Employee microchips

NoHeat said:
"Each chip costs $300, and the company is picking up the tab. They're implanted between a person's thumb and forefinger. "

They are paying too much. It only costs $50 to microchip a dog or cat. I think the company should hire a vet to do it, and give the $250 savings to each employee.

As a bonus, using the vet will provide a nation-wide registration, so if the employee becomes lost and shows up at an animal shelter somewhere, the company will get a call.
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And for another 25 bucks the employee can get neutered and a tick bath....
 
Stewartb said:
Any of you have an enhanced driver license? I do. It's what Alaska issues. Big Brother already has me carrying an rfid chip. They know where I am. I doubt the care, but they know.
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Yes, I have a Sheriff friend said that's what one of the sensors hanging out over the highway, when I exit or enter the state, is reading.

My company ID is also a proximity card, all I have to do is get close enough to a door for It to unlock. Between that and cameras everywhere they pretty much know my every move.
 
GlennAB1 said:
Yes, I have a Sheriff friend said that's what one of the sensors hanging out over the highway, when I exit or enter the state, is reading.
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Colorado has a number of sensors over lanes that aren't toll roads, for toll road transponders. Creepy.
 
denverpilot said:
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I saw a similar gag sign years ago but it was for either the CIA or NSA. I forget which.
 
Ghery said:
No way, no how. My current employer doesn't require it, nor will it ever. Oh yeah, I'm the President and I make the rules. Of course, I'm the only employee, too, but... :p
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"Oh, you'd like to complain to the shift supervisor?"
"Did I mention, I am also the shift supervisor?"
 
Stewartb said:
Any of you have an enhanced driver license? I do. It's what Alaska issues. Big Brother already has me carrying an rfid chip. They know where I am. I doubt the care, but they know.
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What do they do, hang RFID scanners in pine trees?
 
Stewartb said:
Any of you have an enhanced driver license? I do. It's what Alaska issues. Big Brother already has me carrying an rfid chip. They know where I am. I doubt the care, but they know.
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Wrap it in tin foil..???
 
Part of the enhanced driver license thing is mapping your face in the national facial recognition database. The chip isn't the only tool they have to know who you are and where you are. It's the times we live in. I can't change it so there's no reason to get all worked up about it. Life's too short to be angry all the time.
 
Yep, New Mexico is going through the DL change now.

I remember my first Alaska license. It was so crappy it looked like I made it myself. I got pulled over in Texas and the trooper spent about a half hour trying to make sure my license was real, he even asked me if it was real....:lol::lol::lol:
 
NoHeat said:
"Each chip costs $300, and the company is picking up the tab. They're implanted between a person's thumb and forefinger. "

They are paying too much. It only costs $50 to microchip a dog or cat. I think the company should hire a vet to do it, and give the $250 savings to each employee.

As a bonus, using the vet will provide a nation-wide registration, so if the employee becomes lost and shows up at an animal shelter somewhere, the company will get a call.
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I'm sure it has to do with some government regulation that FDA has issued....
 
And I remember the when I went through TSA security at Easterwood when my enhanced license was new. The TSA folks all gathered around to look at my license because they'd all heard about them but had never seen one before. They made me feel like a celebrity but I still got the random pat down.
 
As far as the chips in one's driver license being used for tracking purposes, wouldn't those RFID sleeves that some billfolds/wallets have block it?
 
We have a border patrol checkpoint which is scanning and photographing and probable doing radiation checks. Need to get a pic for you, of the 6 camera-cluster shooting at your vehicle, your tags, your face, your left nostril, pretty invasive! Sometimes I feel like they did a rectal exam even though I just passed by!
 
NoHeat said:
As a bonus, using the vet will provide a nation-wide registration, so if the employee becomes lost and shows up at an animal shelter somewhere, the company will get a call.
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I'd do this. Last time I got out it took my friends weeks to find me.

And it's not just the marketing department who's talking about branding these days.

Nauga,
all sizzle, no steak
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
We have a border patrol checkpoint [...] Sometimes I feel like they did a rectal exam even though I just passed by!
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When the newspaper said, "ICE joins the digital age" I thought they meant technology.

Nauga,
who can't quite put his finger on it.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
We have a border patrol checkpoint which is scanning and photographing and probable doing radiation checks. Need to get a pic for you, of the 6 camera-cluster shooting at your vehicle, your tags, your face, your left nostril, pretty invasive! Sometimes I feel like they did a rectal exam even though I just passed by!
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We all gave up anonymity when we got cell phones. I use Find My Phone a couple of times a week to track my own stuff. I figure other people can track my stuff, too. I'm not so remarkable that anyone would want to, so I have that going for me, which is nice.
 
GlennAB1 said:
Yes, I have a Sheriff friend said that's what one of the sensors hanging out over the highway, when I exit or enter the state, is reading.

My company ID is also a proximity card, all I have to do is get close enough to a door for It to unlock. Between that and cameras everywhere they pretty much know my every move.
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Not too hard to fry a rfid chip - and you have no idea how it happened; mass produced, likely a defect,netc.
 
Back when I was in high school the school district was looking into RFID tagging all the students. It would have allowed them to track attendance and anyone trying to sneak in and out. They abandoned it when they saw the estimated cost for all the scanners and ID tags.

One of the major airlines, I believe, uses geofencing to check the crew in and out for duty. My airline is trying to force us all to text message notifications. That and geofencing will be a cold day in hell before I sign up for it.
 
Just like the license plate readers, they'll just do all of this with facial recognition soon. It's cheaper and easier than maintaining badges and gadgets you have to issue out and get returned.

