themselves on the runway. Bam, bam, bam. Probably 10-15 seconds or so between departures - And that's on a single runway, so around 10 departures per minute from the field.
@eman1200 why don't you want to go to Osh?
Leslie, my girlfriend, will pull up her chair by the flightline and watch the mass exodus for hours. I think it's her favorite part of the show!I suppose you can always look at the dark side of anything. I'm more of a glass half full kind of guy. Where else are you gonna get greeted by taxi views like this?
We do the same but on the front end. We like to set up chairs south of 27 near the Green Dot and watch arrivals on the first weekend.Leslie, my girlfriend, will pull up her chair by the flightline and watch the mass exodus for hours. I think it's her favorite part of the show!
I’m planning to stay in Watertown Friday night, into OSH on Saturday.Booked a hotel in Madison Friday night for an early Saturday arrival. Haven’t decided if I’m going to volunteer in Vintage again this year after the shenanigans last year.
What shenanigans is that? I see vintage is looking for volunteers amongst many others.Booked a hotel in Madison Friday night for an early Saturday arrival. Haven’t decided if I’m going to volunteer in Vintage again this year after the shenanigans last year.
That was the problem departing on Thursday AM last year. Warbirds doing joyrides, the Trimotors selling rides, inbounds, military stuff coming and going. The Rapid Rabbit (or similar) C-47 that got to the first position to depart and held up everyone for 3-4-5 minutes because they weren't ready...Especially easy when you don' thave any arrivals to interleave. You can just start emitting them at regular intervals.
What Shennanigans are we talking about. I work in the vintage flight line ops building and regularly talk to the chairman. I'll be there tomorrow through the bitter end. We do our best to make the volunteer experience good for everyone. Having an ******* fly is gyrocopter into a helo didn't help that year, but I got the EAA chaplain involved (fortunately Margy had his cell in her phone) as soon as I could and we ended up not only dealing with the witnesses (both our volunteers and the crowd) but also the wife of the deceased) and we did the best we could. If you have gripes, feel free to PM me and I'll pass them along.Booked a hotel in Madison Friday night for an early Saturday arrival. Haven’t decided if I’m going to volunteer in Vintage again this year after the shenanigans last year.
I’ll PM you. Won’t air dirty laundry here. It has to do with the aftermath of that incident and the handling by EAA.What Shennanigans are we talking about. I work in the vintage flight line ops building and regularly talk to the chairman. I'll be there tomorrow through the bitter end. We do our best to make the volunteer experience good for everyone. Having an ******* fly is gyrocopter into a helo didn't help that year, but I got the EAA chaplain involved (fortunately Margy had his cell in her phone) as soon as I could and we ended up not only dealing with the witnesses (both our volunteers and the crowd) but also the wife of the deceased) and we did the best we could. If you have gripes, feel free to PM me and I'll pass them along.
Mentor Flight thought they were real special Thursday morning last year on 27, like they were the only ones that needed to depart. Overheating engines dontchaknow.That was the problem departing on Thursday AM last year. Warbirds doing joyrides, the Trimotors selling rides, inbounds, military stuff coming and going. The Rapid Rabbit (or similar) C-47 that got to the first position to depart and held up everyone for 3-4-5 because they weren't ready...
It's about 6.5 hours of flying for me plus the time for a fuel stop. I always like to fly to an airport close to OSH, then go in early the next morning when I'm rested and traffic is light. I highly recommend this approach.Meeting with our crew tomorrow to plan our trip. We are tentatively launching on Tuesday with 3 aircraft. Looking at about 10 flight hours from Tampa. TBD whether we push the whole way in one day, or stage somewhere nearby for a Weds morning arrival.
What say you all?
Whatever you do, be sure you're well rested and fueled up before you fly in. Don't try to fly the arrival at the end of a 4+ hour leg. You need to be sharp.Meeting with our crew tomorrow to plan our trip. We are tentatively launching on Tuesday with 3 aircraft. Looking at about 10 flight hours from Tampa. TBD whether we push the whole way in one day, or stage somewhere nearby for a Weds morning arrival.
What say you all?
Any suggestions on a good overnight camping location coming from the south?Whatever you do, be sure you're well rested and fueled up before you fly in. Don't try to fly the arrival at the end of a 4+ hour leg. You need to be sharp.
10 flight hours in a day in a commercial operation is the limit for 2 crew (single pilot is 8 hours). That should give you an idea of what the experts think is enough/too much flying in a day.
With 10 hours of flying, plus likely weather along the way, plus the world's busiest airspace and airport plus unusual procedures all at the end, I'd overnight somewhere and fly in the next morning.
Camping? My first thought is 63C Adams County. They are well set up for camping, with shower facilities in the terminal and a fire pit. Paved runways if you want that. Generally they have excellent fuel prices as well (showing $4.99 in ForeFlight right now). It's also just 18.2nm northwest of the Endeavor Bridge that starts the Fisk arrival, so it'll be a nice convenient spot to start the procedure.Any suggestions on a good overnight camping location coming from the south?
Last year I stopped at Rough River, KY. That's an option for this year, though I would prefer further north.
Yes. They won’t know. Since you’ll most likely taxi together in trail it shouldn’t be an issue to collectively arrive at the same row in GAC. Maybe lead can have a sign in addition to GAC that says something to the effect he’s #1 of a flight of 3.So if we arrive as a flight of 3 aircraft, we we be allowed to park together in GAC? How do the taxi guys know we are a group?
Same here. ;-) Planned to go to the airport today before work (while the hangar was <90F), but as soon as I headed that way, I saw a huge cell in that direction. Aborted the airport run and beat everyone to the office by an hour. Took a two hour lunch to compensate and finished all the stuff I'd planned to do before work. Final packing to be done tomorrow, hopefully off the ground before 6:30 AM on Friday to give ourselves enough time to comfortably arrive before the Cherokee mass arrival at 11:00 CST.Been getting the RV ready for weeks now, The last 4 days are always crunch time.
We're packing the plane this afternoon with a target launch of 0700 on Friday so we'll be a couple of hours behind you. Is your buddy that's driving still coming and need a parking spot? If so what are the dates?Same here. ;-) Planned to go to the airport today before work (while the hangar was <90F), but as soon as I headed that way, I saw a huge cell in that direction. Aborted the airport run and beat everyone to the office by an hour. Took a two hour lunch to compensate and finished all the stuff I'd planned to do before work. Final packing to be done tomorrow, hopefully off the ground before 6:30 AM on Friday to give ourselves enough time to comfortably arrive before the Cherokee mass arrival at 11:00 CST.
Yep, he'll need parking. He has his IFR checkride with the DPE on Monday and will arrive at Osh on Tuesday.We're packing the plane this afternoon with a target launch of 0700 on Friday so we'll be a couple of hours behind you. Is your buddy that's driving still coming and need a parking spot? If so what are the dates?
When is planning to leave as we're departing Friday the 26th?Yep, he'll need parking. He has his IFR checkride with the DPE on Monday and will arrive at Osh on Tuesday.
Logistics question from a first-timer: When driving into the event, what's the best/quickest/easiest way to pick up a wristband band and use pre-paid parking? Where to enter, what signage to look for, anything to avoid?
Logistics question from a first-timer: When driving into the event, what's the best/quickest/easiest way to pick up a wristband band and use pre-paid parking? Where to enter, what signage to look for, anything to avoid?