Ways to Mount iPad in the Cockpit?

denverpilot said:
Compass and DG match the runway number on final. Don't need a fancy iPad for that! :)
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Yeah but some of us are pretty green and forget obvious stuff like that. I called the wrong runway approaching a few airfields already, or called the right one and headed for the wrong one.
 
eMKay said:
Yeah but some of us are pretty green and forget obvious stuff like that. I called the wrong runway approaching a few airfields already, or called the right one and headed for the wrong one.
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I am as green as they come.
 
Interesting update:

I emailed the owner of the competition (G-mounts also have an iPad mount) about the RAM / G-Mount issue and here was his very nice reply:

"
Thanks for writing, Kimberly.

RAM makes a good iPad cradle; I use the same one on the GF260 iPad Mount. RAM insists the iPad will survive on a single base. I and a thousand pilots disagree. On paper, the weight of the iPad lies within a single-foot’s capacity. However the size of the device causes it to develop pendulum swing when turbulence is present. In an airplane, that’s all the time. The cradle, itself, adds to that moment. It adds half a pound to the mass. That poses problems when you’re trying to poke at the iPad with your fingertip, because the point you’re trying to hit may no longer be under your finger when the event occurs.

I developed the iPad Mount in the cockpit, and chose the G-Force Twin-Foot platform for its stability. I had to re-educate the market in the beginning –thanks to RAM’s Pollyanna engineering- but all my customers now agree: The GF260 is a stronger design. In fact, in performance tests, the GF2 Mount withstood 16.38-Gs within a deflection range of two inches. RAM cannot make this claim.

In real time, the GF260 will hold the weight of 37 iPads. RAM’s single-foot mount will not.

If yours was a GF270 CAM Mount, I would consider the upgrade. However, your mount offers only 14% of the parts needed to render a GF260. By the time you buy the other six parts, you’ll be at the price of a bonafide GF260.

I encourage you to buy the GF260. The iPad is a fabulous AV-NAV device. I have no experience with ForeFlight; but WingX Pro is astonishing. I believe your experience with your iPad will be more rewarding when supported by a G-Force Mount. And you can continue using your GF170 for photography.

The G-Force GF260 iPad Mount accommodates version-1, version-2, and (coming soon) version-3. I remain convinced, it is the last Mount you’ll buy for your iPad. If you don’t agree, I’ll give you your $70 back.

I hope to receive your order soon."
 
eMKay said:
Yeah but some of us are pretty green and forget obvious stuff like that. I called the wrong runway approaching a few airfields already, or called the right one and headed for the wrong one.
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We've all done it. Just a tip to make it easier not to. ;)

Another one...

"Landing ... [crap forgot the runway number]... Uhh... Eastbound." ;)
 
eMKay said:
Yeah but some of us are pretty green and forget obvious stuff like that. I called the wrong runway approaching a few airfields already, or called the right one and headed for the wrong one.
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Complacency will do it too. A few weeks ago at dusk I called left downwind for 24 at KIKW, then base, then final... then as the numbers came into view I had an "oh, crap" moment and announced short final.... 18. :redface:

The two really dumb things I did were (1) not activating the PCL because I thought it was still light enough to see everything I needed to see (yeah, right) and (2) not double checking my heading on downwind against the HSI. And I'm the one who always says to cross-reference the instruments... I'd probably flown right over 24 without seeing it. Wake-up call for me, that's for sure.
 
azure said:
Complacency will do it too. A few weeks ago at dusk I called left downwind for 24 at KIKW, then base, then final... then as the numbers came into view I had an "oh, crap" moment and announced short final.... 18. :redface:

The two really dumb things I did were (1) not activating the PCL because I thought it was still light enough to see everything I needed to see (yeah, right) and (2) not double checking my heading on downwind against the HSI. And I'm the one who always says to cross-reference the instruments... I'd probably flown right over 24 without seeing it. Wake-up call for me, that's for sure.
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What is PCL?
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
Oh. I never find that is any good, even in my newest rental. The red LED on my headlamp, though dorky, aims right at whatever instrument I'm looking at.
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He's talking about the runway lights. The type you have to click the mic on a specific radio frequency to turn on.
 
Yes, sorry I meant the runway lights... they're pilot controlled with mic clicks on the CTAF frequency, so in NOTAMs and such they're referred to as PCL.

And oh, yes, Nate, I'm a she. ;)

(Unless you were referring to Henning.)
 
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kimberlyanne546 said:
Interesting update:

I emailed the owner of the competition (G-mounts also have an iPad mount) about the RAM / G-Mount issue and here was his very nice reply:

"
Thanks for writing, Kimberly.

RAM makes a good iPad cradle; I use the same one on the GF260 iPad Mount. RAM insists the iPad will survive on a single base. I and a thousand pilots disagree. On paper, the weight of the iPad lies within a single-foot’s capacity. However the size of the device causes it to develop pendulum swing when turbulence is present. In an airplane, that’s all the time. The cradle, itself, adds to that moment. It adds half a pound to the mass. That poses problems when you’re trying to poke at the iPad with your fingertip, because the point you’re trying to hit may no longer be under your finger when the event occurs.

