Employee microchips

My response would be hell no, you aren't put a chip in my hand. That's some serious big brother stuff right there, hell I don't even like ADSB!
 
I just pulled a piece of cash out of my pocket, and it says "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE."

Based on that, it seems like if someone refused cash payment, you could just leave the cash on the counter and walk out with the merchandise.
 
Rushie said:
I am violently allergic to metals so I for one will never agree to this. I don't even let them put metal crowns on my teeth without doing a skin test. (High noble: gold, silver, copper is what I tolerate). Unless your chips are that, I will run screaming.
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Encased in silicone/plastic?
 
I have seen a lot more cash only places in the big city than in the burbs. Strange, considering the tech industry here.
 
Palmpilot said:
I wonder if there's any case law on that. Judges often frown on interpretations of statutes that render them meaningless.
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There's no statute (except at certain State levels) requiring anyone to accept cash, which would seem to say that no Federal judge would ever hear such a case at all.
 
denverpilot said:
There's no statute (except at certain State levels) requiring anyone to accept cash, which would seem to say that no Federal judge would ever hear such a case at all.
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Your link cited a statute that says it's legal tender, so the issue is whether that statute amounts to a requirement to accept cash. So far, all we have on that is SGOTI's opinion, and an opinion on an agency Web page that may or may not have been tested in court. :dunno:
 
Hard to believe but the legal tender verbiage seems to have little more meaning than some of the other verbiage on our currency.
 
Palmpilot said:
Your link cited a statute that says it's legal tender, so the issue is whether that statute amounts to a requirement to accept cash. So far, all we have on that is SGOTI's opinion, and an opinion on an agency Web page that may or may not have been tested in court. :dunno:
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I just like when people pay parking ticket fines with pennies. :)
 
SkyDog58 said:
Hard to believe but the legal tender verbiage seems to have little more meaning than some of the other verbiage on our currency.
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It may or may not have been tested in court. It's probably not worth being the test case!
 
Palmpilot said:
It may or may not have been tested in court. It's probably not worth being the test case!
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Definitely not. Pay a lawyer to find out why you can't pay someone the way you want to. LOL.

Lawyer will probably take cash though. Ask for a receipt. :)
 
Palmpilot said:
As with the previously linked, substantially identical, federal Web page, no mention is made of whether that interpretation has been tested in court.
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Clearly if it had, it would be one of the top results of a Google search.

It hasn't and it's not going to be. Because the Court has other ways to get at assets.
 
Cash is one form of legal tender. It's not the only form.

I have no doubt that it's been tested in court - back in the "company town" days of mining employees were often paid in company script rather than US cash, and that scrip was redeemable only at the company store.

In NJ, at least, there is a court case: https://consumerist.com/2013/02/25/...-need-to-accept-cash-for-in-flight-purchases/

In fact, accepting too much cash can land you in hot water with the Feds if you don't file paperwork.
 
Looks like that case answers my question.
 
Dang. I didn't even think of the airline in-flight purchase thing! LOL. Awesome.
 
I'm amazed that someone actually thought it worthwhile to sue over it!
 
Palmpilot said:
Looks like that case answers my question.
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Hmm, maybe not. On reading the Appellate Division's decision, it appears that the applicability of the legal tender law was not decided in that case. Rather, the decision was based on the fact that he was suing under a state law, and the federal Airline Deregulation Act contains a federal preemption clause regarding "price, route, or service of an air carrier that may provide air transportation under this subpart."
 
A totally cashless society where you had to have a merchant account to accept payments by credit or debit card would make it hard on folks who want to sell their used car, have a garage/yard sell, bake sales at schools, little kid's lemonade stands, passing the hat to collect money for someone, and more.

Heck, it would even wipe out the age old tradition of tucking dollar bills. That would be a tragedy.

However there would be upsides and the most positive impact would be eliminating panhandlers. So I could almost go for it.
 
Doggtyred said:
Thats because they dont want to pay the credit/debit processing fees..
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True, but I've been with a number of people who need to visit an ATM because they can't pay a small cash bill. Or they select another place to patronize. I will go to a place that only takes cash, but I prefer to charge everything I can.
 
SkyDog58 said:
However there would be upsides and the most positive impact would be eliminating panhandlers. So I could almost go for it.
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Umm... Welcome to modern panhandling:

 
I remember years ago when hookers would carry the old slide style credit card machine. I saw it, I didn't participate.....
 
This is old news...from 2004: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2004/jun/10/onlinesupplement1

As I recall, the idea took hold for a while in several European cities, and I once saw a working example in Hamburg. It was free, and the benefit was that you could link a credit card to your RFID chip serial number so your arm could be scanned instead of paying with cash or credit cards. I remember a worker telling me "this is so much more convenient, and we don't have to worry about our patrons getting tipsy and being robbed on the way home". No idea whether it's still in use there, but it never seemed to catch on.
 
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