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luvflyin

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I’m planning a trip to a baseball game. The Stadium is cashless. Anyone been to one of those? I’m wondering about the walking vendors. Are they running credit cards?

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Yep, they can run a card. :)
 
Several I've been in you order your food and beverages via an app. You just put your credit card in once in the app and you can use it all game long.
 
GaryM said:
I’m picturing passing your card down the row through six pairs of hands, it gets scanned, passed back through six pairs of hands, and then the vendor throws you your bag of peanuts.
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I been to games where ya do it that way passin’ cash. Passin’ a card would work but it seems the time taking to run the card would be tedious.
 
"THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE"

guess that doesn't mean what it actually says...

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Bob Noel said:
"THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE"

guess that doesn't mean what it actually says...

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It doesn't mean what you think it means.

From the Fed itself:

www.federalreserve.gov

Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.
www.federalreserve.gov

Buying a hot dog is not creating a debt, it's entering a contract. Customers and vendors are free to set terms for a contract that are acceptable to both sides, or not enter the contract at all.
 
RussR said:
It doesn't mean what you think it means.

From the Fed itself:

www.federalreserve.gov

Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.
www.federalreserve.gov

Buying a hot dog is not creating a debt, it's entering a contract. Customers and vendors are free to set terms for a contract that are acceptable to both sides, or not enter the contract at all.
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But once I have hot dog in hand, I do owe a debt.
 
It appears we now have two qualified candidates for the Federal Reserve Board appointments who can rewrite that statement by the Board about use of cash :biggrin:
 
Bob Noel said:
"THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE"

guess that doesn't mean what it actually says...

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All that phrase means is that if someone wants to accept it, they are assured that it’s real money. Nothing says they shall have to take cash - not on the dollar bull itself, not anywhere in statutory or case law.

Personally, I vastly prefer using a card or Apple Pay. More convenient, don’t need to stuff my wallet with a wad of paper, and I don’t get money back at Costco by paying cash.
 
ateamer said:
All that phrase means is that if someone wants to accept it, they are assured that it’s real money. Nothing says they shall have to take cash - not on the dollar bull itself, not anywhere in statutory or case law.

Personally, I vastly prefer using a card or Apple Pay. More convenient, don’t need to stuff my wallet with a wad of paper, and I don’t get money back at Costco by paying cash.
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That tap to pay with your phone is great until it takes you 15 minutes in the drive thru because your phone won't talk to the card reader and you end up having to park and go inside because you don't have the physical card because tap to pay is so convenient...whereas it took me less than two minutes to pay and leave with my outdated wad of paper. I guess I'm just too much of a peasant because I've never had so much cash in my wallet that it became an issue. :cool:
 
luvflyin said:
I’m planning a trip to a baseball game. The Stadium is cashless. Anyone been to one of those? I’m wondering about the walking vendors. Are they running credit cards?

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Yep. They'll either pass the little machine down to you (so you can add a tip) or you'll pass a card (or tap-to-pay phone) down to them (and you can tell them to add a tip - or not). Tap-to-Pay card or phone is a lot faster than the insert and wait method, FYI.

As also mentioned, I think a lot of parks have at least a subset of the stationary food vendors available to order on an app (MLB Ballpark app) and you can either pick it up or have it delivered to your seat. I haven't tried this method yet. The Braves are so frustrating this year, I need to get up and walk away from the game sometimes.
 
SkyChaser said:
That tap to pay with your phone is great until it takes you 15 minutes in the drive thru because your phone won't talk to the card reader and you end up having to park and go inside because you don't have the physical card because tap to pay is so convenient...whereas it took me less than two minutes to pay and leave with my outdated wad of paper. I guess I'm just too much of a peasant because I've never had so much cash in my wallet that it became an issue. :cool:
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For whatever reason, our Home Depot doesn't do tap-to-pay, either. I've had several instances of running in to grab something quick mid-project and realizing that I didn't grab my wallet as I ran out the door, then have the pleasure of remembering that I can't just scan my phone like 99% of other checkouts. Luckily, I usually keep $20-40 squirreled away in my truck (mostly for the 'oh crap' moments in drive through that you mentioned).
 
Bob Noel said:
Sure it is

Debt is something owed or due
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EdFred said:
But once I have hot dog in hand, I do owe a debt.
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I'm not a lawyer, or an accountant, banker or any of that. But I can search the internet, and while I found many articles about this topic on reddit and quora and wikipedia and such, I figured straight from the Federal Reserve would be a pretty credible source. Clearly businesses are NOT required to accept cash, and this is because the words "legal tender" have a very specific meaning that is not necessarily obvious to laypeople like myself.
 
My question is why would a person want to pay to sit in a stadium and watch millionaires play with balls.??

I get more entertainment watching peewee football and little league baseball. No telling what is going to happen. One pee wee football game there was a fumble. And someone knocked the box holding the extra footballs over, spilling 4 balls onto the field along with the one in play. One team recovered 3 balls, the other team recovered 2 balls.

Timeout while the refs hold a meeting. The ball was awarded to the team that recovered 3 balls...

