Irma

Clark1961 said:
The stateOSHA investigation on that one would have some really simple questions: "Why exactly did you station an employee standing in an unprotected area during passage of the eyewall?" And "Okay, I understand you wanted to have higher ratings which in turn generates more revenue, do you believe an employee has to risk injury or death to do their job?"
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Not sure, it'll be exempted as 'art' or something. If UFCer A beats UFCer B into a coma it's not an OSHA issue either.

FEMA has protocols on testing saferooms. They fire a saboted 2x4 from a compressed air cannon at 200mph. It goes straight through unreinforced concrete block wall. I doubt a helmet is going to do much good in a real flying debris impalement.
 
I'm just amazed that TWC gets away with being so sexist. They never put any of the hot weather babes out in the storms, in wet shirts and with skirts blowing up...
 
Half Fast said:
I'm just amazed that TWC gets away with being so sexist. They never put any of the hot weather babes out in the storms, in wet shirts and with skirts blowing up...
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Ooh like to see Stephanie Abrams out there!

edit: Lol she's out there now in Bradenton! lol
Wet too but not in a T shirt, covered up good.
 
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Half Fast said:
It must suck to be Jim Cantore's camera man. You're in the same conditions, taking the same beating while trying to handle a camera, yet you earn about 1/10 of what Jim does, nobody knows (or cares) who you are, no fame, no glory,...
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And you have to keep wiping the camera lens so Jim is always clearly visible.
 
Jim's friend:

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Still have power here in Sarasota...the tree that was a sapling when we bought the house in 2007 has unfortunately bit the dust...wind gusts probably in the 50-60 mph range now

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With the weakening of the storm, the dire forecasts about the storm surge are being scaled back. Tampa Bay will see quite limited impact from coastal flooding, they still have wind and overland flooding fom the rain.
 
kyleb said:
To start with, since no airliners are going into Florida, there are very few routes that carry them into South Georgia. Second, from a GA perspective, it is already pretty breezy here just North of Atlanta. Not sure I'd go up in these conditions for a joy ride. I'm sure it is worse to the South.
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Just flew American into KATL this afternoon. Gusting 30 from the east according to the captain. A little side to side rocking during the landing but actually pretty standard. His plane is a little heavier than mine, though.
 
Changing the subject from this Jim Cantore lovefest:

On a positive note, I went to Atlanta GA to Fat Mat Rib Shack. I use to eat there many years ago, it's just as good as I remembered it:








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FloridaPilot said:
Changing the subject from this Jim Cantore lovefest:

On a positive note, I went to Atlanta GA to Fat Mat Rib Shack. I use to eat there many years ago, it's just as good as I remembered it:








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Damn just ate, and for some reason I'm hungry again. :)

Where is that? Never heard nor knew of it while I lived in the ATL area.
 
I've been watching the coverage safely from my home in Cleveland. In case you were wondering where my mom's house is, Mother Nature was helpful enough to draw a bullseye around it.

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My in laws, who are riding the storm there, sent video of the storm but I can't link it here from my phone. The power is out, but it looks like the only damage is lanai screens and a few trees down in the yard.
 
Naples airport KAPF automated weather was reporting during the hurricane passage, and still is reporting. That's impressive.

Here's the fastest gust it recorded:
KAPF 101810Z AUTO 06040G70KT 1/2SM RA FG OVC012 24/24 RMK AO2 PK WND 07071/1800 LTG DSNT S P0014 T02440244 $

And here's the fastest in nearby Ft Meyers:
KRSW 110009Z AUTO 25033G60KT 1SM -RA BR BKN011 OVC024 26/24 A2844 RMK AO2 PK WND 25060/0002 PRESRR P0001 T02560239 $
 
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Miami's automated reporting lost its wind meter, sky condition, and precipitation soon after a 63 kt gust. After that it just reported pressure.

