FFS. I need a new hobby.

moparrob66 said:
The two years spent becoming an A&P might be better spent on building an E-AB unless youre counting on going into business. Then you'll need insurance, business license(s), hangar space for dismantled aircraft waiting on unavailable parts, etc.
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I’d get the A&P not to open my own shop but just for a fun thing to do in retirement. Plus the benefit of being able to do more things on my aircraft myself. If I really get bored maybe work for a shop part time. Seems like there is an A&P shortage for GA, so I might have a shot at that.
 
Back to thread topic. Is locktite not allowed? Orange should have kept that snug.
 
WDD said:
Back to thread topic. Is locktite not allowed? Orange should have kept that snug.
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On the contrary. The service instruction specifies locktite 290.
 
Jim K said:
On the contrary. The service instruction specifies locktite 290.
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That is hard core. I wonder if they missed that, or assembled it without it being clean ???
 
I was able to visit my plane today. Here's a macro shot I took of the shaft. Not sure if it really tells anything different though.

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I was gonna stay out of it but since you @ me.... Sincerely sorry to hear of this repeated bout with a hobby that won't love you back. As you've seen, the "it is what it is" down-puncher club is out in full force. I've already said my peace on that cohort, so I digress.

In my world view, recreation comes with challenges, but the cathartic value should be a net positive at the end of the day. There's nothing enjoyable nor redeemable to me about the expense/dispatch situation you've described. But I'm me, I'm not you.

I wish you good luck with it regardless of whatever direction you choose to take. Glad you caught issues on the ground. Do keep yourself and your fam safe as you proceed. Cheers mate.
 
Jim K said:
I was able to visit my plane today. Here's a macro shot I took of the shaft. Not sure if it really tells anything different though.

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I'd be more interested on the threads of the set screw to see if he used loctite. Can't quite tell in the other picture of its green loctite or oil.
 
Racerx said:
I'd be more interested on the threads of the set screw to see if he used loctite. Can't quite tell in the other picture of its green loctite or oil.
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You beat me to the punch on this. I didn’t see any.
 
Racerx said:
I'd be more interested on the threads of the set screw to see if he used loctite. Can't quite tell in the other picture of its green loctite or oil.
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Yeah, looks like oil to me, but the borescope just doesn't have the resolution to tell for sure. Jim (my mechanic, not me referring to myself ala bob dole) tried to wiggle it with a pick and said it didn't move. I wouldn't expect it to, but it isn't loosey goosey. You can see the bottom of it from outside the engine. If i remember I might take my dslr up there and see if I can get more detail on it.
 
Jim K said:
Jim (my mechanic, not me referring to myself ala bob dole)
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The only thing I know about Bob Dole is he was in that Pepsi commercial with Brittney Spears.
 
moparrob66 said:
Thats a good idea....Cherokee 6 full of tools and parts?
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Be kind of a tight squeeze to take your jacks, engine hoist and compressor with you. Then again you could upgrade to a Shorts SkyVan or Caravan?

Most successful traveling mechanics usually use a tandem-axle enclosed trailer sent up as a mobile workshop.
 
nrpetersen said:
As a retired MechEngr with a lot of fatigue experience, the combination of Loctite with a short thread and a set screw application is a very desperate design. Don't know the application tho.
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I’m sorry you’re tired all the time. And that is a bad Dad Joke I’m sure you’re tired of.

Back on topic - bad design aside, should not that strong of locktite used have kept that secure?
 
It seems like all owners are standing out on a vast prairie as thunderstorms roll by, never knowing if the next one will get us or our neighbor - or nobody, with that lightning strike.
I remember being struck, in 2020 when my crankshaft failed. It's a lonely feeling of despair. It's crazy expensive in some cases (low six-figures, here). If we survive with our lives and only incredible expense, we are lucky.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
It seems like all owners are standing out on a vast prairie as thunderstorms roll by, never knowing if the next one will get us or our neighbor - or nobody, with that lightning strike.
I remember being struck, in 2020 when my crankshaft failed. It's a lonely feeling of despair. It's crazy expensive in some cases (low six-figures, here). If we survive with our lives and only incredible expense, we are lucky.
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Every flight... there seems to be a few moments when the engine sounds a little bit different or the vibrations aren't quite the same. I'm always thinking... is this the day it happens? And then the gauges all continue to read in their normal ranges and the airplane flies along to the destination without incident.
 
Really sorry to hear this! I’m hoping you can get it sorted and back up soon. Seems like a very simple system that “should have “ lasted for a long time if not forever.
 
cowman said:
Every flight... there seems to be a few moments when the engine sounds a little bit different or the vibrations aren't quite the same. I'm always thinking... is this the day it happens? And then the gauges all continue to read in their normal ranges and the airplane flies along to the destination without incident.
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And at night…every noise is sus!
 
