Superbowl Thread

midwestpa24 said:
I don't understand why the NFL continues to hire controversial entertainers with all these hidden "messages" for the Super Bowl halftime. Whatever happened to good family fun?
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Apparently it doesn't generate enough money.
Timbeck2 said:
I guess it’s like looking at a painting in a museum and being asked what it means to me. Which is probably why I found the commercial with the banana duct taped to the wall so funny
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That one was worth a chuckle, but the flying eyebrows... I was nearly in tears. The caterpillars...
 
I wonder when they’ll figure it out that paying 6 guys sitting in a half circle commenting on what we just saw and what the losing team needs to do to turn the game around, is useless.
 
Timbeck2 said:
I wonder when they’ll figure it out that paying 6 guys sitting in a half circle commenting on what we just saw and what the losing team needs to do to turn the game around, is useless.
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I don't mind commentary and kind of like hearing from people who played the game. But, at a minimum, I'm with you on six guys being too much. Each one gets what seems like 35 seconds. If they're gonna bother to spend money on talking heads, get fewer of them and give them enough time to finish a thought.
 
midwestpa24 said:
I don't understand why the NFL continues to hire controversial entertainers with all these hidden "messages" for the Super Bowl halftime. Whatever happened to good family fun?
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The NFL is looking at it's next target audience.. Also, what was is the average age of the player on the field let alone their ethnicity? As for good family fun, think of what your parent would been saying if the Rolling Stones played "Lets Spend the Night Together" the halftime show of the first Superbowl..

Though I will say, some of the commercials were a little creepy...
 
The commercials didn’t even meet expectations,for what they pay,for air time. The commercials do slow the game down stalling any momentum.
 
MIFlyer said:
Tons of american's would have tuned in to a Bills-Commanders game. Both underdogs, both teams that most other fans don't have a grudge on, both teams that have really played hard the last few years, both teams never to the big dance.
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Maybe a new championship game should be started for the two NFL teams with the worst records of the year.

They could call it....

Wait for it...

The Last Chance Bowl.

Sponsored by Port-a-Potty, because when there is no other place to go, think Port-a-Potty....
 
Zeldman said:
Maybe a new championship game should be started for the two NFL teams with the worst records of the year.

They could call it....

Wait for it...

The Last Chance Bowl.

Sponsored by Port-a-Potty, because when there is no other place to go, think Port-a-Potty....
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Whether not people watch would, I suppose, depend
 
Ventucky Red said:
The NFL is looking at it's next target audience.. Also, what was is the average age of the player on the field let alone their ethnicity? As for good family fun, think of what your parent would been saying if the Rolling Stones played "Lets Spend the Night Together" the halftime show of the first Superbowl..

Though I will say, some of the commercials were a little creepy...
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That's all fine and dandy. I've quit watching the NFL almost entirely, only watch the Super Bowl and that is looking less and less likely in the future. Between all the subluminal, or sometimes overt, political messaging, and the continued changing the rules to control the outcome of the game, I don't find it nearly as entertaining as it once was. I don't think I'm alone, as it appears their viewership numbers have decreased slightly.

I just don't understand why everything must be politicized these days. Whether it is retail stores, restaurant chains, movies, sports, you name it, its hard to get away from it. Can't we just enjoy somethings?
 
frfly172 said:
The commercials didn’t even meet expectations,for what they pay,for air time. The commercials do slow the game down stalling any momentum.
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One of the teams didn't seem to have any trouble building and maintaining momentum...
 
<sniff><sniff>Whew!!! I can still smell that Chiefs performance!

edit: The local sports radio guys are really having a good time with this, "Do you know how hard you have to try to be THAT bad?"
 
Matthew said:
<sniff><sniff>Whew!!! I can still smell that Chiefs performance!

edit: The local sports radio guys are really having a good time with this, "Do you know how hard you have to try to be THAT bad?"
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people don't remember how badly the broncos did against seattle (XLVIII)?

Now THAT was a complete wipeout. And not because seattle was that good, but the broncos completely tanked.
 
Nothing new, though. Superbowl games with large margins aren't uncommon, and you only have to look back to LV to see Tampa Bay beating the Chiefs by 22 points. Compare that to last night's margin of 18 points. What made LIX so stark was the abyssmal performance of the Chiefs for three-fourths of the game.

