Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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ADS-B prevents mid-air collisions.
And tracks your A$$ in real time for the Tax Man!ADS-B prevents mid-air collisions.
That Cirrus left wing looks really intact for an overshoot. Wonder where the strike actually landed then?
Some lucky peeps in that mixup. Gonna be an interesting insurance claim vs the Cirrus owner also.
ADS-B prevents mid-air collisions.
And the regulatory enforcement folks.And tracks your A$$ in real time for the Tax Man!
Someone elsewhere opined the Cirrus took the top off the Metro with their landing gear and you can see where the vertical stab on the metro got hit also by something. Just after a quick look at the photos.
Tower-controlled airports prevent mid-air collisions.ADS-B prevents mid-air collisions.
I mean.. Metroliner vs Cirrus.. I think we know who's winning. The Cirrus would have been toast without the chute. So I still high five'd myselfanyone else think tantulum was running around his room, high fiving himself
I never would have seen this!Ya gotta @ these things
Cirrus is not to be under estimated.. I'm not aware of a single inflight breakup and lord knows people have done stupid pilot tricks with them. The solid carbon fiber spar can take some abuseI can't even picture how that happens with the wing of the cirrus remaining intact
Watch it there Dan.I can tell you the results of the NTSB investigation almost out of the box. Lots of analysis of fields of view and then "Mutual failure of the pilots involved to see and avoid."
All I see are red x’s on iPad. You guys looking at these on computers?
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Video of the SR22 under canopy. It's low-res but I don't see the landing gear.
https://twitter.com/DenverChannel/status/1392560583950561281
While it beats the alternative, that landing must have hurt like hell.
ADS-B shows the Cirrus 145kts on downwind, 150+ on base with a ping returning 165 and 168.Read in another forum the cirrus was doing 175mph on downwind??? Maybe things just got fast base to final.
ADS-B shows the Cirrus 145kts on downwind, 150+ on base with a ping returning 165 and 168.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?ica...0&lon=-104.882&zoom=13.0&showTrace=2021-05-12
I love that the guy recording the video of the Cirrus is just watching it come out of the sky instead of rushing out to provide assistance. It couldn't have been more than a few hundred yards from him.
Holy cats. That's a student solo to remember! "Traffic to follow" indeed. Give that student his license, he passed the "keep your calm and work with ATC when things get weird" test with flying carpets.Some other footage.
Read in another forum the cirrus was doing 175mph on downwind??? Maybe things just got fast base to final.
How did you create/steal that YT? Love the solo shirt....that's a memorable solo.Some other footage.
It seems more likely that he was behind the airplane by a couple of beats. He said traffic in sight, but it's unclear if that's the airplane he's following or the SW4. Would have been better if he said "Cessna in sight". I'm thinking he was behind the plane and had target fixation on the runway overrun and didn't look left down final approach course before the turn. The whole concept of the Key, having right airspeed, altitude, sterile cockpit and plan at the base leg would have prevented it. Cirrus is on recording of 17R, the SW4 is on 17L. Will wait for the NTSB wisdom to have the final word. Everyone involved is probably at the keyboard typing reports at the moment.
How did you create/steal that YT? Love the solo shirt....that's a memorable solo.
Create/steal? I just copied the guy’s link.
I think the student on solo was behind him - because he called out the position of the Cirrus on the ground to the tower. There was a skyhawk ahead of him as well and agree with you.The fact that he was following a skyhawk, that I believe had a student on his first solo, going that fast is baffling to me.
Thinking through it, I would also guess the Cirrus would not be able to see the twin just before impact. The twin would have been at it's 8-9 o'clock position on the outside of the turn. Likely masked under the wing or fuselage. Given the speeds of the two planes and point of impact, the Cirrus was likely at the 2-3 o'clock position of the Metro, somewhere a crew on final approach probably isn't spending much time looking.
I’m leaning toward just plain overshooting final for 17R. But it is also possible he had an expectation bias for 17L since he had flown out and done some kind of a city tour before returning to the pattern at KAPA.But yeah. Cirrus appears to be registered local and shoulda known better how to deal with the parallels unless he thought he was being switched to the left for a full stop.