Colt filing for bankruptcy

Bob Noel said:
nah - someone will figure out a way to import water from China.
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Uhhh, come again? China is buying the Great Lakes supply water from Nestle in bottles (can't just load a tanker, but Nestle can sell them all the bottled water they want) and dumping it into their depleted aquifers. China has a major issue with water and drought and leases farm land from Russia to grow food, and just the other year started importing food for the first time in history.
 
Henning said:
China has a major issue with water and drought and leases farm land from Russia to grow food, and just the other year started importing food for the first time in history.
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China is importing food because they built cities on their best farmland. What we Americans don't realize is that we're unique in the world. Most of America is good farm land, among the best. Most of China is mountains and desert, only about a third is arable. And they have to feed a billion people with that.

But their water concerns are genuine. They get quite a bit of it from Himalayan runoff. The glaciers that feed that runoff are melting, and will likely be gone by the middle of the century. The water goes with them.
 
steingar said:
China is importing food because they built cities on their best farmland. What we Americans don't realize is that we're unique in the world. Most of America is good farm land, among the best. Most of China is mountains and desert, only about a third is arable. And they have to feed a billion people with that.

But their water concerns are genuine. They get quite a bit of it from Himalayan runoff. The glaciers that feed that runoff are melting, and will likely be gone by the middle of the century. The water goes with them.
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China is also buying food because a large portion of their farmland had been decimated by drought, same as central California, the future of agriculture there may be in question, and it is one of the most productive regions in the world.
 
steingar said:
China is importing food because they built cities on their best farmland. What we Americans don't realize is that we're unique in the world. Most of America is good farm land, among the best. Most of China is mountains and desert, only about a third is arable. And they have to feed a billion people with that.

But their water concerns are genuine. They get quite a bit of it from Himalayan runoff. The glaciers that feed that runoff are melting, and will likely be gone by the middle of the century. The water goes with them.
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What will stop China from using a multitude of nuke plants for desalination?
 
ClimbnSink said:
When I was looking into law school (never went) I considered moving to WY, law school out there was 5K a year. Crappiest law school out here was at least 25K. :D
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The deal for kids of University of Wyoming alumni is pretty good, too. They get in-state tuition no matter where mom and dad ended up.

Tom-D said:
I have a 1921 colt woodsman 6.5" barrel .22 this is the best built hand gun I've ever owned.
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Now I'm jealous. That's a great pistol.

rpadula said:
According to Demolition Man, the one winner will be Taco Bell. :D
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From the comedy channel the other day...

"Taco Bell is like taking meth. You end up in a corner in the fetal position not sure if your dead or just need to take a ****. Sometimes both happen."
 
Bob Noel said:
What will stop China from using a multitude of nuke plants for desalination?
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Nothing, and that is in the works with 28 currently under construction to supplement the 21 they already have on line. China is actually taking their air pollution problem seriously as well as water.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I'm pretty sure once he was elected, he outlawed guns. I haven't followed the news much since his election win because I don't believe the liberal media. I've got no use for news now. I have been hunkered down in a bunker waiting for his term to end.

They said he was going to take the guns, then force all the straight be people to be gay. Then there was that GD insurance plan that allowed kids to stay on their parents plan longer which bankrupted the world right after forcing everyone to convert to Islam.

Nope, I am staying down here with my guns away from the gay muslim population that is no doubt in control at this point going door to door collecting the rest of the guns.

If anyone needs me, I will be hiding in this hole having a tea party.
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:lol:
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ClimbnSink said:
If we gave all the bad guys pot, they'd be happier, lazier not so bad guys.
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Yeah, might work, but we would have to give quick marts more security.

The Munchies is a powerful craving. Makes you almost want to kills for a potato chip. :redface:
 
I wonder if my Colt 38 revolver which dates to 1941 will have any "Collectors" value. It's not too many serial #s BEFORE Colt changed the direction of rotation of the cylinder. It was my Dad's U. S. Army-issued sidearm when he was drafted -- first man in Knox County to be drafted -- in 1941. 240th Coast Artillery, Battery E: Fort Williams, Fort McKinley, Fort Preble, missions were to watch for German submarines that might come up the Maine Coast.

HR
 
Lawreston said:
I wonder if my Colt 38 revolver which dates to 1941 will have any "Collectors" value.

