I happen to think this is a good idea with the FAA coming in line with the way everyone else does it.
I suspect it is influenced by the British, who are the world's experts in lining up and waiting. "Queuing up" is virtually the national pastime.
I don't know who chose the words or why but those are the ones in place in most other countries.
Interesting. I can't recall ever seeing anyone do this but maybe I haven't been paying attention. You would need quite an angle to be able to see someone on final, wouldn't you?
Hair-splitting with the second post!
Other than annoying the controllers, what is that supposed to accomplish? Do you also acknowledge Class B clearances by saying "cleared into the TCA," or request transit of Class D by asking to "transit your Airport Traffic Area"?
Actually, I can see one reason to acknowledge with the old terminology at first (as in, during the first week or so) as it lets ATC know that you understand that the two phrases have the same meaning and aren't just parroting back what they said and aren't about to do something totally off the wall. That's not to say I'll do it though. Meek compliant mouse that I am (usually), I'll probably just repeat "line up and wait, 8JT".
The point was not to invent a new phrase, it was to become consistent with the rest of the world.
They do mention the runway in the clearance just like they did before. Instead of something like, "Runway 34 taxi into position and hold," it's "Runway 34 line up and wait". The first time I heard it, which was either in Canada or Mexico, it sounded a little strange but I knew it was coming and what it meant. People will get used to it. We are higher mammals. We can adapt.
Russia and China use meters. During my very small but very recent experience in Russia we had to use meters, hectopascals and QFE, all concepts which were strange to me. I'm pretty sure the Europeans also use hectopascals because when I get in the sim after a European crew the altimeter is set to hectopascals.Then I guess they should have assigned the US's attempted move in the 70s to the metric system to the FAA
Then I guess they should have assigned the US's attempted move in the 70s to the metric system to the FAA
Exception noted...
You said it, not me.
While I agree on the last (and feel the same about Positive Control Airspace and Terminal Control Areas, too), I've gotten over the first. It is what it is, and our march toward international standardization continues at the speed of governmental bureaucracy.
The counterargument to that is that if you don't know what it means, the regs require you to obtain clarification, not just parrot back and guess. OTOH, if you read back something other than what the controller says, you've created a difference between what was read and what was read back, and a controller might find that situation disturbing. After all, one reason for the change was to eliminate the documented misinterpretations of "taxi into position and hold" versus "hold short."
That makes you professional in your demeanor, not a mouse.
I think the biggest reason why we haven't gone metric for US aviation is that it would require replacement of every altimeter in the system, and development of entirely new vertical separation standards.
A hex on you.
Primacy vs Exercise -- eventually, Exercise wins.
I agree, but some people only make it harder for themselves when they don't accept the change to begin with. What is the point of raising your blood pressure every time you hear the dreaded phrase after September 30?
Yes to both of those observations.
Ok, explain to me just why you, and the collective you, have an issue with "Line up and Wait". Is it just because it is different than what you are used to? Is this any different from when we changed the way we do weather reports and forecasts?
That would be base 6, wouldn't it?
Technically, base 16 is "hexadecimal," but most folks abbreviate it verbally as "hex."