Administrative “law” strikes seaplane pilot

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Ol’ boys at the FAA are at it again, bending what the regs actually say, toss in a dash of ADSB abuse, and you get a nice bowl of this stew

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media...06/river-landing-leads-to-proposed-suspension


The case adds to AOPA's concerns about how the FAA interprets and enforces FAR 91.119—the central issue in the Palmer case was whether an inspection pass is permissible if the aircraft does not actually land.



If the seaplane pilot's suspension is ultimately upheld by an administrative law judge and the NTSB, as it was in Palmer's case, it could effectively render illegal virtually any seaplane operation on a river outside of remote areas. AOPA is also concerned about potential misinterpretation or misuse of ADS-B data by FAA investigators.


The pilot in question is also an FAA employee and asked AOPA to withhold his name pending further proceedings based on ongoing concern about adverse employment consequences.

As with the Palmer case, the seaplane pilot has appealed his proposed suspension. Similarly to Palmer, the Connecticut River pilot has not disputed that his float-equipped Taylorcraft was flown over the river on May 28, conducting multiple takeoffs and landings with an instructor, at locations including on a stretch of the river next to Northampton Airport. The runway at Northampton is about 1,800 feet away from the Calvin Coolidge Bridge near Hadley, Massachusetts, and 4 nautical miles north of a charted seaplane base on the river.

There are no charted or otherwise published restrictions on seaplane operations in that area. Yet the FAA, in a December 11 proposed suspension order, accused the pilot of operating "at an altitude of less than 500 feet over the Calvin Coolidge Bridge," and determined violations of FAR 91.119(a) and 91.119(c), as well as 91.13(a), the general prohibition against "careless or reckless" operation.

The FAA does not cite any specific evidence of the violation in the suspension order, or explain how it came to the conclusion that the operations at an altitude of less than 500 feet over the bridge and "several houses in the vicinity of the Connecticut River" constitute a violation of the cited regulations.

"You thereby, when not necessary for takeoff or landing, operated …. over open water or sparsely populated areas, closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure," the FAA asserted, ignoring the fact that the operations in question did, in fact, begin or end with multiple takeoffs and landings on the river, each consistent with longstanding local practice of using this stretch of river for the purpose.

The same seven words—"except when necessary for takeoff or landing"—formed the basis of Palmer's ultimately unsuccessful attempt to overturn his own certificate suspension that was imposed after he flew low over private property in Reno, Nevada, to assess whether or not to land in a friend's backyard. Palmer's suspension was upheld by an NTSB administrative law judge, the full board, and later by federal courts. AOPA filed a brief in Palmer's appeal before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in 2023, arguing on behalf of various aviation groups that the NTSB and FAA have not consistently followed federal law—specifically, the Pilot's Bill of Rights—when adjudicating appeals of FAA enforcement actions.

One important difference between Palmer's case and the present case of the seaplane pilot is that Palmer did not actually land, or take off from, the private property in question. The D.C. Circuit court concurred with the NTSB administrative law judge's determination in Palmer's case:

"As the Board explained, the ALJ did not broadly hold that low flights are never necessary for off-airport landings but rather found based on the evidence that Palmer did not prove his defense that this particular low flight was necessary for landing," the court wrote in its June 4 decision. "The Board reviewed the decision and concluded that the ALJ reasonably found that the low inspection pass was not necessary under these circumstances because Palmer had safer alternatives to inspect the landing site. We agree."

In the present case, AOPA looks forward to an opportunity to examine the evidence that the FAA used to base its conclusion that specific flights on May 28 violated regulations, evidence that the FAA should be required to produce as the appeal unfolds.

"This has potential to be a groundbreaking case of first impression in multiple ways, including off-airport operations and agency use of ADS-B data," said AOPA General Counsel Justine Harrison. "We're watching closely."

The seaplane pilot is being represented by a former FAA enforcement attorney who is now an AOPA Pilot Protection Services panel attorney, and who filed an appeal of the FAA's proposed suspension order that will be heard by an NTSB administrative law judge.

As the case proceeds, AOPA expects to learn what role ADS-B data played in the FAA investigation. Section 829 of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 prohibits the FAA from using ADS-B data transmitted by aircraft as the sole basis to initiate an investigation, excluding criminal investigations, though it allows the FAA to use ADS-B data against a pilot "if such investigation was initiated as a result of a report or complaint submitted to the Administrator."