Data at: 0418 UTC 11 Sep 2017

KMIA 110353Z AUTO A2948 RMK AO2 SLP984 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 110253Z AUTO A2944 RMK AO2 SLP971 52044 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 110153Z AUTO A2940 RMK AO2 SLP957 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 110053Z AUTO A2935 RMK AO2 SLP940 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 102353Z AUTO A2931 RMK AO2 SLP927 53034 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 102253Z AUTO A2926 RMK AO2 SLP910 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 102153Z AUTO A2923 RMK AO2 SLP900 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 102053Z AUTO A2921 RMK AO2 SLP893 58007 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101953Z AUTO A2922 RMK AO2 SLP896 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101853Z AUTO A2923 RMK AO2 SLP900 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101753Z AUTO A2923 RMK AO2 SLP900 6//// 58037 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101653Z AUTO A2928 RMK AO2 SLP917 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101553Z AUTO A2932 RMK AO2 SLP930 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101453Z AUTO A2934 RMK AO2 SLP937 6//// 58015 PWINO RVRNO PNO $
KMIA 101353Z AUTO A2935 RMK AO2 PK WND 10063/1312 RAEMM SLP940 P0013 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101327Z AUTO 26/24 A2935 RMK AO2 PK WND 10063/1312 RAEMM PRESFR P0013 T02560244 PWINO RVRNO $
KMIA 101319Z AUTO 10041G63KT 1 3/4SM RA BR BKN015 OVC023 26/24 A2936 RMK AO2 PK WND 10063/1312 PRESFR P0012 T02560244 $
KMIA 101253Z AUTO 10043G62KT 1 1/4SM +RA BR SCT015 BKN020 OVC028 26/24 A2939 RMK AO2 PK WND 10062/1248 SLP953 P0024 T02560239
KMIA 101231Z AUTO 10041G61KT 1 1/4SM +RA BR BKN015 BKN021 OVC029 26/24 A2939 RMK AO2 PK WND 12061/1231 P0016 T02610244
KMIA 101216Z AUTO 10039G53KT 1 3/4SM RA BR SCT013 BKN021 OVC028 26/24 A2939 RMK AO2 PK WND 11061/1158 P0009 T02560239
KMIA 101207Z AUTO 10037G61KT 1 1/4SM +RA BR SCT013 BKN019 OVC028 25/23 A2938 RMK AO2 PK WND 11061/1158 PRESFR P0007 T02500233
KMIA 101153Z AUTO 10034G52KT 2SM RA BR SCT013 BKN021 OVC025 25/23 A2941 RMK AO2 PK WND 11059/1113 SLP959 P0059 60119 70233 T02500233 10272 20244 56019
KMIA 101133Z AUTO 11036G56KT 1 1/2SM +RA BR FEW013 OVC022 25/23 A2943 RMK AO2 PK WND 11059/1113 VIS 1V3 P0052 T02500233
KMIA 101116Z AUTO 11040G59KT 2SM +RA BR OVC019 26/24 A2942 RMK AO2 PK WND 11059/1113 P0045 T02560239
 
Salty said:
I planned to tank up at home, but the pump was broke. We had nearly full tanks though. So new plan was to stop in bacon county ga for gas and continue on to an airport in NC. Taking off at home was a bit squirrelly, very gusty crosswinds. Rest of flight was fine until I started decent into AMG. It kept getting worse and worse the lower we got. It was so bad I didn't have enough rudder to keep it lined up and we were getting tossed around really badly. I aborted at about 100 feet and there was no way I was even trying again. We still had more than 2 hours of gas, so I started climbing again and looking for alternatives. AMG was supposedly 7knot gusting xwind, but I already knew that was inaccurate. All the airports nearby were showing 15G20+ with double digit xwinds. I was freaking out at that point. Decided I couldn't trust the forecasts so I just wanted on the ground. So I found the closest airport with a runway into the wind and we landed in Vidalia with no issues. They put the bird in a hangar and we apparently got the last room in town.
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Glad to hear it went well. Sounds pretty hairy, up til now I never thought about "what if even alternate airports had too high wind to land?"

Up until now I had never heard the word "tornadic" but have heard it twice from the reporters in the field.

Glad to hear you guys are safe!
 
After Pigging out with some BBQ Ribs. I decided to visit the Georgia Aquarium which was awesome! If you are into viewing Sea life I would recommend as well.
 