Of course, LIX would have looked even worse for the Chiefs if not for the offsides call that wiped out a second pick-six on Mahomes.
 
Halftime show? I turn the volume off so I don't have to listen to the inane panel of washed up guys doing the commentary. We go eat while we're waiting for the players to come back.
 
midwestpa24 said:
That's all fine and dandy. I've quit watching the NFL almost entirely, only watch the Super Bowl and that is looking less and less likely in the future. Between all the subluminal, or sometimes overt, political messaging, and the continued changing the rules to control the outcome of the game, I don't find it nearly as entertaining as it once was. I don't think I'm alone, as it appears their viewership numbers have decreased slightly.

I just don't understand why everything must be politicized these days. Whether it is retail stores, restaurant chains, movies, sports, you name it, its hard to get away from it. Can't we just enjoy somethings?
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I have a friend that is in "the business" and we were talking about this a few weeks back as they predicted a decline in this year's viewership.. He called it NFL Fatigue...

Last year was a record breaker, with what 124 million viewers.. they only other thing that beat that was the moon landing.
 
Half Fast said:
Possible, but given his performance up until then (including a previous pick-six) it seems more likely that he didn't see the defender.
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He made a lot of mistakes, but be fair, everything about that play looked like he knew it was a free play and why not take a shot. There was nothing sneaky or otherwise non-obvious about that defense. There was no hesitation in looking down field. The offsides was right there in his face and not subtle. He knew it was a freebie.
 
172andyou said:
everything about that play looked like he knew it was a free play and why not take a shot.
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That is what Brady said as soon as it happened. He may have the personality of a wooden indian, but he knows more about being a super bowl QB than any human alive.

BTW, Fox missed a golden opportunity by not having Brady and Belichick call the game together. Might have been stilted and boring, but that much football IQ in one room would have been amazing.
 
Ed Haywood said:
That is what Brady said as soon as it happened. He may have the personality of a wooden indian, but he knows more about being a super bowl QB than any human alive.

BTW, Fox missed a golden opportunity by not having Brady and Belichick call the game together. Might have been stilted and boring, but that much football IQ in one room would have been amazing.
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Exactly. Anyone who watched aaron rogers golden years in green bay can say the same. Dude was a master of using the hard count and getting free plays.
 
Bob Noel said:
mahomes probably saw the flag and didn’t need to worry about a pick
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Yeah. Might as well throw it to a covered receiver and hope for either a catch or PI. Trying for a big hit is pretty standard strategy on a free play.
 
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I mostly only watched the game and skipped the commercials. Sounds like it would have been better to watch the commercials and skip the game. I was disappointed in the result, but the Eagles were clearly the better team. KC needs to find bigger grass-fed beef for their O-Line for next year. To paraphrase a coach from long ago, the Eagles' D-Line rushing Mahomes looked like Sherman taking Atlanta.
 
Crashnburn said:
I mostly only watched the game and skipped the commercials. Sounds like it would have been better to watch the commercials and skip the game.
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Well, the music in the commercials was more entertaining than that from the halftime show and didn't try to convey as much messaging.
 
172andyou said:
Here's the crib notes

(unrelated: I just realized I haven't heard someone use the phrase 'crib notes' in decades. Did I just date myself?)
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The telling thing is out of all of the people saying that there was this “deep message that few understood”, none of them can actually explain what the deep message actually was. That link is just one example.
 
Albany Tom said:
I didn't even know who was playing until GF turned the game on to watch the halftime show. Then, I had no idea who the guy was dancing and talking, but did wonder if that was maybe a late 80's Buick Regal or Monte Carlo that all the dancers were climbing out of. Next, I found out that Terry Bradshaw is apparently still alive, maybe. Those were my highlights.
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One thing I liked about the halftime show is that I can still recognize a Buick Grand National from quite a distance.
 
gregjay said:
One thing I liked about the halftime show is that I can still recognize a Buick Grand National from quite a distance.
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I wondered if that might be what it was! There weren't very many fast US cars in the 80's...we had a Mercury that topped out at 85 mph with the accelerator firmly held against the floor. The back half of the top looked different. Someone in Troy had on, parked it right on the street just north of the college...17th street I think. Pretty car.
 