I developed the iPad Mount in the cockpit, and chose the G-Force Twin-Foot platform for its stability. I had to re-educate the market in the beginning –thanks to RAM’s Pollyanna engineering- but all my customers now agree: The GF260 is a stronger design. In fact, in performance tests, the GF2 Mount withstood 16.38-Gs within a deflection range of two inches. RAM cannot make this claim.

In real time, the GF260 will hold the weight of 37 iPads. RAM’s single-foot mount will not.

If yours was a GF270 CAM Mount, I would consider the upgrade. However, your mount offers only 14% of the parts needed to render a GF260. By the time you buy the other six parts, you’ll be at the price of a bonafide GF260.

I encourage you to buy the GF260. The iPad is a fabulous AV-NAV device. I have no experience with ForeFlight; but WingX Pro is astonishing. I believe your experience with your iPad will be more rewarding when supported by a G-Force Mount. And you can continue using your GF170 for photography.

The G-Force GF260 iPad Mount accommodates version-1, version-2, and (coming soon) version-3. I remain convinced, it is the last Mount you’ll buy for your iPad. If you don’t agree, I’ll give you your $70 back.

I hope to receive your order soon."
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I don't know if I buy that answer - I use a RAM single-suction-cup mount for my iPad and it has NEVER come off in turbulence - It's quite sturdy, and in fact I wouldn't want it to be stronger as I would imagine that if it got any stronger the aircraft window would take damage before the iPad came unglued, and that'd be mighty expensive and scary.

He does use the RAM cradle, it appears.

All that said, it sounds like the price is right and he's willing to stand behind it, so you might as well give it a try!
 
flyingcheesehead said:
I don't know if I buy that answer - I use a RAM single-suction-cup mount for my iPad and it has NEVER come off in turbulence - It's quite sturdy, and in fact I wouldn't want it to be stronger as I would imagine that if it got any stronger the aircraft window would take damage before the iPad came unglued, and that'd be mighty expensive and scary.

He does use the RAM cradle, it appears.

All that said, it sounds like the price is right and he's willing to stand behind it, so you might as well give it a try!
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Not unless they are sold on Amazon. My friend gave me a birthday present of $50 gift card to Amazon (who does sell RAM mounts). That's incentive for me to go RAM.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
I don't know if I buy that answer - I use a RAM single-suction-cup mount for my iPad and it has NEVER come off in turbulence - It's quite sturdy, and in fact I wouldn't want it to be stronger as I would imagine that if it got any stronger the aircraft window would take damage before the iPad came unglued, and that'd be mighty expensive and scary.
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Considering the RAM suction mounts are what most folks are using to externally mount GoPro cameras to airplanes, I would say that is pure BS.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
Oh. I never find that is any good, even in my newest rental. The red LED on my headlamp, though dorky, aims right at whatever instrument I'm looking at.
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I think he meant the runway lights that you can activate from your plane. (Of course, I'm coming in halfway thru a conversation & I have not done a night flight yet, so I could be wrong). :skeptical:
 
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kimberlyanne546 said:
What pictures? The only ones I posted were of a camera mount, and I doubt that made your week better. I think you are thanking me for the baby photos that another POA member posted and I quoted. I have no babies.
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That's right. Thanks for quoting them on this thread. I probably would have not seen them otherwise.
 
Henning said:
There is a reason God likes us blondes best....:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Hey now. My two closest small airports (and mine) have night runway lights on (no clicking needed). So I forgot what a PCL was.... I think I read that as "panel controlled lighting" for some reason.

Also, I'm a brunette who goes to a hair dresser. She makes me blonde.
 
I have the RAM suction cup mount for my iPad, as well as the glareshield clamp mount. But, I've yet to find a glareshield the clamp will fit on.:mad:
I've had the suction cup come loose and fall off in flight once, and it wasn't even bad turbulence. When flying alone, I use the suction cup attached to the passenger window, in the 150, 172 and Warrior. When flying with a passenger, I just make them hold it!
 
You turned the little latch to activate the suction cup, right? (They don't come with instructions, and I've seen people just slap them up and they fall off... not trying to say you did or anything... but a lot of people seem to miss that the suction mount from RAM has a "switch" like ring around the base that you twist to actually suction it onto the surface...)
 
Nate, yeah, I did flip the latch. IIRC, it was a pretty cold day, so who knows if that was a factor.
 
Interesting. Mine sucks down so tight that even after flipping the latch to get it off, I have to pull pretty hard to dislodge it. I haven't looked, are there different sizes? Mine's pretty big.
 
The thing about suction cups is any tiny leak will let them fall off. A scratch on the plexi is enough sometimes. It's a little gross, but rubbing a little oil on the suction cup first will help in a lot of cases. (Be nice and remember to clean the window after...

John
 
I think he misread your comment as saying they weren't strong, Kent. Even though you were saying they're very strong. ;)
 
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