Princesspilot206
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Please explain why the fire chief of Lake Lure did what he did...
If one’s going-in assumption is the government is incompetent (at any level and in any “color” state/region, by the way), that’s what one will see.No good deed goes unpunished. Perfect example of "We're from the gov't and we're here to help"
Sometimes the shoe fits.If one
If one’s going-in assumption is the government is incompetent (at any level and in any “color” state/region, by the way), that’s what one will see.
Similarly, if one’s going-in assumption is that all PoA members are douche-nozzles, that’s also what one will see.
We should be careful with assumptions of all types.
Exactly what I heard too, so for the news today at the gym to say the NC governor is applauding that the federal government is doing a great job, I highly doubt that.I've got great stories from the evacuation of Children's Hospital, N.O., in the aftermath of Katrina. My good friend, in charge of the operation on the hospital side, said FEMA was a total incompetent clown show.
Occam's razorSometimes the shoe fits.
if one’s going-in assumption is that all PoA members are douche-nozzles, that’s also what one will see.
#factsSometimes the shoe fits.
ThatWe are getting one side of the story.
They are looking at the area for the news story after-the-fact. TFR may not have been in place at the time of his efforts.I wonder if the red circle you can see on his tablet around 1:09 is a TFR he was supposed to stay out of. If so, I’d hope most pilots on here would have a different take on this…
He said that he wouldn't have but for the TFR that went up 20 minutes after their conversation.I’m NOT faulting that guy, but don’t think I’d have listened to the fire chief…
I've got great stories from the evacuation of Children's Hospital, N.O., in the aftermath of Katrina. My good friend, in charge of the operation on the hospital side, said FEMA was a total incompetent clown show.
Katrina was almost 20 years ago, so I wouldn't make assumptions based on thatExactly what I heard too, so for the news today at the gym to say the NC governor is applauding that the federal government is doing a great job, I highly doubt that.
Bias Note: I used to be a federal government employee.
When you are operating a helicopter around people who have never been around them, having a second set of experienced eyes and hands makes a difference keeping people away from the dangerous spinning things.Yeah, OK - the guy’s kid was back there. Did the kid really need to be on the adventure at all? I don’t think so, personally.
Not to mention having a second set of eyes to look for obstructions in an unfamiliar area, as well as looking for people in distress. I don't see a thing wrong with it.When you are operating a helicopter around people who have never been around them, having a second set of experienced eyes and hands makes a difference keeping people away from the dangerous spinning things.
Youtube celebrity Cleetus McFarland had his wife riding shotgun in his Hughes 500 clearing the tail rotor into some tricky confined areas.
Oh, yeah….FEMA is soooo much better now!Katrina was almost 20 years ago, so I wouldn't make assumptions based on that
After Harvey, I loaded up my plane with supplies and headed down to a small town near the Gulf that was cut off by flooding. They were grateful.There are organized operations. There are calls out at the airports here in central here for the supplies needed and pilots moving from those collection points to the places needed. There's a far cry from loading up your plane with stuff you "think" are needed and flying to some place you "think" will need them rather than asking those working on the problem how you can help.
I have to wonder if you actually listened to the guys story and watched the video. If you did, you weren’t paying very good attention, and / or you don’t understand helicopter operations.Yeah, OK - the guy’s kid was back there. Did the kid really need to be on the adventure at all? I don’t think so, personally.
This is one reason people die waiting for rescue. Too many people sit around assuming somebody else (the government) has it covered.There are organized operations. There are calls out at the airports here in central here for the supplies needed and pilots moving from those collection points to the places needed. There's a far cry from loading up your plane with stuff you "think" are needed and flying to some place you "think" will need them rather than asking those working on the problem how you can help.
I don’t recall the hurricane name, but I flew 500 pounds of bottled water into Louisiana to some very grateful people that were still cut off days after the storm hit. It was an organized effort, but was NOT a government effort.After Harvey, I loaded up my plane with supplies and headed down to a small town near the Gulf that was cut off by flooding. They were grateful.
Leadership is tasked with delegating tasks especially in an emergency situation. Given the story did not name the leadership could be one issue as well. (Unverified story?)I have zero respect for any organized rescue effort that spends time and effort to refuse help from volunteers. In what world would you be organizing a rescue effort and be handed a helicopter out of the blue and tell them to go away?
Unless I see evidence that the heli pilot was intentionally disruptive, I’m siding with him.
"Wouldn't make assumptions" means exactly that. Wouldn't assume it's better, wouldn't assume it's worse, wouldn't assume it's the same.Oh, yeah….FEMA is soooo much better now!
Agreed percentI have zero respect for any organized rescue effort that spends time and effort to refuse help from volunteers. In what world would you be organizing a rescue effort and be handed a helicopter out of the blue and tell them to go away?
Unless I see evidence that the heli pilot was intentionally disruptive, I’m siding with him.
IMHO: nothing wrong about wanting current information to make an informed judgment."Wouldn't make assumptions" means exactly that. Wouldn't assume it's better, wouldn't assume it's worse, wouldn't assume it's the same.
Whats so terrible about wanting current information?