Ways to Mount iPad in the Cockpit?

NaviatorMike said:
I'm currently working on some UI enhancements for Android Honeycomb devices. Once that's done I plan on adding more detailed information to the web site and releasing an updated user manual.

There is so much more I want to do with the app, but it will take some time to get there!
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Best of luck to you and your app! Although I plan on sticking with Apple for the time being there is a huge market for your product as you know.
 
NaviatorMike said:
This is quite the thread! lol

I am the developer of Naviator, and I just wanted to step in and say a few things.
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Thank you for your support of the Aviation and the Android platform! My new Android phone is arriving in the mail anyday now and I am REALLY looking forward to trying Naviator out. I fly with just paper sectionals and AFD right now. :hairraise:
 
weironfire said:
Have you guys seen this. It's awesome! www.thecrazycradle.com
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How about you just come out and honestly say that you created that product and think it'd work well. Pretending to just be someone saying that you like it is really lame and we see right through that.

Your only two posts in our community have been you spamming your product. That doesn't put you in a good light. Do you have any interest in participating or are you just on here to spam us?
 
SkyHog said:
Looks like cheap Chinese crap that will break within the first few uses.

I do not recommend this product.
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Well, it's probably not fair to not recommend it because it looks like it's cheap and will break soon. It may be quite durable.

However, I'm with you. I don't like it. ;)
 
Sorry to ressurect this thread, but I am looking for someone who has tried the RAM Cessna Seat Rail IPad mount. It looks as if it would not be stable.

Thanks for your input.

Doc
 
I have the seat rail mount in the C182 and it's firmly in place. The mount and flexible arm are pretty rugged, however the weight of the iPad does cause some movement when under way. Nothing that isn't manageable. The problem I have is that I've mounted it almost fully forward on the rails, and it takes some positioning to get everything clear of the yoke and throttle/prop controls. Usually results in taking up some room for anyone in the right seat. If I move the mount further aft, so as to get the iPad display roughly mid thigh of my seat position, I end up limited in seat movement for ingress/egress.
So far it works well for me during cruise flight, but when it comes time to maneuver or get busy, I just pull it back out of the way of everything. I'm only 5'8", and have the seat pretty far forward. A taller person wouldn't probably have the same issue I have. May purchase a yoke mount.
 
Thanks for the seat rail mount comments.

Now that I know it's solid, I have to see how it would position in my plane. Unlike a 182, my plane is really cramped and I'm worried about my flap lever being in the way of a seat rail mount.

I also need to see if a yoke mount is a viable option, again, there's not much room in one of these little planes.

Doc
 
SkyHog said:
Looks like cheap Chinese crap that will break within the first few uses.

I do not recommend this product.
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SkyHog said:
Looks like cheap Chinese crap that will break within the first few uses.

I do not recommend this product.
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My apologies, I have a few pilot friends of mine that referred me to let pilots know and that there is a need. I started my company to attack over inflated pricing and cheap products in accessories. This is completely universal. I realize the word universial has received a bad name because the usually suck. Distributors contact me and ask me to raise the price. I will not be a part of gouging consumers, nor will I want anyone to just buy my product. I want feedback but from people that need it and want to help me make it better. I will pose a challenge to you...you private investigaters that think i was in disguise on here send me an email referring this forum and I will send you one free. Now I ask you, does that sound like a low-life that just want to spam? Depending on the response I might have to limit quantities, so please put your username in the email as well. Again my apologies.
 
weironfire said:
My apologies, I have a few pilot friends of mine that referred me to let pilots know and that there is a need. I started my company to attack over inflated pricing and cheap products in accessories. This is completely universal. I realize the word universial has received a bad name because the usually suck. Distributors contact me and ask me to raise the price. I will not be a part of gouging consumers, nor will I want anyone to just buy my product. I want feedback but from people that need it and want to help me make it better. I will pose a challenge to you...you private investigaters that think i was in disguise on here send me an email referring this forum and I will send you one free. Now I ask you, does that sound like a low-life that just want to spam? Depending on the response I might have to limit quantities, so please put your username in the email as well. Again my apologies.
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Weir,

Thanks for the clarification. I will look at your product again.