It is not clear from the December 11 suspension order what precipitated the investigation in the Connecticut River case. Nor is it clear whether the FAA conducted a rigorous analysis of the ADS-B data that would likely be the basis of any evidence provided by the agency that the aircraft in question operated within 500 feet of the Calvin Coolidge Bridge.

It is possible that the raw ADS-B data available to the FAA was misleading, or incomplete. It is common for aircraft operating at Northampton Airport not to register on ADS-B traffic displays at low altitude, where ADS-B Out signals may be blocked by terrain. ADS-B transmissions from an aircraft landing on the river may not have been picked up by the network, which could mean that the takeoffs and landings that made approaching within 500 feet of structures or vessels necessary were not readily visible to the FAA.

While ADS-B location information (latitude and longitude) is generally accurate and precise, altitude data can be subject to significant error until it is carefully analyzed. ADS-B data available publicly through websites including FlightAware and ADS-B Exchange displays altitude information that requires correction of errors that can amount to hundreds of feet to accurately determine the height of an aircraft above the ground, or above mean sea level, or above structures.”



And that’s why I don’t have a transponder
 
I noticed a striking lack of factual detail in the AOPA report. My problem is that I can see other parallels to Palmer. I learned to fly at 7B2 so I know the area. So is this, “OMG! They’re taking away my ability to go anywhere!” Or is it “with all thoce potential takeoff and landing areas, you chose to buzz the one bridge for miles”? Is this, like Palmer, going to have a significant legal issue - ADS-B use here; proper application of rules of civil procedure there - buried in a set of bad facts and ignored?

Sorry, color me cynical about he choice of cases AOPA has been getting involved in over the past several years. “Here we go again” was my first thought when I read the article.

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I'm curious just how close to the bridge was he to get on the FAA's radar.

Looking at that satellite view, what is the average height over the bridge of an aircraft turning base to final to Northampton airport? I would guess it would be less than 500 feet?
 
I'm curious just how close to the bridge was he to get on the FAA's radar.

Looking at that satellite view, what is the average height over the bridge of an aircraft turning base to final to Northampton airport? I would guess it would be less than 500 feet?
Pretty close. The west terminus of the bridge is only about 1/3 mile final to runway 14.
 
Sorry, color me cynical about he choices of cases AOPA has been getting involved in the past several years. “Here we go again” was my first thought when I read the article.
Exactly. Meanwhile they're deafeningly quiet on the use of ADSB to collect airport fees.
 
Couple of possibilities here. The fact that it was an FAA employee (no word about his or her role in the FAA) is a complicating factor (Martha Lunken was a former FAA employee, too). And, we all know that some seaplane pilots fly low skimming the water for miles before touching down (or not) just because they can. So this may be a case of FAA overreach based on some Karen's complaint about a pilot who was operating properly, or it may be the FAA slapping a pilot who was playing down low and trying to get away with it by saying, "it's legal because I was landing."

Farther down the Connecticut River there's a bridge a similar distance from the runway at Goodspeed Airport (42B), which also has a seaplane ramp on the river.

Cases like this make me glad that my plane has no transponder or ADSB. :)
 
“The pilot in question is also an FAA employee”

I suspect there’s a “rest of the story”

Interesting: if one wants to hunt around and find individual reasons to continually bash the FAA, they can do so. But try that with other topics with PLENTY of fodder these days and the thread gets locked and someone probably gets suspended.

The FAA is far from perfect. They’re also not evil, inept, or anything else some agendas try to push. And is the ranting constructive (as in, it will lead to improved performance) or is it promoting an agenda?

Let’s call it what it is: FAA-bashing is political.
 
I was curious as the what the height of the bridge is, and does that mean a land pilot who does a go around at 7B2 is also subject to the same enforcement action?
 
I'm curious just how close to the bridge was he to get on the FAA's radar.