HR
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Don't know about that one, but the snake guns, Python, Cobra, Viper, etc are selling at ridiculously high prices right now. Collectors are willing to pay top dollar.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Not surprised since Obama took all the guns away.
It was only a matter of time.
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Whether or not Obama espouses an anti-gun rhetoric, that didn't translate into lower gun sales - quite the opposite.

The percentage of people that were denied purchasing firearms were 0.83% under Clinton, 0.67% under Bush, and 0.46% under Obama. The only real restrictive gun control legislation he passed via Executive Order was to allow doctors to share a history of involuntary confinement into mental institutions for purposes of doing background checks.

Did Colt make a business of selling guns exclusively to confined mental patients? Doubt it.

Also, because of people's fear of what Obama would do, when Obama took office it created a MASSIVE boom for gun manufacturing. And again after re-election and again after Newtown. And even today, monthly gun sales are still higher today than at any point under Bush.

Not everything that goes wrong in the world is because of Obama. Lets say Donald Trump wins and passes a constitutional amendment to guarantee that anybody with any history can buy any gun at a moments notice, 24 hours a day, it would actually severely depress gun sales. (i.e. "I know I can get one later, so why buy one now").

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SixPapaCharlie said:
I'm pretty sure once he was elected, he outlawed guns. I haven't followed the news much since his election win because I don't believe the liberal media. I've got no use for news now. I have been hunkered down in a bunker waiting for his term to end.
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Ahh. Crap. Well played sir. I should have recognized the original sarcasm.

:redface: :cheerswine:
 
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Norman said:
Don't know about that one, but the snake guns, Python, Cobra, Viper, etc are selling at ridiculously high prices right now. Collectors are willing to pay top dollar.
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I have an Anaconda (.44 Mag) with 8" barrel that I'll never sell. It was stolen in a home burglary several years ago, and just recently recovered back to me.

I saw some of the online sale prices for ones in excellent condition going for $2k or more. But I'll never sell it. It's a very unique gun and since being stolen and recovered, has a story behind it.
 
deonb said:
Whether or not Obama espouses an anti-gun rhetoric, that didn't translate into lower gun sales - quite the opposite.

The percentage of people that were denied purchasing firearms were 0.83% under Clinton, 0.67% under Bush, and 0.46% under Obama. The only real restrictive gun control legislation he passed via Executive Order was to allow doctors to share a history of involuntary confinement into mental institutions for purposes of doing background checks.
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That's not true. By executive order, he banned imports of most Russian firearms, similar to how Bush 1 banned import of most Chinese firearms
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
That's not true. By executive order, he banned imports of most Russian firearms, similar to how Bush 1 banned import of most Chinese firearms
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That has more to do with Russia than it does with firearms.

Same when Russian destroyed that Western cheese - it's not because they were anti-cheese.

But sure, yeah, ok now people have to buy AR's instead of AK's. :rolleyes2:
 
deonb said:
That has more to do with Russia than it does with firearms.

Same when Russian destroyed that Western cheese - it's not because they were anti-cheese.

But sure, yeah, ok now people have to buy AR's instead of AK's. :rolleyes2:
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Oh, got it. So if guns are banned because of another political issue, its ok. Something something wolf in sheep's clothing and or FUDD.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Oh, got it. So if guns are banned because of another political issue, its ok. Something something wolf in sheep's clothing and or FUDD.
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Yes. That's exactly ok. Similar to how banning Cuban cigars wasn't because of a war on tobacco.

If a gun dealer doesn't pay taxes, and goes to jail for it, it's also not because they're "coming for ya guns!"

And on the Russia front, don't you think that if McCain/Palin won the last election, and Russia invaded Crimea, that after Palin did her yelling at Russia from her house in Alaska, and after McCain carpet-bombed some other country on the same continent that starts with the same letter but had nothing to do with it (sorry Romania), that McCain may have also boycotted imports from Russia?
 
deonb said:
Also, because of people's fear of what Obama would do, when Obama took office it created a MASSIVE boom for gun manufacturing.
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The boom was incredible, and not just for firearms, but for the entire shooting industry.
 
deonb said:
Yes. That's exactly ok. Similar to how banning Cuban cigars wasn't because of a war on tobacco.

If a gun dealer doesn't pay taxes, and goes to jail for it, it's also not because they're "coming for ya guns!"