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mscard88 said:
Damn just ate, and for some reason I'm hungry again. :)

Where is that? Never heard nor knew of it while I lived in the ATL area.
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It's on Piedmont I just google mapped it.

I also went to see Turner field which they changed, sad to see how they changed it to football. A lot of memories in that Stadium in the 90's.
 
Is that twin with green trim now a salvage plane...or can you fix that?
 
Ouch. Looks like homestead got hit pretty hard. Neighbor says I lost a tree, but no property damage.
 
Damn! I hate to see aircraft destroyed. I can understand owners taking their chances but their stupidity is hard to get a handle on.
 
Norman said:
Damn! I hate to see aircraft destroyed. I can understand owners taking their chances but their stupidity is hard to get a handle on.
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Save the plane?

Save the family?

Choose the family...

Doesn't sound stoooopid to me.
 
Couldn't you fly you and your family out?! Avoid all the traffic too!

I don't want to judge though you never know what the situation was.

How exactly would that green trimmed plane have wound up in that position?

Anyway made light of my evac from Florida here in Memphis. Took a friend up for just some local VFR around Memphis, I will say KMEM was very ga VFR friendly for departure and arrival back in!
 
Some pics from my local VFR flight around MEM you can see the remnants of Irma coming this way, figured why not enjoy a local flight before heading home later this weekIMG_8272.JPG IMG_8271.JPG
 
In many instances it's a rather calculated financial move. To each their own.

JustinD said:
How exactly would that green trimmed plane have wound up in that position?
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Arrow-Seminole/Lance-Seneca are all identical retract system. No downlocks, only overcenter arms, hydraulic actuators (when pressurized) and spring assist on the nosewheel. Which means, when on the ground, the only thing keeping ya from collapsing is hydraulic pressure and the overcenter. Unpowered, just the overcenter.

Which means, with enough sideloading and vertical shimmying (aka cornering) you can force an overcenter collapse on the outside of the turn. A hurricane gale can easily push the airplane to pop the strut up and past the overcenter tension. Look at the position of the collapsed nosewheel. That's a LOT of sideforce in order to collapse it sideways (that one doesn't rotate in that direction mind you); the main strut arm linkages have no shot of holding that kind of sideloading.
 
Norman said:
Damn! I hate to see aircraft destroyed. I can understand owners taking their chances but their stupidity is hard to get a handle on.
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Based on your signature line, I'm guessing you're a politician. :D

You've got a 4-place plane with a wife, 2 or 3 kids, a dog, a cat, maybe a mother or father that you care for.

Pretty easy decision for smart people. I can see how you missed it.
 
I learned my plane isn't big enough to get my family out comfortably. Yes, we got out safely, which is more important, but I need a bigger plane to do it without a lot of extra stress.
 
Well, Irma has come and gone from Atlanta, leaving many of us in darkness. Considering how low intensity this storm was, that's pretty embarrassing.
 
Yeah ended up good here in the BHM area. Had some wind and rain, but no damage or trees down. I think downtown BHM had some flooding. Thank God we didn't lose anyone. Now Jose, what's that bugger gonna do and go?

Drove down to Destin today. A few trees down. Sadly on I65 saw a lot of FL tags, packed w/ possessions, headed back to FL. Felt so sorry for them, not knowing what they'll find when they get home. Started getting crazy so I got off the interstate and went the back way on 2 lanes. A lot more relaxing drive.

Beautiful weather, a few clouds, wind 5-10 in Destin. Had some seafood on the dock and could see F-15s beating up the pattern across the bay at Elgin. Good vis plus wind out of the NW so I could hear the sound of freedom from those bad boys too. Never gets old watching fighters.
 
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mscard88 said:
Yeah ended up good here in the BHM area. Had some wind and rain, but no damage or trees down. I think downtown BHM had some flooding. Thank God we didn't lose anyone. Now Jose, what's that bugger gonna do and go?
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Most likely scenario is that it turns and swings back out to sea instead of hitting the US, but things can always change.
 
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