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Pre-takeoff checklist
Link?The final report for the Tango and Juliet crash had a short description of events that came from the go-pro footage. It was detailed enough that the report could say what happened when down to the second.
Link?The final report for the Tango and Juliet crash had a short description of events that came from the go-pro footage. It was detailed enough that the report could say what happened when down to the second.
My instrument instructor taught the opposite.
It's my opinion that you guys aren't talking about the same thing as the OP. He isn't talking about which instrument is primary. The bottom line is, if nothing else is done; adding throttle makes you go higher, and adding pitch slows you down. You may or may not gain altitude by pitching up, and you are even less likely to go faster by just adding throttle.As did I. The Instrument Flying Handbook is pretty clear on this.
Part of the initial Basic Attitude Instrument Flying block is learning which instrument is primary in each maneuver. For instance, in straight and level cruise the altimeter is primary for pitch. Simply, in a deviation you use the altimeter to tell you where to set your pitch. If you scan the altimeter and see you’re 50’ high, you pitch down slightly to return to your desired altitude using the attitude indicator, confirming with the VSI. Only once you’ve set the pitch do you think about trimming. It would be very hard to do this smoothly by just making power adjustments.
And each maneuver has its own primary instrument, and it’s all pretty logical once you get the basics. Large deviations from altitude may require both pitch and power adjustments to get squared away. And slow flight and flight in the region of reversed command is when this becomes noticable.
Anyway, lots of good info on this in the FAA Instrument Flying Handbook.
Was just looking for it myself: https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102952/pdfLink?
Here is the link of the specialist's report that include the screen shots and narrative:Was just looking for it myself
I had never heard of this woman before this accident, but have since watching several of her videos and it’s crazy how far she is behind the plane! You would think Jerry Wagner was her CFI! I feel for her family! Based on what information we have, she should never have been flying that plane without a “competent CFI“ in the right seat. she literally has videos posted that show her completely behind the plane and her CFI wasn’t too far ahead of her. So sad
According to others this isn't possible. The autopilot was not connected to the trim.Our friend 'DG' says failure to recover from autopilot trim stall & spin finally killed her. Starts at 31:45 in his latest video. Surprisingly restrained in his commentary this time.
She has a video of her shooting a practice approach with a “CFII“. It was just posted not long before her death. She‘s 900‘ below crossing minimums when ATC cancels her cle for the approach! Her CFII says something like “Oh, I guess we were a little low”. SeriouslyYet a CFI endorsed her and a DPE passed her. It would be interesting to know who her DPE was and the DPE’s background.
Did she get an endorsement for complex?Yet a CFI endorsed her and a DPE passed her. It would be interesting to know who her DPE was and the DPE’s background.
Correct, but it still needs to be trimmed manually. You can get way out of trim and have the pitch control trying to compensate. The AP has an annunciator to show out of trim issues. If you had it trimmed way down, but had alt hold set and were slow, it would dive pretty precipitously if you turned off the AP. It was pretty clear she had no idea what to do when the AP was annunciating out of trim.According to others this isn't possible. The autopilot was not connected to the trim.
I've flown with instructors I've liked, and (very few) instructors I haven't liked, but fortunately I've never flown with an instructor who was as useless as the guy in the right seat in that video!.She has a video of her shooting a practice approach with a “CFII“. It was just posted not long before her death. She‘s 900‘ below crossing minimums when ATC cancels her cle for the approach! Her CFII says something like “Oh, I guess we were a little low”. Seriously
I've flown with instructors I've liked, and (very few) instructors I haven't liked, but fortunately I've never flown with an instructor who was as useless as the guy in the right seat in that video!.
I don't recall anyone saying it was. I just watched Gryder's updateAccording to others this isn't possible. The autopilot was not connected to the trim.
With her skills, I'm surprised she survived as long as she did flying without an instructor. Don't believe she had 400 hours either.Despite my better judgement, I watched the Gryder clip. We agree on something! “She had no business being there, she should have been in a 150 and gone back to basics for the next 200 hours”
Hilarious. She could recover from a spin but not a dive? Give me a break. Can't we ban all posts about this disinformation artist?[Gryder] continues to assert that 'autopilot stall/spin' initiated the accident sequence that terminated in a steep dive. He says that would have been following some manner of spin recovery.
I was just going to say that. Thank youWith her skills, I'm surprised she survived as long as she did flying without an instructor. Don't believe she had 400 hours either.
In a few videos, this might seem true, but in many others not so much. As we all can agree, she had by no means mastered the AP. Her understanding of it was limited. But, she knew it required manual trim when the lights were flashing. Overall, just very slow application of corrections and most likely a misunderstanding of just how far out of trim it could get.It was pretty clear she had no idea what to do when the AP was annunciating out of trim.
SLB??I have, recently. As I test the waters for CSEL, I did the day XC with a new-to-me CFI who came highly recommended. Did this flight in a TAA dynon/530W 172 to kill two birds with one stone.
Most of the flight was esoteric q&a that was probably related to the Comm written. He admitted systems knowledge on the dynon was a weak point and suggested to just hand fly the route so we didn’t have to “figure out the autopilot”. Mind you, this was plane in a pt61 flight school marketed as “perfect for commercial upgrade”.
I expected the dude to be SLB, and the expectations were met. Debrief was “keep
in mind the minimum distances over populated vs unpopulated areas.”
Either I performed better than I give myself credit for, or he never noticed when I was exceeding ACS standards. We never discussed whether I was where I expected to be when I expected to be there, where my divert and what emergency landing considerations/locations were, whether wx was not as planned, or anything else I expected would be topics of conversation.
Maybe my expectations were too high.
SLB??
Not connected to the trim, but isn't there a servo for the elevators? It can be set for PITCH, not trim, which I think makes stall/spin possible (not agreeing with DG for gosh sakes, just saying...)According to others this isn't possible. The autopilot was not connected to the trim.
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Damn things will kill you if you don't pay attention to them.
Amen, brother!Yep. Kinda like airplanes. And motorcycles. And wives.
In a rather philosophical debate I once had, a guy asked me "Really what is "reality"?" I answered,
"Reality is what will kill you if you ignore its attributes."
Interesting coming from a guy who writes alternative history! ;-)Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away - Philip K. Dick
Houses get real big real fast at 200mph aimed at the ground that low.
Who is deleting the videos, and why?Her videos are being disappeared.
If you look at earlier posts in this thread, people linked to some of her recent videos, that is now displaying a message that says, "Video has been set to private." If you go on her channel and look, it says the most recent video she has published is 8 months ago.What videos have been deleted? Her profile says 54 videos, which I think is what she had before. That they drop out of one's feed doesn't mean they've been deleted.