ATITPPA origin finally discovered?

Or maybe this:

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ATITPPAMS

Any Traffic In The Pattern Please Acknowledge My Superiority
 
Salty said:
ATITPPAMS

Any Traffic In The Pattern Please Acknowledge My Superiority
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Any Traffic in the Area Please Recognize my Failure to Maintain Situational Awareness is too long to say, even for the poorly prepared.
 
Tools said:
Of course it’s dumb. I always ask those NOT on the frequency to respond, in the interest of thoroughness.

Well, what i mean is I would ask that if I had a radio.
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The old "raise your hand if you are absent" deal.
 
Years ago I used to annoy a friend in the tower at College Station....''Tower, Cessna 12345 at 1 6 request emergency takeoff...''

His reply was usually..... ''Whatever, Cessna 12345 cleared for takeoff...''
 
luvflyin said:
Was it a Unicom?
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I don't know, but it probably is related to HIWASS, Flight Service Station, LORAN, something called "Radio", and ADF.

And talking to someone on one frequency and receiving on another.
 
WDD said:
I don't know, but it probably is related to HIWASS, Flight Service Station, LORAN, something called "Radio", and ADF.

And talking to someone on one frequency and receiving on another.
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I had asked Salty that in reply to saying he had got advisories from an FBO.
 
luvflyin said:
I had asked Salty that in reply to saying he had got advisories from an FBO.
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I honestly don’t know how to tell the difference. Sectional markings and AF/D look the same as every other non-towed airport I've ever landed at.
 
Salty said:
I honestly don’t know how to tell the difference.
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So far, every non-towered airport I've visited used the same frequency for CTAF and Unicom, so I'm not sure it matters. Towered airports will have a separate Unicom frequency of course, but in that situation I'm talking to the tower, not trying to get runway info from Unicom.
 
Half Fast said:
So far, every non-towered airport I've visited used the same frequency for CTAF and Unicom, so I'm not sure it matters. Towered airports will have a separate Unicom frequency of course, but in that situation I'm talking to the tower, not trying to get runway info from Unicom.
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I was talking on the CTAF/Unicom Frequency. So I don't really understand how to answer @luvflyin's question.
 
I really didn’t think Unicom was a thing anymore.
 
Salty said:
I was talking on the CTAF/Unicom Frequency. So I don't really understand how to answer @luvflyin's question.
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CTAF and Unicom are separate things, but often Unicom uses the CTAF at uncontrolled airports. If it was “CTAF/Unicom” in the A/FD, the answer would be “yes”.
 
MauleSkinner said:
CTAF and Unicom are separate things, but often Unicom uses the CTAF at uncontrolled airports. If it was “CTAF/Unicom” in the A/FD, the answer would be “yes”.
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Every non towered airport I spot checked says the same thing.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Try one where the CTAF is 122.9.
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Try what? I do see a 122.9 and it does not have Unicom in the af/d, but I don’t see how that matters, when there are thousands that do, and don’t actually have a Unicom.
 
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Salty said:
Try what? I do see a 122.9 and it does not have Unicom in the af/d, but I don’t see how that matters, when there are thousands that do, and don’t actually have a Unicom.
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Do you have any clue what Unicom is?
 
MauleSkinner said:
Do you have any clue what Unicom is?
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Yes, but as others have also mentioned, it’s pretty much a non thing at most airports, even those that say ctaf/Unicom. and only one has ever OFFERED services without request.
 
Salty said:
Yes, but as others have also mentioned, it’s pretty much a non thing at most airports, even those that say ctaf/Unicom. and only one has ever OFFERED services without request.
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So why are you struggling to answer whether the one airport advisory was provided by Unicom?
 
MauleSkinner said:
So why are you struggling to answer whether the one airport advisory was provided by Unicom?
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I didn’t know I was. Perhaps I misunderstood the question.

How would I know if it was Unicom or aunt sally with a handheld?
 
Obviously some of us are missing something others of us apparently know, but aren’t willing to explain.
 
Salty said:
I actually have gotten an advisory from an FBO in the last couple years, upon my initial call, they responded with traffic and weather.
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Salty said:
I didn’t know I was. Perhaps I misunderstood the question.

How would I know if it was Unicom or aunt sally with a handheld?
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Pick a story and stick with it, for starters.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Pick a story and stick with it, for starters.
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I have no idea why you think I changed stories. I guess there’s a subtlety there I’m not seeing, and you’re not pointing out.
 
I still have no idea what difference that makes since I land at all sorts of airports with ctaf/Unicom that have no staff of any kind or even a radio to monitor traffic.
 
Salty said:
I still have no idea what difference that makes since I land at all sorts of airports with ctaf/Unicom that have no staff of any kind or even a radio to monitor traffic.
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Well, Unicom is supposed to mean that someone at the airport is licensed to operate a ground station on the frequency. Whether there is a working radio or someone willing to use it is a completely different matter. With automated wx at most airports it doesn’t matter as much as it once did.

And frankly, I’d rather not have someone trying to reserve a rental car or order a pizza on Unicom when others are in the pattern and using it as a CTAF.
 
My airport says Unicom and there is no radio station no weather station, nothing.
 
Half Fast said:
Beats me. Maybe someone has a ground station license?
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Well, this is the source of my confusion. From my vantage Unicom means nothing.
 
Salty said:
Well, this is the source of my confusion. From my vantage Unicom means nothing.
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To me it means when I land I might be able to call the FBO to ask where to park or which way to the gas pumps, and maybe get an answer. But that’s about it.
 
Half Fast said:
To me it means when I land I might be able to call the FBO to ask where to park or which way to the gas pumps, and maybe get an answer. But that’s about it.
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LOL, yeah, that's about right.
 
Salty said:
LOL, yeah, that's about right.
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For folks living at your airport, it might legalize you when you’re on the ground and using your handheld to talk to someone on CTAF. Makes me wonder whether there’s a license and what it says.
 
Unicom and Multicom are both CTAFs, as are tower frequencies when the tower is inop. I think Multicom is always 122.9 and used when there is no Unicom on that airfield. Personally, I think that "CTAF" covers it all, even though it's an extra syllable . . . :rolleyes:
 
WDD said:
A spirited discussion about something that no longer (for all practical purposes) exists....... :)
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Well, I think the discussion was whether or not they exist. My assertion is, because I can’t see any proof of existence even when it’s specified, then they don’t exist, but others seem to disagree.
 
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