Looking at that satellite view, what is the average height over the bridge of an aircraft turning base to final to Northampton airport? I would guess it would be less than 500 feet?
Probably true. And if they’re landing 14, the river and bridge look to be in the pattern and the bridge is/is close to base. So if he was goofing around on the river south of the bridge he’d be right below pattern traffic, it looks like to me. Even if north of it, he’d be beak-to-beak with pattern traffic if heading southeast. So - he’s either above 500 feet and goofing around in the pattern or he’s below 500 feet and breaks the regs for being too close. Doesn’t take ADS-B data to start a review of that - just some eyewitnesses.

This could well have been other pilots complaining about him doing that and if he was, I’d hope we’d all agree that would warrant some investigation.

There’s more to the story than “I was on my way to choir practice when…”.
 
Whoever wrote that article at AOPA is ignorant of law. ALJ decisions are not precedent. This decision won't change anything one way or the other. The FAA still has authority to (mis)interpret their regulations unless this goes to federal court (or perhaps with NTSB review).
 
Wondering if there was animosity between the FAA employees and the FAA pilot . Should be interesting to see what the NTSB says,on the review.
 
I was curious as the what the height of the bridge is, and does that mean a land pilot who does a go around at 7B2 is also subject to the same enforcement action?
I doubt it. We don't have all the facts and I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I think there is a teeny weenie difference between runway operations at an airport and choosing to fly close to the only bridge for 5 miles (straight line) on a good-sized river.
 
Whoever wrote that article at AOPA is ignorant of law. ALJ decisions are not precedent. This decision won't change anything one way or the other. The FAA still has authority to (mis)interpret their regulations unless this goes to federal court (or perhaps with NTSB review).

The process is the punishment

The NTSB is 90% just going to side with the FAA, so real world you need the money and grit to not only fight it to the nearly pointless NTSB, but the federal courts last that before you might see a glimpse of “justice”

I doubt it. We don't have all the facts and I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I think there is a teeny weenie difference between runway operations at an airport and choosing to fly close to the only bridge for 5 miles (straight line) on a good-sized river.

I don’t

Take off and landing operations
 
“The pilot in question is also an FAA employee”

I suspect there’s a “rest of the story”

Interesting: if one wants to hunt around and find individual reasons to continually bash the FAA, they can do so. But try that with other topics with PLENTY of fodder these days and the thread gets locked and someone probably gets suspended.

The FAA is far from perfect. They’re also not evil, inept, or anything else some agendas try to push. And is the ranting constructive (as in, it will lead to improved performance) or is it promoting an agenda?

Let’s call it what it is: FAA-bashing is political.

B.S. the FAA as a whole may not be evil or vindictive, but a particular GADO or FSDO or Inspector may be. I was on the receiving end of one once. And it isn't at all political. No mention of parties, or political ideas have been mentioned.
 
1. There is no dispute the seaplane could legally land on the River as an off airport landing site.
2. There is no sea plane base or other services for sea planes at that location that would make that site required or more favorable.
3. The flight was a training flight.
4. The landing and take off at the particular location on the River was not necessary. He could have chosen another location without the bridge and none of this would have been a factor.

Is the FAA going after pilots making off airport landings who are exercising poor ADM? Yes.
 
1. There is no dispute the seaplane could legally land on the River as an off airport landing site.
2. There is no sea plane base or other services for sea planes at that location that would make that site required or more favorable.
3. The flight was a training flight.
4. The landing and take off at the particular location on the River was not necessary. He could have chosen another location without the bridge and none of this would have been a factor.

Is the FAA going after pilots making off airport landings who are exercising poor ADM? Yes.

So a seaplane that lands on the water where there is not a charted seaplane base is exercising poor ADM?

Tell me more
 
The process is the punishment

The NTSB is 90% just going to side with the FAA, so real world you need the money and grit to not only fight it to the nearly pointless NTSB, but the federal courts last that before you might see a glimpse of “justice”
Agreed. My comment was that the article makes it sound like the ALJ is going to set some sport of policy going forward and that's just not the case. While the NTSB is often a rubber stamp, it doesn't have the constraints that even the Federal judiciary has. The Administrative Procedures Act (even post-Chevron) still gives the agency itself some leeway to interpreting their own ill-crafted regulations.

Once the federal courts decide (or to a lesser extent NTSB), then you have a precedent that can override the FAA's own assertion of what the "law" is.
 