Although I will continue to explore mounting options, just for information a friend of mine flew with an IPad before me and said that it works great just setting it in his lap. I didn't think this would work for me in my cramped plane. My wife gave me an IPad for Christmas and with it, a leather case with a blue tooth keyboard, which I am using to write this post.

The IPad flips over and lays flat above the keyboard and the leather back is underneath the flat IPad. The leather keeps it from slipping around on my lap.

So far this has worked GREAT! I am wide open to exploring mounting options because it seems to make for a more efficient cockpit if placed properly, but so far just throwing it on my lap with the leatherback keeping it in place is working very well.
 
weironfire said:
My apologies, I have a few pilot friends of mine that referred me to let pilots know and that there is a need. I started my company to attack over inflated pricing and cheap products in accessories. This is completely universal. I realize the word universial has received a bad name because the usually suck. Distributors contact me and ask me to raise the price. I will not be a part of gouging consumers, nor will I want anyone to just buy my product. I want feedback but from people that need it and want to help me make it better. I will pose a challenge to you...you private investigaters that think i was in disguise on here send me an email referring this forum and I will send you one free. Now I ask you, does that sound like a low-life that just want to spam? Depending on the response I might have to limit quantities, so please put your username in the email as well. Again my apologies.
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I will check it out, but the point remains. had you come here and said "I am selling this product." and didn't make it sound like you were just a user recommending it to others, it would have been a bigger hit here.
 
You guys are right, I should have clearly stated who was. I am sorry.
 
MBDiagMan said:
Weir,

Thanks for the clarification. I will look at your product again.

Although I will continue to explore mounting options, just for information a friend of mine flew with an IPad before me and said that it works great just setting it in his lap. I didn't think this would work for me in my cramped plane. My wife gave me an IPad for Christmas and with it, a leather case with a blue tooth keyboard, which I am using to write this post.

The IPad flips over and lays flat above the keyboard and the leather back is underneath the flat IPad. The leather keeps it from slipping around on my lap.

So far this has worked GREAT! I am wide open to exploring mounting options because it seems to make for a more efficient cockpit if placed properly, but so far just throwing it on my lap with the leatherback keeping it in place is working very well.
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Doc, does the 140 have johnson bar flaps? If not, the seat rail mount might work. I nixed the idea in my 170 because it looked like it would get in the way of reaching for the flaps.

Someone on another board had talked to a guy who tests for Foreflight and uses his iPad in a 120 regularly on a kneeboard type mount.
 
MBDiagMan said:
Weir,

Thanks for the clarification. I will look at your product again.

Although I will continue to explore mounting options, just for information a friend of mine flew with an IPad before me and said that it works great just setting it in his lap. I didn't think this would work for me in my cramped plane. My wife gave me an IPad for Christmas and with it, a leather case with a blue tooth keyboard, which I am using to write this post.

The IPad flips over and lays flat above the keyboard and the leather back is underneath the flat IPad. The leather keeps it from slipping around on my lap.

So far this has worked GREAT! I am wide open to exploring mounting options because it seems to make for a more efficient cockpit if placed properly, but so far just throwing it on my lap with the leatherback keeping it in place is working very well.
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Doc, I haven't flown 140, but I imagine the cockpit/front seat itself is fairly similar in size to the early 170. Here's a photo of the yoke mount in my 170:
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I just started playing around with the iPad this past week and haven't decided which mounting sytem I like best. I have the RAM yoke mount, a suction mount and a kneeboard. I got the variety because I fly alot of different planes. I can tell you that all three work in the 170. The photo shows the yoke mount, obviously. It is big, but I have full yoke movement with no problems and while the photo doesn't quite show it well, the yoke mount does not block any veiw of the panel. Off to the left is my Garmin 510 which is suction mounted to the lower left corner of the wind screen just forward of the door post.

The kneeboard works well too without interfering with the yoke.

I also have a suction mount that when I am flying long x-countries solo, I can attach to the right pax window and it keeps it within easy view/access to my right.
 
