When you guys file an IFR flight plan, do you typically file to the destination airport or file to an IAF?
Thanks.
even eman can answer that one..........file to an airport. IAF is part of the approach, which there could be different approaches per airport.
Following the advice of an former instructor I had whom was also a center controller, I file with an two intermediate points between the originating airport and the destination airport. That way, if I have lost comm, they know where I will be prior to shooting an approach to the destination airport.
Following the advice of an former instructor I had whom was also a center controller, I file with an two intermediate points between the originating airport and the destination airport. That way, if I have lost comm, they know where I will be prior to shooting an approach to the destination airport.
Why bother? I tend to look at information on the destination airport including the AF/D and available approaches if I haven't been there recently. It's no big deal to say the wind is usually out of the southwest around here so which runway and approach are most likely. In fact I'd say that is part of prudent planning.I’ll argue it doesn’t matter. They are going to clear all the airspace around you and they can only guess what you are really going to do. You’re just guessing the IAF anyway since A. the weather could change or B. you might deviate to another airport so why bother?
I try to include an IAF when possible.
You mean they should include something totally off-the-wall in the AIM, like "Block 9. Enter the destination airport identifier code (or name if the identifier is unknown)"?Gee, too bad the AIM does have any recommendations on how to file an IFR route.
Following the advice of an former instructor I had whom was also a center controller, I file with an two intermediate points between the originating airport and the destination airport. That way, if I have lost comm, they know where I will be prior to shooting an approach to the destination airport.
You mean they should include something totally off-the-wall in the AIM, like "Block 9. Enter the destination airport identifier code (or name if the identifier is unknown)"?
OH, THE HUMANITY!!!
Gee, too bad the AIM does have any recommendations on how to file an IFR route.
So "through" an IAF "to" the destination airport. My sarcasm wasn't directed at you...sorry it came across that way.The way I stated the original question was poor. I meant what Walboy had stated...of course I would include my destination.
So "through" an IAF "to" the destination airport. My sarcasm wasn't directed at you...sorry it came across that way.
At best, I've filed a fix on a STAR, but never an approach fix.
Eh? They will expect you to be on your assigned/vectored/expected/filed route (if they are going to even care).Following the advice of an former instructor I had whom was also a center controller, I file with an two intermediate points between the originating airport and the destination airport. That way, if I have lost comm, they know where I will be prior to shooting an approach to the destination airport.
I don't understand why so many make up their own answers to questions to which the official documents already provide an answer.I’ve never understood these types of posts on an online forum.
I don't understand why so many make up their own answers to questions to which the official documents already provide an answer.
I don't understand why so many make up their own answers to questions to which the official documents already provide an answer.
In Navy training we were taught to file to an IAF. I quit doing it right after I got my wings.
In Navy training we were taught to file to an IAF. I quit doing it right after I got my wings.
That’s what I meant, I assumed that’s what the OP meant too.We generally used the IAF as the last fix in the route of flight on a 175 but always used destination airport in the “to” block.
I've seen their training, very catchy
My comment wasn't directed at you for asking the question. My comment was directed toward those providing the answers. I would have hoped that someone would have provided the applicable info from the AIM instead of a series of conflicting "what I do" answers.Just so you know. I've read the AIM, the IFH, some of the IPH, the PHAK, and several other FAA publications. Do I remember EVERYTHING I read in those documents? NO.
and, most airports will have more than one approach and several different initial approach fixes.. so while yes, you might be trying to pick the one that makes the most sense, when you actually lose your comm there's no guarantee that that's still going to be the most favorable approach, or the one you were even cleared to. So, I file to the airport and fly the route that was assigned to me in the event that I lose my comms
This board is full of experts that love to be condescending. No harm, no foul bud!Just so you know. I've read the AIM, the IFH, some of the IPH, the PHAK, and several other FAA publications. Do I remember EVERYTHING I read in those documents? NO. Not to mention different books conflict with each other anyways. There isn't always just one right way to do something.
Even if I know a potential answer to something, there is no harm in asking how OTHER PILOTS do things, interpret things, etc. This is an online pilot forum in case you forgot. PoA would be nothing without the questions (yes even if they are redundant and have been asked before) of other pilots, old and new.
Seriously...when people respond in the manner that you did...I wonder, "Wow, is this how they treat other pilots at their local airport? Is this the way they are introducing others to GA?" I expect that the answer is no, because to date I have never met ANYONE at my local airport who wasn't friendly and helpful. Why do you treat an online forum any differently? I probably know the answer to that...