Agreed. My comment was that the article makes it sound like the ALJ is going to set some sport of policy going forward and that's just not the case. While the NTSB is often a rubber stamp, it doesn't have the constraints that even the Federal judiciary has. The Administrative Procedures Act (even post-Chevron) still gives the agency itself some leeway to interpreting their own ill-crafted regulations.

Once the federal courts decide (or to a lesser extent NTSB), then you have a precedent that can override the FAA's own assertion of what the "law" is.
But with Chevron, at least there's a legal path to a jurisdiction other than the agency's ALJ. That decision by the Supreme Court allows one to escape the bureaucracy and receive adjudication in a plainly more neutral court.
 
But with Chevron, at least there's a legal path to a jurisdiction other than the agency's ALJ. That decision by the Supreme Court allows one to escape the bureaucracy and receive adjudication in a plainly more neutral court.
Um, no. That's not what Loper Bright (the case that invalidated Chevron) does. It just says that the federal courts are not beholden to the agency's interpretations but must draw their own conclusions. This is a significant (and correct) change. It doesn't however change the path the regulation takes through the process.
 
The landing and take off at the particular location on the River was not necessary. He could have chosen another location without the bridge and none of this would have been a factor.
Maybe he specifically wanted to land next to the airport for some reason. Or for no reason, doesn't matter.

However, although reports say that he landed on the river, I haven't heard just where he landed, which would affect whether flying low over the bridge was "necessary for takeoff or landing".
 
In America, the inquiry should end there.
And it was legal for a helicopter to fly below the landing traffic along the Potomac.

As I noted earlier it appears the area in question is directly below the pattern for 14. I think an inquiry is entirely appropriate. I also think passing judgment - one way or the other - without ALL the facts is ill advised.

I’ll stick with my “rest of the story” suspicion.
 
I used to live about 2 miles from that bridge. Agree with @midlifeflyer, there's a ton of river to work with that's only surrounded by farmland. The bridge is the main route between Northampton and Amherst. Heavy traffic all the time. I have no opinion on the legal side of things, but if his landing or takeoff was "buzzing" the bridge, pilot is just asking for it.
 
Um, no. That's not what Loper Bright (the case that invalidated Chevron) does. It just says that the federal courts are not beholden to the agency's interpretations but must draw their own conclusions. This is a significant (and correct) change. It doesn't however change the path the regulation takes through the process.
I said it was a path through the bureaucracy, not a wholesale change, which agrees with your post.
 
Why? You seem to think you know all the facts and have made up your mind.

Well now, I reckon I’m just a simple American, same as any other. As Americans, it’s our duty to start with the assumption that our government may be in the wrong, ‘til they can prove otherwise. If you've got a bit of free time, I suggest you give those Federalist Papers a look. They’ve got some mighty fine insight on the matter.
 
You think that’s what this is?
Yes. I think it was something the FAA considered unsafe enough to warrant a 120-day suspension, from what little we know at the moment.

I think we have only the tiniest shreds of only one side of the story - in a magazine biased towards the pilots (who pay for the org’s existence).

I’ve dealt with the FAA in a variety of situations and have even had to call a number once or twice. While one guy at the FSDO was a bit anal about my hair color on my Repairman’s Certificate for my experimental (and he was right: it’s more gray than I wanted to acknowledge), I’ve never had anything but positive, educational experiences. And when I see stories on here about “adverse” encounters, there sure seem to be some details left out of the first telling.

In this case, the agenda is that the FAA cannot ever be trusted and ADS-B will be used to bust people. There is ZERO evidence of either of those in the info you presented.

It seems very plausible this guy was doing splash-and-dashes under the active pattern for 14, possibly even without a radio, and pilots complained. It’s very plausible a traffic cam on the bridge caught him. It’s very plausible the ADS-B data was used to corroborate other info from other sources - not used as the de novo source of a violation.

To jump to a conclusion as the lead-in statement to tbe OP that “Ol’ boys at the FAA are at it again, bending what the regs actually say, toss in a dash of ADSB abuse, and you get a nice bowl of this stew” is pushing an agenda from the first words - with no actual facts to back that up.

Add: it’s equally “reasonable” to assume people flying without transponders are running Fentanyl.
 
Yes. I think it was something the FAA considered unsafe enough to warrant a 120-day suspension, from what little we know at the moment.

