I don't want to name locations or names or where I'm at. But most might figure it out. It's a place where the instructors don't give a sheet about students, they're only selfish and all they care about is themselves and building hours.
At this point I've spent 20 hours in the pattern an am familiar. I've even done all ATC comms, takeoff, do pattern myself, and landings are usually a 6-8 out of 10, and go around when needed.
So we have to do a TOL Eval before solo prep. Of course I'm nervous a bit, but anyway we continue. My lead instructor not my main instructor had to evaluate me. On the day of evaluation, the problems arise that literally im 100% sure most of my peers aka student pilots probably didn't get. Suddenly, wind picked up a lot to 10-12 kts. I had never encountered more than like 7-8. Also, there were these weird wind shear or wind draft, whatever it is that suddenly jolts you to the left/right, up/down. On top, this was the BUSIEST pattern I've EVER had literally we were number 7 each time, on top of that, around 5 miles out, we have a giant hill higher than our TPA. Normally, in other places you can extend downwind straight and maintain tpa, however here, we've never gotten this far out. I know that you shouldn't go above TPA or cut into the base, but we had to, and my lead was already acting like a stone, as if he hated me so bad and hated being there even though I've only said hello to him like once before and we've had no issues, and he told me to cut into base, and go above TPA. I've also never gotten clear indications when to configure for landing either. My main instructor will have me configure even 4 miles out as soon as traffic passes my left wing, which I always thought was kind of pointless and wrong, and now suddenly when I configure he gets upset and acts like he just hates my guts. I told him if only I'd been trained when to properly configure, I would. Anyway he let me know 2.5 miles out on straight in final is when you're on glide path with the papi lights and that's when you configure. We also have to call out if we are on glide path, proper speed, and are configured and stabilized. I've been calling that Gp, airspeed, and configured pretty much when I line up on final, and call out stabilized 200 agl with my main for like the past 20 hours now and he's said nothing but good job on thr call outs, now suddenly the lead is saying you call out glide path airspeed and flaps at 300 and stable at 200. Also, the cockpit atmosphere felt so closed in with him that I literally started to lose track. He told me he would do comms and call traffic in sight. Since he's checking traffic, Im not paying attention AS MUCH to it, but not only doesn't he point the traffic like my main. He just stays silent, this led me TWICE, to just be confused since we had to extend downwind into the mountain SO LONG, to just miss hearing that we were cleared for the landing, or assume it was said, but that I missed it, leading me to configure before it was time, and of course he once again treated me VERY BADLY FOR IT. (yes for this one it's my fault, but it really doesn't help when the guy next to you is treating you like filth, like he hates you and he wishes he could be in the airlines already and then boasting or bragging about it, that's the vibe I got from him). Another thing was when taxing, another plane was coming from another direction and he was closer so I was obviously going to let him go first. I even decided to start braking like 6 to 8 plane LENGTHS away from him because I felt like I'd get **** if I didn't, next thing I know he mashes the brake in an angry way as if I was too unaware to stop despite being like 7 plane lengths away going like 3 knots while I'm already on the brakes gradually. (EDIT: this was right at the beginning and at this point I already knew I'd fail. First the conditions of the Eval are such that if the instructor ever takes control or gives verbal guidance, you fail. So when he mashed the brakes, I wasn't sure if that was fail or not but I already knew it would be bad and thays he's just trying to fail me and stress me out. I instantly realized he's so selfish and cares so much to get into the airlines, that he mashed the brakes when I'm already braking from SO FAR AWAY because he thinks he knows everything and is better than everyone else. He thinks I'll just go full throttle like an idiot and crash into that plane costing him HIS SELFISH desire to get an airline job, and at this point I knew I was in a very crappy situation dealing with someone who doesn't care about you succeeding, and is just DESPERATE to cover their a55 and overreacts on purpose very obviously just to make you feel bad so he can make it seem like I'm the idiot he doesn't want to be with who is risking his precious career by potentially going full throttle into another plane during taxi) Stuff like that already set me up for a VERY BAD MOOD.
And on top, I asked other students how their first Eval went with him. Especially the girls. What do you know, they all said he was so talkative and in a good mood. This fking nonsense really ****es me off and irritates me. By the time we were taxing to parking I was already gone in my mind. My main instructor usually comes perpendicular to our parking spot and adds power and turns to the left to align then shutdown. I tried to do the same thing but he got so fking angry for no reason, I tried to explain that my main instructor does that and that's what we do but he cut me off saying shutdown/terminate [checklist], I tried again to explain it and again he repeated shutdown/terminate, in a way that really it meant Stfu.