Sorry to hear about your repeated shaft failure.....Phrasing???

I hope you can find someone competent to repair it this time. Regrading the last guy....I am reminded of the movie Ransom starring Mel Gibson. IN this movie he plays a wealthy businessman whos so is kidnapped. Instead of giving them the several million dollar ransom, he goes on tv with the cash and offers it as reward for whomever turns in the kidnappers and gets his son back.

I am kind of petty, so i would be informing, or perhaps my lawyer, would be informing the previous mechanic of my intent to not pay to repair/rebuild the engine again. No. Instead, I will be using all that money and perhaps even 2-3x the value of it to SUE THE F#&*&(^ING life out of you. End the call with Good day sir....as its always nice to be polite to someone, even if you intend to disembowel them.
 
I have a brilliant new business idea. Why do people have to pay for tie down and hangar for an entire year when one's plane is spending half the time at the A&P?

Introducing "My Broken Axx Expensive Plane is at the Mechanic Again While I'm also Paying for this Over Priced Empty Airport Storage Locker - Hangar Time Share!"

All the joys of as well as the financial obligations a normal Vacation Time Share that you've come to know, but on steroids!

Can't predict which part of the half year your plane will be at the shop? No worries! Just drop if off in any working condition. The mechanics will easily be able to find something equivalent to a semester of college tuition.

Operators are standing by - call now!

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Hey - it's one of those days I'm venting...... Did I mention I'm getting three cylinders overhauled, and a new oil pan gasket for the leak the pre buy guy somehow missed?

Edit - now lets add welding a crack on an exhaust runner to the list. I did a pre buy why?
 
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WDD said:
I have a brilliant new business idea. Why do people have to pay for tie down and hangar for an entire year when one's plane is spending half the time at the A&P?

Introducing "My Broken Axx Expensive Plane is at the Mechanic Again While I'm also Paying for this Over Priced Empty Airport Storage Locker - Hangar Time Share!"

All the joys of as well as the financial obligations a normal Vacation Time Share that you've come to know, but on steroids!

Can't predict which part of the half year your plane will be at the shop? No worries! Just drop if off in any working condition. The mechanics will easily be able to find something equivalent to a semester of college tuition.

Operators are standing by - call now!

xxxxxxxxx
Hey - it's one of those days I'm venting...... Did I mention I'm getting three cylinders overhauled, and a new oil pan gasket for the leak the pre buy guy somehow missed?
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You wouldn't have any trouble filling a temporarily empty hanger around here. No special service needed. Facebook will do.
 
Not to belittle the topic, but it could be worse:
 
Apparently Lycoming is quoting October of 2026 for a rebuilt engine.

2 Years.

What. The. ****.
 
Lycoming has had long lead times for new and rebuilt engines for some time now. Independent shops can do better, but they too are probably at least 6 months depending on the ask (IRAN vs. 0 SMOH).
 
Steamflyer said:
Lycoming has had long lead times for new and rebuilt engines for some time now. Independent shops can do better, but they too are probably at least 6 months depending on the ask (IRAN vs. 0 SMOH).
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I have got to get my A&P. I’d take twice the time and have to buy a few expensive things, but I’m sure I can - with some paid help when get stuck - rebuild in less than 2 years.
 
How do you fly it without a dual mag?
 
At this point maybe you should just wait for the next hurricane and take the plane to visit a day or so before? lol. Just kidding…..
 
Jim K said:
Apparently Lycoming is quoting October of 2026 for a rebuilt engine.
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What are they quoting on a factory overhaul?

Half Fast said:
Going out of business?
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The commercial side has been pre-buying engine production slots since covid especially with certain engine models. Don't know the fixed-wing side but on the helicopter side there are several support shops that own over 2 dozen slots. The average private owner orders are simply put in the queue. Especially with certain models.

WDD said:
I’d take twice the time and have to buy a few expensive things, but I’m sure I can - with some paid help when get stuck - rebuild in less than 2 years.
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Technically it would be an overhaul not a rebuild, but Lycoming has a higher requirement than field work so you could probably O/H it in less time.
 
Bell206 said:
What are they quoting on a factory overhaul?
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Didn't ask about that as my understanding is that they will exchange the K1G5D with a K1G5 only if you buy new or "rebuilt", not "overhauled".
 
Sorry to hear the issues. It is disheartening to read, I cant imagine how it feels living through it. Is it worth parting out this plane and buying a different one? It might be quicker getting back in the air.
 
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