COVID-19: The silver lining

Salty said:
In one case, someone else was actually doing the work for them after hours as well
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I am quite sure there is more to it than this, but pragmatically, if the work is getting done, it seems like they're just "subcontracting".
 
Zeldman said:
I am working on a business deal, the biggest of my life, that will ensure my wife lives comfortably for the rest of her life, and this panic/scare may cost me that. Unbelievable.
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I hope you only have to postpone it, at the worst. I think that when we bounce back, and we will, the bounce will be dramatic.

fly to the scene of the incident, or be recovered at the scene of the tragedy
 
RussR said:
I am quite sure there is more to it than this, but pragmatically, if the work is getting done, it seems like they're just "subcontracting".
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That doesn’t cut it when they are supposed to be at work following the agile process.
 
Yeah, but take this with a grain of salt. This is reporting discovered cases, not new infections. There have been cases all along we just didn't know it. When they say "we've gone from 100 to 1000 in a week", it doesn't mean we're on a rocket trajectory.

Because we just got reliable testing kits, testing is no discovering cases that have probably been there all along.

Meanwhile, I read where there's a vaccine going to clinical trials. Is it just me or does anyone else think we ought to really fast track the vaccines through trials.

wilkersk said:
This is the US trend line based on W.H.O. daily sitreps. I hope the trend does flatten out. It looks kinda scary as of today. I'm still hoping though...

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CharlieD3 said:
I hope you only have to postpone it, at the worst. I think that when we bounce back, and we will, the bounce will be dramatic.
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I am counting on that.

That has also been the topic of discussion for the last two days. While he didn't say it directly, the banker did hint around that interest rates ''may change a little'' and ''maybe we should wait''.
 
Juliet Hotel said:
Blaming the media for scaring people is like blaming McDonalds for obesity
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I don't totally disagree, however the media has a responsibility to report accurate, factual, and sound advice. McDonald's has no real responsibility to its audience, the media does. If I hired a trainer and joined the gym and he gave me all sorts of fake advice based on what I wanted to hear and I ended up fat I'd be blaming the trainer for that also

Most people are not health experts, and are generally, I'm sorry, but "not that smart" - they turn to the news to get world news. When things go south there's a responsibility to not misinform people and cause mass hysterics
 
AlleyCat67 said:
so that the health care system isn't overwhelmed all at once
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Was it in NYT? I read something similar

Extending this out over months and continuing the economic damage is horrible. Without any real cure, outside of people with complications, I'd be inclined to think that most people who get it will be just riding it out at home? No?
 
Zeldman said:
I am counting on that.

That has also been the topic of discussion for the last two days. While he didn't say it directly, the banker did hint around that interest rates ''may change a little'' and ''maybe we should wait''.
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I certainly hope things work out well for you. The hardest thing to do is waiting when you have big plans. So many things you would like to do, start things in motion, staying active and earning a good living for your family and you are put on hold.

Take the time to review your plan/schedule, get your ducks in a row and do it again. Prayers for your family at succeeding in your new venture.
 
Zeldman said:
I am counting on that.

That has also been the topic of discussion for the last two days. While he didn't say it directly, the banker did hint around that interest rates ''may change a little'' and ''maybe we should wait''.
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I'm hoping it does too - obviously my future is pretty heavily tied to how long this thing goes on. I've been on offense for so long in this industry I've forgotten how fast it can turn around and punch you in the face. Time to play a little defense now.

Good luck man! Hopefully it turns out to be a relatively minor hiccup for you.
 
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Zeldman said:
I am working on a business deal, the biggest of my life, that will ensure my wife lives comfortably for the rest of her life, and this panic/scare may cost me that. Unbelievable.
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Has your air ambulance business been affected by any of this?
 
Juliet Hotel said:
The media gives people what they want. Nothing more, nothing less. There are sources of information available for any who want facts without sensationalism. Blaming the media for scaring people is like blaming McDonalds for obesity.
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The fact is the MSM has an agenda. I’ll let you figure out WHAT that is!
 
Tantalum said:
I don't totally disagree, however the media has a responsibility to report accurate, factual, and sound advice.
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Very true. But I think we need to define what counts as media.

Quite a bit of the programming on the major news channels is not news. Its really more news-tainment. The news is '15 people were injured in a fire at a prosthetic forehead factory today.' News-tainment is 'We're here with one of the foremost experts on prosthetic forehead manufacturing practices and he's going to tell us how he could have prevented that fire if that company had just listened to his recommendations.' That's not news, that's news-tainment masquerading as news and it tends to get lumped in with actual news any time the 'media' is discussed. I don't think that's fair.
 
At my volunteer "job" today we were putting together our COVID panic plan and I was asked what my plan was and it is very simple.

I'm not going to get it.

I also stay clean and healthy. I avoid people I don't know and those that I do associate with are smart enough to stay home when sick.
 
cgrab said:
At my volunteer "job" today we were putting together our COVID panic plan and I was asked what my plan was and it is very simple.

I'm not going to get it.

I also stay clean and healthy. I avoid people I don't know and those that I do associate with are smart enough to stay home when sick.
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Is it like chicken pox in that you can only get it once? If so, I'd like to get it as soon as possible before I become old and vulnerable.
 
asicer said:
Is it like chicken pox in that you can only get it once? If so, I'd like to get it as soon as possible before I become old and vulnerable.
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Nope..evidence is that you can possibly get it again.
 