I don't understand this. All my life ive had either bad luck or dealt with people who Immeadiately feel adversarial with me even though I behave politely, don't get aggressive or cocky, etc. Wtf have I done to deserve this. I will bet a billion dollar my main and lead instructors definitely had the best instructors, and evaluators, and yet when it's their time to inspire hope and encourage people, they do none of that. They act on their own self interests. What should have been something simple for me ended up a failure. Even though with my main instructor I did 10 touch and Gos for each session doing comms as well flawlessly. I fking hate my life sometimes because I encounter ppl like this. Who the fk treats someone so badly who they've never even spoken more than a word to before. And with my luck, if I lodge a complaint, they're NEVER going to believe me or take my side, so I have to Stfu. And if I take an audio recorder and even RECORD them in the act of cursing me out let's say, and show it to them. The managers or whatever would kick me out simply for having the audacity to be able to PROVE to them that it's not me but it's them and their instructors causing me to have a hard time. So all I can do is Stfu and try to learn from this and deal with it, while over 95% of people go through their program with great instructors and or people who don't discourage them. Ffs he never once called out traffic even though it was his fking job to do and he specifically said he would. In situations like this I'd call tower to call my base, but when I did, she was the brand new Controller with a record of MULTIPLE MISTAKES, and seemingly didn't care or think at all that we were literally on our way to hit a MOUNTAIN. Literally NONE of the things I trained for, happened on evaluation day, nearly everything was something I'd never been trained to know or expect, or trained inadequately or wrongly or not told about. There's no procedure on what we should do to avoid that mountain for example, or when we should configure (one instructor says this while another says that), and while I will fail and learn alot from this, others will, on their Eval, absolutely have calm winds, zero traffic, beautiful weather, and the evaluator will make the mood so positive, and they will pass, I failed because it's like I was setup to fail, and was placed in situations literally no one else has on their TOL Eval. It kind of is upsetting knowing my peers will get perfect conditions for their Eval and pass, despite also not yet having gone through the things, that made me fail. I feel so disheartened and discouraged. Not to mention, before my Eval, the lead was also supposed to take 1 flight with me. As far as I know everyone else had flown with him once or twice before, but me, nope. It was supposed to happen, I was told it would, but then it didn't.
Anyone else had someone like this? I mean ffs if I was lead instructor and am evaluating someone, I know they're knew and nervous. I would make it about THEM. Its their training. I'd intervene ONLY if absolutely necessary. If a mistake is made, I'd kindly let them know and tell them no worries, and to learn from it. I'd also open up to them and make them feel at ease and comfortable, and be professional, not behave in a way that basically implies the whole time for them to Stfu, but without saying Stfu. Because that's what it felt like the whole time, as if he was saying Stfu, without saying it, because he's so afraid I'd complain and he'd get fired, and then boo hoo my airline job will go away, poor me. Like ok dude get your hours and go to your precious airline, but at least inspire the same confidence and expect the same training and respect that you most definitely also got, and I know he did because selfish people like this usually complain the second they don't get every single thing they want and need, but just help me make it also.
At this point I've spent 20 hours in the pattern an am familiar. I've even done all ATC comms, takeoff, do pattern myself, and landings are usually a 6-8 out of 10, and go around when needed.
So we have to do a TOL Eval before solo prep. Of course I'm nervous a bit, but anyway we continue. My lead instructor not my main instructor had to evaluate me. On the day of evaluation, the problems arise that literally im 100% sure most of my peers aka student pilots probably didn't get. Suddenly, wind picked up a lot to 10-12 kts. I had never encountered more than like 7-8. Also, there were these weird wind shear or wind draft, whatever it is that suddenly jolts you to the left/right, up/down. On top, this was the BUSIEST pattern I've EVER had literally we were number 7 each time, on top of that, around 5 miles out, we have a giant hill higher than our TPA. Normally, in other places you can extend downwind straight and maintain tpa, however here, we've never gotten this far out. I know that you shouldn't go above TPA or cut into the base, but we had to, and my lead was already acting like a stone, as if he hated me so bad and hated being there even though I've only said hello to him like once before and we've had no issues, and he told me to cut into base, and go above TPA. I've also never gotten clear indications when to configure for landing either. My main instructor will have me configure even 4 miles out as soon as traffic passes my left wing, which I always thought was kind of pointless and wrong, and now suddenly when I configure he gets upset and acts like he just hates my guts. I told him if only I'd been trained when to properly configure, I would. Anyway he let me know 2.5 miles out on straight in final is when you're on glide path with the papi lights and that's when you configure. We also have to call out if we are on glide path, proper speed, and are configured and stabilized. I've been calling that Gp, airspeed, and configured pretty much when I line up on final, and call out stabilized 200 agl with my main for like the past 20 hours now and he's said nothing but good job on thr call outs, now suddenly the lead is saying you call out glide path airspeed and flaps at 300 and stable at 200. Also, the cockpit atmosphere felt so closed in with him that I literally started to lose track. He told me he would do comms and call traffic in sight. Since he's checking traffic, Im not paying attention AS MUCH to it, but not only doesn't he point the traffic like my main. He just stays silent, this led me TWICE, to just be confused since we had to extend downwind into the mountain SO LONG, to just miss hearing that we were cleared for the landing, or assume it was said, but that I missed it, leading me to configure before it was time, and of course he once again treated me VERY BADLY FOR IT. (yes for this one it's my fault, but it really doesn't help when the guy next to you is treating you like filth, like he hates you and he wishes he could be in the airlines already and then boasting or bragging about it, that's the vibe I got from him). Another thing was when taxing, another plane was coming from another direction and he was closer so I was obviously going to let him go first. I even decided to start braking like 6 to 8 plane LENGTHS away from him because I felt like I'd get **** if I didn't, next thing I know he mashes the brake in an angry way as if I was too unaware to stop despite being like 7 plane lengths away going like 3 knots while I'm already on the brakes gradually. (EDIT: this was right at the beginning and at this point I already knew I'd fail. First the conditions of the Eval are such that if the instructor ever takes control or gives verbal guidance, you fail. So when he mashed the brakes, I wasn't sure if that was fail or not but I already knew it would be bad and thays he's just trying to fail me and stress me out. I instantly realized he's so selfish and cares so much to get into the airlines, that he mashed the brakes when I'm already braking from SO FAR AWAY because he thinks he knows everything and is better than everyone else. He thinks I'll just go full throttle like an idiot and crash into that plane costing him HIS SELFISH desire to get an airline job, and at this point I knew I was in a very crappy situation dealing with someone who doesn't care about you succeeding, and is just DESPERATE to cover their a55 and overreacts on purpose very obviously just to make you feel bad so he can make it seem like I'm the idiot he doesn't want to be with who is risking his precious career by potentially going full throttle into another plane during taxi) Stuff like that already set me up for a VERY BAD MOOD.
