NA - What are the food rules? / Cross Contamination

MauleSkinner said:
I’ve never tried it for 2-4 hours…but I know that leaving food in the (unplugged) crockpot for 5 days when you get called for a pop-up trip makes it largely inedible.
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Sounds like a good excuse to get a new crockpot. That probably smelled like a crime scene.
 
AV8R_87 said:
Sounds like a good excuse to get a new crockpot. That probably smelled like a crime scene.
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Eh, I only averaged food poisoning twice a year when I was single, and only about half of it was from my kitchen.
 
Matthew said:
Oof.

Remind me to tell the Big Green Egg story.
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AV8R_87 said:
You have my attention now
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Sam-I-am offers an unnamed man a plate of green eggs and ham, but the man tells him that he hates the food. Sam continues to follow the man, asking him to eat the food in some locations (house, box, car, tree, train, dark, rain, boat) and with some animals (mouse, fox, goat) for dining partners. Finally, when the man agrees to try the dish Sam-I-am has offered, he realizes that he does like green eggs and ham. He announces that he will eat them anywhere, and he thanks Sam-I-am.

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Green Eggs and Ham - Wikipedia

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AV8R_87 said:
You have my attention now
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Well, here we go:

I finally “retired” from the competition bbq circuit last year. Maybe 15 yrs ago I was set up next to a team of attorneys. I know, the jokes write themselves.

One of those guys got a local bbq store to sponsor them and loaned them a Big Green Egg off the showroom to use for the weekend.

The following year I asked one of the guys about it. His story still haunts me: At the end of the weekend they were packing up to haul things home. It wasn’t very far to his house so he used the BGE as extra storage space for about 20 lb of leftover meat. This contest is always mid-June. Sometime in August he was in his back yard and got a whiff of something. He thought, “NOW what have those dogs got into?” Then he noticed the BGE on his back deck, right where he left it a month prior and almost filled his drawers when he realized what he had done. Right then his phone rang. It was the bbq store asking when he planned on returning the BGE. He said, “I’ll bring it over, but you’re gonna want to burn that thing out as hot as you can as long as you can.” Then he had to find something long enough to use to open the lid and pull out what used to be meat.
 
Ok, small children and easily offended adults should stop reading this post right about now. When they say 'cross contamination' it really means 'raw chicken contamination', because there's no harm in putting the clean into the dirty, and because there's nothing else as dirty in the kitchen, including the just released from jail cook, than chicken. And the joke 'must be sprayed with bleach if contaminated with chicken' isn't a joke. They generally are washed down with a bleach solution before packaging so they don't smell like poo when you open the package. If the average person saw or smelled a chicken going into a processing plant they'd never eat the stuff again.

Yes, I eat chicken, but I wash the stuff and cook it to 165F, and treat it like it's leaking and dripping critters everywhere when it's raw...because it is.

Beef burger? I'll eat them rare.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Currently because I don't know, I use separate cutting boards, tongs, and spatulas for each.
Lets say I want to grill chicken, steak, and fish. What series of actions would constitute cross contamination and what is the danger?
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Go to Chipotle. It's less complicated.
 
Albany Tom said:
Ok, small children and easily offended adults should stop reading this post right about now. When they say 'cross contamination' it really means 'raw chicken contamination', because there's no harm in putting the clean into the dirty, and because there's nothing else as dirty in the kitchen, including the just released from jail cook, than chicken. And the joke 'must be sprayed with bleach if contaminated with chicken' isn't a joke. They generally are washed down with a bleach solution before packaging so they don't smell like poo when you open the package. If the average person saw or smelled a chicken going into a processing plant they'd never eat the stuff again.

Yes, I eat chicken, but I wash the stuff and cook it to 165F, and treat it like it's leaking and dripping critters everywhere when it's raw...because it is.

Beef burger? I'll eat them rare.
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Have you ever researched the growing methods of imported tilapia? It’s good cheap protein, but if you enjoy eating it I suggest you don’t.
 
Flatiowa said:
Have you ever researched the growing methods of imported tilapia? It’s good cheap protein, but if you enjoy eating it I suggest you don’t.
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:) I haven't, but I do avoid food products that sound like they're the name of a species, but aren't.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Eh, I only averaged food poisoning twice a year when I was single, and only about half of it was from my kitchen.
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One of my latest bouts was wings from a national chain shop.

I went online and reported the incident. About 4:30PM the next day I got a call from the county health department. They had visited the shop and found a fridge that was not keeping the raw food cold enough. The shop go to throw out everything in the fridge.
 
Albany Tom said:
If the average person saw or smelled a chicken going into a processing plant they'd never eat the stuff again.
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Not only going in but seeing the process from entrance to exit and enduring some of the odors inside the plant. Another place many need not visit is a commercial chicken house where these chickens are raised ...
 
GeorgeC said:
If raw chicken touches anything, I understand the entire kitchen has to be pressure washed with boiling bleach.
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On the other hand, waving fruits and vegetables near running water is sufficient for ritual cleanliness.
 
Better check on some of the regulations in the countries those fruits and vegetables are imported from before going all in on that being enough… sewage effluent irrigation water is not unheard of. Granted IF the sewage treatment plant is properly designed and OPERATING it “should” be okay, but if I have the option of potable running water I’ll choose to at least rinse it well over waving it by it.
 
I want to hear more about that kitchen sink with the bacon grease in it!
 
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