Nothing like watching a little league game where one pitcher throws a no hitter game, and loses 14 to 12....
 
Zeldman said:
My question is why would a person want to pay to sit in a stadium and watch millionaires play with balls.??

I get more entertainment watching peewee football and little league baseball. No telling what is going to happen. One pee wee football game there was a fumble. And someone knocked the box holding the extra footballs over, spilling 4 balls onto the field along with the one in play. One team recovered 3 balls, the other team recovered 2 balls.

Timeout while the refs hold a meeting. The ball was awarded to the team that recovered 3 balls...

Nothing like watching a little league game where one pitcher throws a no hitter game, and loses 14 to 12....
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the LLWS is fun af to watch (and going on now). but I do enjoy going to a pro baseball game. not with current pricing, but overall it's a fun experience.
 
SkyChaser said:
That tap to pay with your phone is great until it takes you 15 minutes in the drive thru because your phone won't talk to the card reader and you end up having to park and go inside because you don't have the physical card because tap to pay is so convenient...whereas it took me less than two minutes to pay and leave with my outdated wad of paper. I guess I'm just too much of a peasant because I've never had so much cash in my wallet that it became an issue. :cool:
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That's great until you go to one of the increasing number of places that don't take cash. Or you lose your wallet. Or you forget it at home.

I guess maybe both have their places....
 
If you happen to get the hot dog and not pay, do you think that the vendor would think you owe him a debt? Or just think that you breached a contract with him?
 
Most of the MLB stadiums want you to use the MLB app on your phone to order your food and have it delivered to your seat. Pay via the app and you're good to go. It's like that with the minor leagues as well, but they use the MiLB app. Even OU does it at their football stadium. I don't have any issues with it, and I'm sure it drives more sales as people don't have to fight the lines at the concession stands as much.
 
Zeldman said:
My question is why would a person want to pay to sit in a stadium and watch millionaires play with balls.??
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That's why I like minor league better. The admission is next to nothing, the beer is cheap. You can talk to the players and scream at the officials and they'll hear you. You're within feet of the action.
 
flyingron said:
That's why I like minor league better. The admission is next to nothing, the beer is cheap. You can talk to the players and scream at the officials and they'll hear you. You're within feet of the action.
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Agree. There's a Cass A farm team (Dayton Dragons) of the Reds less than an hour from Cincinnati. I used to have season tix to the Dragons to watch kids trying to make the bigs so they could become overpaid oafs like the MLB Players. Never a desire to see the Reds. I stopped going when the Dragons lawyers or their insurance company made them put up two story netting from Home Plate all the way down to the foul poles at the Right and Left field walls. If I wanted to see performers in a cage, I would go to the Zoo.
 
DaleB said:
I don’t recall that I’ve ever had a vendor-supplied hot dog in my hand until after the vendor was paid.
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This is why you save all your expired cards, and you just go through card after card, and get the vendor to hand you the dog while they are running card number four. Boom. Debt achieved.
 
EdFred said:
This is why you save all your expired cards, and you just go through card after card, and get the vendor to hand you the dog while they are running card number four. Boom. Debt achieved.
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You must really want that hot dog.

Nauga,
and a death dog on wheels
 
Electric cars …can be controlled remotely
No cash just cards etc… transactions can be controlled remotely

Etc**

**conspiracy theory (or future truth) - heard over the weekend. No alcohol involved
 
flyingron said:
That's why I like minor league better. The admission is next to nothing, the beer is cheap. You can talk to the players and scream at the officials and they'll hear you. You're within feet of the action.
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If there were a minor league team within 2 hrs (that's about what it takes for me to get to the north side of ATL 44 miles away anyway) of here, I would absolutely have season tickets. I think they're moving the Mississippi Braves to Columbus, which is double-A, so slightly better than HS, but very rare to see someone go directly to the 'show' from there. I think I'm on the waiting list for tickets there.
 
I don't get the point of Apple Pay. How is it more convenient than using a contact chip credit card?
 
I'm all about minor league baseball. Three buddies and I used to take a baseball trip every summer for 14 years. I've been to over 50 Minor League parks and about 15 of the Major League parks. Much prefer minor league - no millionaires, no "attitudes" and we got to see some solid baseball.
 
Sac Arrow said:
I don't get the point of Apple Pay. How is it more convenient than using a contact chip credit card?
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It's for most people easier than trying to reach for the wallet. It's typically already in their hands.
 
Baseball is boring. The Savannah Bananas. Now that’s real entertainment. :p
 
carrying a credit card is much easier than carrying a phone and I can't get airline miles with cash. I have yet to see self serve fuel island that takes cash. I will often purposely go out without a phone, while my job requires that i be available and reachable when working, my personal life does not making the credit card preferable (especially since i am terrible about keeping my phone charged). And i have had to use the credit card's consumer protection on two occasions to get a refund that the vendor wouldn't provide with surprisingly little effort, I don't think the federal govt offers that.

As for baseball, I prefer minor league for the random atmosphere but, the quality of play in mlb is enjoyable. I probably enjoy the social aspect of going to sporting events more than watching.
 
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