And on top, I asked other students how their first Eval went with him. Especially the girls. What do you know, they all said he was so talkative and in a good mood. This fking nonsense really ****es me off and irritates me. By the time we were taxing to parking I was already gone in my mind. My main instructor usually comes perpendicular to our parking spot and adds power and turns to the left to align then shutdown. I tried to do the same thing but he got so fking angry for no reason, I tried to explain that my main instructor does that and that's what we do but he cut me off saying shutdown/terminate [checklist], I tried again to explain it and again he repeated shutdown/terminate, in a way that really it meant Stfu.
I don't understand this. All my life ive had either bad luck or dealt with people who Immeadiately feel adversarial with me even though I behave politely, don't get aggressive or cocky, etc. Wtf have I done to deserve this. I will bet a billion dollar my main and lead instructors definitely had the best instructors, and evaluators, and yet when it's their time to inspire hope and encourage people, they do none of that. They act on their own self interests. What should have been something simple for me ended up a failure. Even though with my main instructor I did 10 touch and Gos for each session doing comms as well flawlessly. I fking hate my life sometimes because I encounter ppl like this. Who the fk treats someone so badly who they've never even spoken more than a word to before. And with my luck, if I lodge a complaint, they're NEVER going to believe me or take my side, so I have to Stfu. And if I take an audio recorder and even RECORD them in the act of cursing me out let's say, and show it to them. The managers or whatever would kick me out simply for having the audacity to be able to PROVE to them that it's not me but it's them and their instructors causing me to have a hard time. So all I can do is Stfu and try to learn from this and deal with it, while over 95% of people go through their program with great instructors and or people who don't discourage them. Ffs he never once called out traffic even though it was his fking job to do and he specifically said he would. In situations like this I'd call tower to call my base, but when I did, she was the brand new Controller with a record of MULTIPLE MISTAKES, and seemingly didn't care or think at all that we were literally on our way to hit a MOUNTAIN. Literally NONE of the things I trained for, happened on evaluation day, nearly everything was something I'd never been trained to know or expect, or trained inadequately or wrongly or not told about. There's no procedure on what we should do to avoid that mountain for example, or when we should configure (one instructor says this while another says that), and while I will fail and learn alot from this, others will, on their Eval, absolutely have calm winds, zero traffic, beautiful weather, and the evaluator will make the mood so positive, and they will pass, I failed because it's like I was setup to fail, and was placed in situations literally no one else has on their TOL Eval. It kind of is upsetting knowing my peers will get perfect conditions for their Eval and pass, despite also not yet having gone through the things, that made me fail. I feel so disheartened and discouraged. Not to mention, before my Eval, the lead was also supposed to take 1 flight with me. As far as I know everyone else had flown with him once or twice before, but me, nope. It was supposed to happen, I was told it would, but then it didn't.
Anyone else had someone like this? I mean ffs if I was lead instructor and am evaluating someone, I know they're knew and nervous. I would make it about THEM. Its their training. I'd intervene ONLY if absolutely necessary. If a mistake is made, I'd kindly let them know and tell them no worries, and to learn from it. I'd also open up to them and make them feel at ease and comfortable, and be professional, not behave in a way that basically implies the whole time for them to Stfu, but without saying Stfu. Because that's what it felt like the whole time, as if he was saying Stfu, without saying it, because he's so afraid I'd complain and he'd get fired, and then boo hoo my airline job will go away, poor me. Like ok dude get your hours and go to your precious airline, but at least inspire the same confidence and expect the same training and respect that you most definitely also got, and I know he did because selfish people like this usually complain the second they don't get every single thing they want and need, but just help me make it also.
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