Zeldman said:
I am counting on that.

That has also been the topic of discussion for the last two days. While he didn't say it directly, the banker did hint around that interest rates ''may change a little'' and ''maybe we should wait''.
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Around 10% of our working population is in hospitality/travel and another 10% in retail. These segments will get decimated; a fair number of small companies will not survive. As such, this will impede any bounce back.
Then consider the how much of the population works hourly and is paycheck to paycheck. They will not be saving money, they will be going deeper into debt. This will hinder any bounce back.
Next, how many in the gig economy will also fall behind? Same rules apply...

Tim
 
Caramon13 said:
Nope..evidence is that you can possibly get it again.
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If that’s the case, then a vaccine wouldn’t work, would it? I’m going on the assumption that all vaccines work by making the body recognize that particular intruder and develop a defense against it.
 
There's been a handful of cases in China and s Korea where patients tested negative and released from quarantine, and later tested positive. It is believed to be testing error.
 
Back to the topic of "silver lining"...

...some people are taking being quarantined to the extreme.

Take Harvey Weinstein for example. thank gawd.
 
Half Fast said:
Local grocery shelves are nearly empty.

Chill, people.
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no kidding...the soup aisle this morning was completely empty, as was the rice aisle, and the cold & flu medicine aisle. People are idiots. But before self-righteous Boomers here start disparaging subsequent generations for being the idiots...it's not a new thing...Johnny Carson helped to cause a TP shortage in 1973 with a Tonight Show joke. Those generations you so enjoy disparaging weren't even born yet. Who were the idiots then?
 
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Johnny Carson must be laughing his skeletal *** off right now.

Back in the gasoline shortage-era of the '70s, he made a joke about that toilet paper was going to be next. People took him seriously, and TP was in short supply for a while.
 
Caramon13 said:
US added almost 300 more cases today, so we're up over 1200 now. And that's the ones that have been CONFIRMED. Some news outlets are reporting that certain states might have well over 100,000 people by THEMSELVES that are infected and just don't know it. WHO can't possibly keep track of all of these cases individually anymore.
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No one so ****it. Just practice good hygiene and take reasonable precautions locally to protect high risk groups. The response is lame. We are making it worse
 
Tarheelpilot said:
The response is lame.
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That's the understatement of the decade. It's been totally mangled. There are "third world" countries doing a far better job than us. If only we had a group of people at the federal level responsible for planning for, reacting to and managing pandemics...

...oh, wait...
 
Half Fast said:
Local grocery shelves are nearly empty.

Chill, people.
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City people must be less worried. Safeway shelves about 2/3 stocked as of an hour ago. Plenty of food if you are not fussy about the brand. I didn't bother to look for either TP or hand sanitizer.
 
BTW...I saw a car today locally that had a huge surgeon's mask covering the entire grill and headlights. Tried to snap a quick photo but missed it...it was going the opposite direction.

hilarious.
 
Everskyward said:
City people must be less worried. Safeway shelves about 2/3 stocked as of an hour ago. Plenty of food if you are not fussy about the brand. I didn't bother to look for either TP or hand sanitizer.
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yes, living downtown you wouldn't really know anything was different, the bars, restaurants, clubs are fully packed, at least they were last night

however if you head out to the suburbs, which is where I went for a Ralphs run yesterday, the shelves were totally empty.. and almost everybody was wearing a mask
 
Everskyward said:
City people must be less worried. Safeway shelves about 2/3 stocked as of an hour ago. Plenty of food if you are not fussy about the brand. I didn't bother to look for either TP or hand sanitizer.
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I was in my small town grocery store 2 days ago and they had plenty of everything except the TP and disinfectants. Most people seem to be going about their usual business.
 
What I was completely amazed at here is that the rice in the "big" walmart was completely sold out. I'm talking all shelves for at least 20' on one side of an aisle. I can only assume that all the local honyocks believe that they will pass out when they get the virus and drop their iPhones in the water.:)
 
cowman said:
I was in my small town grocery store 2 days ago and they had plenty of everything except the TP and disinfectants. Most people seem to be going about their usual business.
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Maybe it's the big box stores like Costco and Walmart that are sold out more than the smaller grocery stores in both cities and small towns.
 
Everskyward said:
Maybe it's the big box stores like Costco and Walmart that are sold out more than the smaller grocery stores in both cities and small towns.
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That's my experience here. Walmart and Target shelves are empty. Price Cutter, HyVee, etc. still had toilet paper yesterday. I bought some...BECAUSE I NEEDED IT! And I still just bought a package of 12 rolls, that's a freakin' three month supply for me...at least. Some dikhead was walking out of HyVee yesterday with a shopping cart overflowing with it. They didn't have a "Limit 2" like all the other stores did.
 
Everskyward said:
Maybe it's the big box stores like Costco and Walmart that are sold out more than the smaller grocery stores in both cities and small towns.
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A couple days ago in a suburban Meijer (mostly Michigan chain kinda like Wallmart but not as dingy), noodles were gone, paper towel was purd near gone, spaghetti sauce was decimated, NO ground beef, the guy in front of me in the ( R E A L L Y L O N G ) line at the checkout had 20 gallons of water... Seemed to be plenty of toilet paper though.
Yesterday at Home Depot - not one roll of paper towel.
 
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