Salty said:
The telling thing is out of all of the people saying that there was this “deep message that few understood”, none of them can actually explain what the deep message actually was.
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The deep message isn't "Kendrick Lamar does not like Drake"?
 
Timbeck2 said:
Never heard of the guy. Couldn’t understand the guy. Had no idea what Sammy Jackson’s role was. Heard “forty acres and a mule” in one of his “songs” and deduced that he was tearing down the entire theme of the commercials which seemed to be that we should put aside our racial differences and just be kind to one another. Then he flipped off the camera at the end.

I didn’t get it.
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I didn't get it at all either. I worked hard during the day after having about two hours of sleep the night before so I was kinda half asleep for the whole thing.

I also am not a fan of Kendrick Lamar (I've heard of him, but I don't think I've really heard much of his music), and it seems like that helped some people understand the messages behind it all. I read a few different descriptions of the meaning behind it that were actually pretty interesting, and some musicians I greatly respect (not famous musicians, but really damn good ones nonetheless) had some high praise for it. So I guess I'm gonna take notes and watch it again at some point. Maybe.
midwestpa24 said:
I don't understand why the NFL continues to hire controversial entertainers with all these hidden "messages" for the Super Bowl halftime. Whatever happened to good family fun?
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"Good family fun?" Like this? (Holy cow, this was 21 years ago! :o)

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MIFlyer said:
Kind of in a similar vein. The NFL screwed up by giving KC the superbowl run 3 years in a row. Tons of american's would have tuned in to a Bills-Commanders game. Both underdogs, both teams that most other fans don't have a grudge on, both teams that have really played hard the last few years, both teams never to the big dance.
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Definitely would have been a better game and a bigger audience... But they've both been to the big dance several times, just not in the last 30 years. Washington is 3-2 in Super Bowls, the Bills are 0-4.

Someone pointed out early in the playoffs that if we had a Vikings-Bills Super Bowl, one of them would have gone home with their first title in 5 appearances, and the other would be going home as the first team to be 0-5 in the Super Bowl.

Half Fast said:
(Did anything in the NFL this year come close to the drama of the UGA-GT game going into eight overtimes?)
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Eight? That's ridiculous. They need some new rules...

Reminds me of the time I was watching a Brewers game on TV. It was already in extra innings when we hopped in the car and went to the stadium. Nobody's checking tickets in the 10th inning! And we saw a full game's worth before it was finally over.
Half Fast said:
Also, all the peripheral and messaging ca-ca wrapped around pro football is really obnoxious to me. I just want to watch a decent game without the BS.
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So just watch the game and don't pay attention to the "messaging".

If you didn't know and specifically look for the "messaging" in the halftime show, you'd have never known it was there. As far as the rest of the game (and all the other games), IMO, if you're offended by what little they have, it's because you want to be offended.
Bob Noel said:
people don't remember how badly the broncos did against seattle (XLVIII)?

Now THAT was a complete wipeout. And not because seattle was that good, but the broncos completely tanked.
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I do remember that. Afterwards I posted something on Facebook to the effect of "In case you missed the Super Bowl, the Seattle Seahawks defeated Wes Welker." It was like the rest of the team completely forgot how to play football, and did not mentally show up whatsoever.
Ventucky Red said:
I have a friend that is in "the business" and we were talking about this a few weeks back as they predicted a decline in this year's viewership.. He called it NFL Fatigue...
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I think it's Chiefs Fatigue. Mahomes is the new Brady, though IMO he's a tiny bit less annoying than Brady.
172andyou said:
Exactly. Anyone who watched aaron rogers golden years in green bay can say the same. Dude was a master of using the hard count and getting free plays.
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He really was. Hard count, and catching the other team with 12 men on the field.
Salty said:
The telling thing is out of all of the people saying that there was this “deep message that few understood”, none of them can actually explain what the deep message actually was. That link is just one example.
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I've seen a few different analyses of it. Like most things that are deep, the message isn't something you can explain in one sentence. And I probably can't explain it at all because it went right over the top of my head, just like most of the other white non-rap-fan dudes.
 
This is what I always think about when recalling past super bowls:

New England Patriots vs Atlanta Falcons Feb 5, 2017

Final/OT

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The Atlanta Falcons are 0-2 in Superbowls. It's harder being a Falcons fan than being a Ga. Tech Fan. At least Ga. Tech can occasionally win big games.
 
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