And on the Russia front, don't you think that if McCain/Palin won the last election, and Russia invaded Crimea, that after Palin did her yelling at Russia from her house in Alaska, and after McCain carpet-bombed some other country on the same continent that starts with the same letter but had nothing to do with it (sorry Romania), that McCain may have also boycotted imports from Russia?
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You should stop getting your news from Saturday Night Live.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp
 
deonb said:
Lets say Donald Trump wins and passes a constitutional amendment ...
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Just to be clear - you do know that a president cannot pass a Constitutional amendment, right? The most they could do is ask Congress to pass a proposal for the States to ratify.
 
deonb said:
Yes. That's exactly ok. Similar to how banning Cuban cigars wasn't because of a war on tobacco.

If a gun dealer doesn't pay taxes, and goes to jail for it, it's also not because they're "coming for ya guns!"

And on the Russia front, don't you think that if McCain/Palin won the last election, and Russia invaded Crimea, that after Palin did her yelling at Russia from her house in Alaska, and after McCain carpet-bombed some other country on the same continent that starts with the same letter but had nothing to do with it (sorry Romania), that McCain may have also boycotted imports from Russia?
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You're a FUDD, 2nd amendment supporter only for limited personal use. You don't really support the 2nd amendment. Banning Russian imports was ridiculous, as if a few guns really gave them that much extra money to fight with. Hell, they were going to need the production for their own use anyway. But nobody, including the NRA, gave a ****, because it's Russian hardware. Same with the 7N6 ban, nobody wanted to go to bat for an illegal action by the government. But when the ban on M855/SS109 came out, every organization in the country was against it. No idea why SS109 was protected and 7N6 wasn't. Oh wait, I do know, because it's American and the letter organizations knew they could run the "Murica, F'Yeah" plan and win the public support.

But yeah, whatever makes you sleep at night. All I know is, the guns I prefer were banned from import from Russia.
 
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KSCessnaDriver said:
But yeah, whatever makes you sleep at night. All I know is, the guns I prefer were banned from import from Russia.
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Oh boo f'in hoo! When I took a trip to Europe back in the late '90s, I really, really wanted to bring one of these back with me as a souvenir as people were dumping them then for next to nothing.

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It turns out there is no way to import one of these and then actually drive it on the streets in the USA. I was denied. There are import restrictions on all kinds of products here. It is what it is.

Just because you can't buy a Russian, or Chinese gun does not make it a second amendment issue in any way. Organizations like the NRA have to pick their fights. This is not one of them.

Would I like to buy whatever products the world has to offer and enjoy them here? Hell yes I would. I wanted my Trabant!! Wouldn't mind a real Russian AK and a real Russian Makarov too, but trade restrictions are what they are and if you want to go after that, using the 2nd amendment as an argument isn't going to get anything done.
 
You should be able to import that POS all day long. Now, please don't drive it on the street :)
 
ja_user said:
You should be able to import that POS all day long. Now, please don't drive it on the street :)
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You can, but it can not be used on any public streets or roads. So you can drive it around your yard, or on other private property much like a golf cart. There was a time when you could import that car, register it and drive it anywhere you want just like there was a time you could buy Russian Makarovs and Chinese AKs, but the Feds put up barriers.
 
Dav8or said:
there was a time you could buy Russian Makarovs and Chinese AKs, but the Feds put up barriers.
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Early 90's, after the wall came down. I still have two Russian SKS's, and Russian, East German and Bulgarian Makarovs. Oh yeah, and a Polish P-83 which are currently available as I guess we don't have trade restrictions with Poland.

You can get American made AK's now using some foreign parts, and American receivers. You can also get some Russian, and Bulgarian clones, but they have to be modified to look like an AK because they've been "sporterized" for import.
 
Anthony said:
Early 90's, after the wall came down. I still have two Russian SKS's, and Russian, East German and Bulgarian Makarovs. Oh yeah, and a Polish P-83 which are currently available as I guess we don't have trade restrictions with Poland.

You can get American made AK's now using some foreign parts, and American receivers. You can also get some Russian, and Bulgarian clones, but they have to be modified to look like an AK because they've been "sporterized" for import.
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You can't get a real deal Izhmash AK pattern rifle anymore (the only true AK factory) because comrade obama said so. Which is a shame, because the barrels produced in Russia are orders of magnitude better than a US built AK barrel.
 
Dav8or said:
Oh boo f'in hoo! When I took a trip to Europe back in the late '90s, I really, really wanted to bring one of these back with me as a souvenir as people were dumping them then for next to nothing.