Which will make Groucho Marx glasses popular again. Yay.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
oh jeez, you mean they arent still the thing? Crap.
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Doubtful. Guy Fawkes masks seem much more popular.

You know. All those "revolutionaries" against mega corps, buying masks made with slave labor of a mega corp in China. LOL.
 
Morgan3820 said:
In 10-15 yrs. it will be commonplace to have one. There will be loud warnings from the religious right but they will be dismissed by the liberal media.
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ROTFL......the religious right saving us from ourselves in some fictional future. I need to clean the coffee off my monitor. Almost as funny as the liberal left doing the same. Let's be honest, they are all to busy arguing on the hill, working bankers hours, and defrauding the federal government billions of dollars every year through their inaction to actually do anything productive. Their constituents are just too dumb to know the difference.
 
35 AoA said:
ROTFL......the religious right saving us from ourselves in some fictional future. I need to clean the coffee off my monitor. Almost as funny as the liberal left doing the same. Let's be honest, they are all to busy arguing on the hill, working bankers hours, and defrauding the federal government billions of dollars every year through their inaction to actually do anything productive. Their constituents are just too dumb to know the difference.
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I guess we will see...
 
denverpilot said:
Just like the license plate readers, they'll just do all of this with facial recognition soon. It's cheaper and easier than maintaining badges and gadgets you have to issue out and get returned.

Which will make Groucho Marx glasses popular again. Yay.
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Big brother is watching. Will make the coup easier.

Some of the current facial recognition systems don't care about glasses.
 
Morgan3820 said:
In 10-15 yrs. it will be commonplace to have one. There will be loud warnings from the religious right but they will be dismissed by the liberal media. You will go to your local DMV to get the implant. Credit cards will still be an option but like cash today used less and less frequently. Cash will dissapear. It will be sold to the masses as a convenience. The banks and government will want it for the security. Infants will get one shortly after birth to prevent mixups. Old people with dementia will get them. Chip readers will become a standard feature of your smartphone. There will be a few holdouts, but it will become increasingly difficult to function in society without one. Then it will become mandatory. Again there will be objections but again they will be dismissed.
Have a great day!
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Scary.
Feasible.
Probable.

One of my patents is for a technology (a chip and software) that allows you to find where the chip is anywhere in 3D space. I originally developed it for use in museums, so the " electronic tour" would know where a person was and tell them about the exhibit. Almost immediately it ended up in pallets in warehouses so they could find and inventory stock. Then in ID cards so they could track the employees.
I wish I had never filed for the patent.

My brother is a Luddite. Doesn't own a smartphone. Doesn't own a computer, no tablet, no email address. He has a credit card, but prefers to pay cash.
It's becoming impossible for him to function in society as it currently exists.

We were in Maine this weekend, and went into a place to buy a gift for his neighbor who was picking up his mail for him while he was gone.
They didn't accept cash. Or checks. Ever.
Their "reason" was they didn't have to worry about being robbed, and they don't have to process paper.

Many of the places we stopped in didn't do paper sales receipts. Text or email only. Saves then money, so they say.

Big brother is not only watching, but controlling your actions.
 
Shepherd said:
Scary.
Feasible.
Probable.

One of my patents is for a technology (a chip and software) that allows you to find where the chip is anywhere in 3D space. I originally developed it for use in museums, so the " electronic tour" would know where a person was and tell them about the exhibit. Almost immediately it ended up in pallets in warehouses so they could find and inventory stock. Then in ID cards so they could track the employees.
I wish I had never filed for the patent.

My brother is a Luddite. Doesn't own a smartphone. Doesn't own a computer, no tablet, no email address. He has a credit card, but prefers to pay cash.
It's becoming impossible for him to function in society as it currently exists.

We were in Maine this weekend, and went into a place to buy a gift for his neighbor who was picking up his mail for him while he was gone.
They didn't accept cash. Or checks. Ever.
Their "reason" was they didn't have to worry about being robbed, and they don't have to process paper.

Many of the places we stopped in didn't do paper sales receipts. Text or email only. Saves then money, so they say.

Big brother is not only watching, but controlling your actions.
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If you listen to some of the online bloggers, it may becom illegal to use cash. Credit cards and electronic transactions are track able, cash is not.

Part of this is the never-gonna-end "war on drugs".
 
wsuffa said:
Part of this is the never-gonna-end "war on drugs".
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Hmm, sounds familiar. Then there was the war on terror.

"Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge, which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible." (1984,1.3.16)
 
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wsuffa said:
If you listen to some of the online bloggers, it may becom illegal to use cash. Credit cards and electronic transactions are track able, cash is not.

Part of this is the never-gonna-end "war on drugs".
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It's always been a war on personal liberty, and never about drugs or terror or anything else.
 
wsuffa said:
If you listen to some of the online bloggers, it may becom illegal to use cash. Credit cards and electronic transactions are track able, cash is not.

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There are some fast food restaurants and convenience stores in a part of Albuquerque that stops taking cash after 3pm to try to slow down all the robberies.
 
Most people want security. And convenience. Freedom isn't in the top 5 or 10. "Safety" is in there, whatever the Hell that means . . . "No cash" works if a sizable majority puts up with it. Most of us put up with the privacy compromise for grocery store affinity cards; if your health insurer starts buying that data, at the individually attributable level, and you buy too much bacon or cheese, maybe your insurer makes an adjustment?

Or, if that gets out and talked about, perhaps a pretty good backlash occurs, and it whipsaws back toward more privacy?
 
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