I think we have only the tiniest shreds of only one side of the story - in a magazine biased towards the pilots (who pay for the org’s existence).

I’ve dealt with the FAA in a variety of situations and have even had to call a number once or twice. While one guy at the FSDO was a bit anal about my hair color on my Repairman’s Certificate for my experimental (and he was right: it’s more gray than I wanted to acknowledge), I’ve never had anything but positive, educational experiences. And when I see stories on here about “adverse” encounters, there sure seem to be some details left out of the first telling.

In this case, the agenda is that the FAA cannot ever be trusted and ADS-B will be used to bust people. There is ZERO evidence of either of those in the info you presented.

It seems very plausible this guy was doing splash-and-dashes under the active pattern for 14, possibly even without a radio, and pilots complained. It’s very plausible a traffic cam on the bridge caught him. It’s very plausible the ADS-B data was used to corroborate other info from other sources - not used as the de novo source of a violation.

To jump to a conclusion as the lead-in statement to tbe OP that “Ol’ boys at the FAA are at it again, bending what the regs actually say, toss in a dash of ADSB abuse, and you get a nice bowl of this stew” is pushing an agenda from the first words - with no actual facts to back that up.

Add: it’s equally “reasonable” to assume people flying without transponders are running Fentanyl.

Well, I'll tell ya, the Trent Palmer case and others show plain as day that they ain't followin' their own rules about ADS-B.

Now, I work in this world, and while there are plenty of good folks over at the FAA, we’d be fools to think they're always right.

From what I see, that there spot looks like a perfectly good place to operate a seaplane, no doubt about it.

Remember in America if it’s not written as illegal, it’s legal, and the government is wrong until they prove their case
 
Well, I'll tell ya, the Trent Palmer case and others show plain as day that they ain't followin' their own rules about ADS-B.

Now, I work in this world, and while there are plenty of good folks over at the FAA, we’d be fools to think they're always right.

From what I see, that there spot looks like a perfectly good place to operate a seaplane, no doubt about it.

Remember in America if it’s not written as illegal, it’s legal, and the government is wrong until they prove their case
Well, I tell ya, a smart foreign adversary would say similar things on chats like this, to foment dissention. If they were trolling.
 
Well, I tell ya, a smart foreign adversary would say similar things on chats like this, to foment dissention. If they were trolling.

Now, let me tell y'all somethin' just 'cause someone don't see eye to eye with you, don’t mean they’re out to stir trouble. We ain't gotta label every difference of opinion as an attack. Sometimes, folks just think different.

Now, when someone says 'everyone's innocent 'til proven guilty, that's somethin' you don't hear too often from nations that ain't too friendly with us. But it sure is a core belief for us good folks here in America.
 
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Can you offer ANY indication WHATSOEVER that this FAA employee pilot was not presumed innocent until proven guilty? Didn’t think so…
 
Can you offer ANY indication WHATSOEVER that this FAA employee pilot was not presumed innocent until proven guilty? Didn’t think so…

Yes

“There are no charted or otherwise published restrictions on seaplane operations in that area.”

“The FAA does not cite any specific evidence of the violation in the suspension order, or explain how it came to the conclusion that the operations at an altitude of less than 500 feet over the bridge and "several houses in the vicinity of the Connecticut River" constitute a violation of the cited regulations.”


Also that ain’t how the FAA works, you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.
 
Without picking sides, I do have to wonder how this pilot got on the FAAs radar so to speak. It's not like there are hundreds or thousands of FAA sky cops hiding in the bushes running radar. Something happened, or someone complained.

They say he was less than 500 feet from the bridge. Was he 499 feet, or ten feet?

I would say this case is hard to judge without any of the facts.
 
We'll see what evidence the FAA relied on, the AOPA article seems to be more speculation than fact. It seems actually almost entirely devoid of any useful facts lol.

But if this thing is what it sounds like, I kind of feel like operating needlessly close to a bridge would+should qualify as reckless behavior. And someone likely complained about him and it went from there.
And I'd rather the FAA have the latitude to conclude as much rather than having to draft new rules to explicitly forbid every conceivable moronic case of poor ADM a pilot may wish to commit. Then we take our already thick book of regs+charts and make them even longer just b/c of a few dumbas*ses who can't exercise common sense.
 
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