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It turns out there is no way to import one of these and then actually drive it on the streets in the USA. I was denied. There are import restrictions on all kinds of products here. It is what it is.

Just because you can't buy a Russian, or Chinese gun does not make it a second amendment issue in any way. Organizations like the NRA have to pick their fights. This is not one of them.

Would I like to buy whatever products the world has to offer and enjoy them here? Hell yes I would. I wanted my Trabant!! Wouldn't mind a real Russian AK and a real Russian Makarov too, but trade restrictions are what they are and if you want to go after that, using the 2nd amendment as an argument isn't going to get anything done.
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I have 4 real Russian AKs. Not being able to purchase more new is a bullcrap back door gun ban, done by executive order nonsense. But to think I'm just going after Obama is false. The BS that Bush pulled with the Chinese ban is crap too. Also, you can still get smoothbore Chinese firearms, just no ammo or pistols or rifles.

I thought cars that were 30 years or older were easy to import, hence why you see mostly 30+ year Unimogs, when you see them
 
Dav8or said:
Just because you can't buy a Russian, or Chinese gun does not make it a second amendment issue in any way.
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It does not infringe on one's right to keep and bear arms in any way? Albeit a small one.

Following that logic, just make it so you can't buy guns made anywhere. Still no second amendment issue?
 
FastEddieB said:
It does not infringe on one's right to keep and bear arms in any way? Albeit a small one.

Following that logic, just make it so you can't buy guns made anywhere. Still no second amendment issue?
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More likely: You can ONLY buy guns made by hand-picked crony crapitalist CEO's companies, all of whom happen to be 7-figure bundlers and donors to his O'ness' campaigns, presidential library, and eventual post-presidential foundation.

BTW, prices starts at $5k each, ammo is $250 per shell, and the waiting list is currently 6 years long.

"See, we're not anti-gun!"
 
FastEddieB said:
It does not infringe on one's right to keep and bear arms in any way? Albeit a small one.

Following that logic, just make it so you can't buy guns made anywhere. Still no second amendment issue?
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Same with ammo. Can't ban guns, ok, we will just start banning ammunition.
 
Anthony said:
Early 90's, after the wall came down. I still have two Russian SKS's, and Russian, East German and Bulgarian Makarovs. Oh yeah, and a Polish P-83 which are currently available as I guess we don't have trade restrictions with Poland.

You can get American made AK's now using some foreign parts, and American receivers. You can also get some Russian, and Bulgarian clones, but they have to be modified to look like an AK because they've been "sporterized" for import.
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Oh yeah, I'm OK. I have a very nice Hungarian AK variant that I bought back inthe '80s that is better made than the Russian ones and a very nice shooter. It would just be nice for collector purposes to have one that actually was made in Russia.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
I thought cars that were 30 years or older were easy to import, hence why you see mostly 30+ year Unimogs, when you see them
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I think that is so. Old cars can be imported no problem. The Trabies I looked at over there at that time were all pretty much less than 10 years old at that time. Maybe enough time has passed now? I don't know, but I do know that they are nearly all gone over there now. It is what it is. Just a quirky souvenir that I could have a little fun with at home is all, not a life's passion or anything.
 
FastEddieB said:
It does not infringe on one's right to keep and bear arms in any way? Albeit a small one.

Following that logic, just make it so you can't buy guns made anywhere. Still no second amendment issue?
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No, that's a different issue and a silly argument. There are currently thousands of different guns available to US buyers. Not all of them brand new, but there are lots and lots of choices. These import bans are in no way infringing on anybodies ability to get a gun.

Do I think these bans are politically motivated by anti gun groups? Yes and no. In the case of the Chinese guns, absolutely!! The anti gun crowd became terrified by the flood of super dirt cheap Chinese guns like the SKS. Anybody could afford them and people were buying them just for the hell of it. The Harbor Freight of guns and Americans can't get enough of cheap Chinese junk. We love it!!

In the case of the Russian ban, I'm not so sure. I don't recall Russian guns being a big runaway hit like the SKS although the Makarovs were a good deal. I think primarily the ban is to keep funds from getting to a struggling Russian arms industry in light of more recent Russian aggression. Secondarily, the anti gun crowd never met a banned gun they didn't like, so it's an added bonus.

I am not in favor of these bans, but I can see how folks like the NRA aren't going to waste too much time on fighting it. Also given both Russia and China's threat to stability in the world, it might actually be a good idea to not be directly funding their small arms industry.
 
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