Fearless Tower said:
Doc, I haven't flown 140, but I imagine the cockpit/front seat itself is fairly similar in size to the early 170. Here's a photo of the yoke mount in my 170:
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I just started playing around with the iPad this past week and haven't decided which mounting sytem I like best. I have the RAM yoke mount, a suction mount and a kneeboard. I got the variety because I fly alot of different planes. I can tell you that all three work in the 170. The photo shows the yoke mount, obviously. It is big, but I have full yoke movement with no problems and while the photo doesn't quite show it well, the yoke mount does not block any veiw of the panel. Off to the left is my Garmin 510 which is suction mounted to the lower left corner of the wind screen just forward of the door post.

The kneeboard works well too without interfering with the yoke.

I also have a suction mount that when I am flying long x-countries solo, I can attach to the right pax window and it keeps it within easy view/access to my right.
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To answer your question, my 140 has 150 seats and rails. It does indeed have Johnson Bar flaps. For this reason I was considering the seat rail mount for the right rail of the right seat. The suction cup on the right window sounds interesting.

So far, my leather backed keyboard case keeps it very stable on my lap and works extremely well.

I am leary of the yoke mount for fear of it obscuring view of some instruments.
 
I fly a Cherokee and have my iPad an a Ram yoke mount like "Fearless Tower's" picture above. In pictures it looks like it would block some instruments but in reality mine does not. I love having mine on the yoke right in front of me.
 
I just got an old, used iPad as a gift and am subscribing to this thread so that I can come back to it when I'm ready to buy a mount. I haven't read the entire thread yet but a friend just gave me an early birthday present of $50 gift cert to Amazon so I wonder if I can use that. Last night with the sectional and checklist on my lap the checklist fell to my feet at the WORST time on final approach so I'm glad I didn't have the iPad in my lap! My pax was holding it.
 
Final approach is the perfect time. GUMPS and land. And you're not lost so you don't need the sectional. ;)
 
M20E4me said:
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DA20 with 430 and my Aera 560 and ipad 2 mounted via RAM to the Glass.

also, hello to all. I am new to the forum, but not to Aviation and already like the "chat" I see....As you see the WingX being used, I also have Foreflight, which I love. They both have pros/cons for me (a mostly VFR pilot). My Daughter insists on GPS aids for living room navigation :goofy:
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OMG I love the tiny headset, and it is pink, can you tell me where to get one / how much they cost?
 
denverpilot said:
Final approach is the perfect time. GUMPS and land. And you're not lost so you don't need the sectional. ;)
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Actually I usually am lost. That's the problem. One time (though it was at night so I couldn't see the numbers) after my first night XC with CFI - we taxi'd back and he asked me to read the lit taxiway signs to him. I swore out loud in the cockpit - I'd landed on the wrong runway while announcing on the CTAF that I was landing on a different one (untowered after 8pm)! So this is why I got the "full" version of Foreflight as a gift, for the runway / taxiway diagrams and the little airplane that tells you where you are. I really need to stop getting so backwards / turned around regarding runways. I think I have aviation dyslexia.
 
Compass and DG match the runway number on final. Don't need a fancy iPad for that! :)
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
I am dumber than I look.
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Haha. Nah. Just not enough tools in your bag of tricks yet. :)

Jesse could tell I needed chart work toward the end of what I'll dub, "The funnest week of 2011"... Heh...

So he wandered me off under the hood to Iowa.

A good way to make me just read the chart and just fly it.

I had no idea where we were going that day which is not my normal method of flight planning. ;)
 
New thought - I bought the suction cup mount (G Mount) a while ago for a camcorder for my solo flight. It worked great. Does RAM sell an iPad "holder" that on the back would have a "hole" the correct thread size of a tripod / camera / etc?

Here is what I bought:

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denverpilot said:
Haha. Nah. Just not enough tools in your bag of tricks yet. :)

Jesse could tell I needed chart work toward the end of what I'll dub, "The funnest week of 2011"... Heh...

So he wandered me off under the hood to Iowa.

A good way to make me just read the chart and just fly it.

I had no idea where we were going that day which is not my normal method of flight planning. ;)
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Ditto. Though I "splurged" last night and had a spur of the moment flight in my new rental, a 180hp conversion 172. Someone asked us all where we were flying and I said "I don't know". I got airborne, flew over a mountain to the West, went down to see a light house, followed the dark rocky coast line to the back / reverse side of the Golden Gate Bridge in the dark and then did a night Bay Tour in the best visibility / high pressure / clear sky conditions I've ever seen. Only reason I didn't get lost is because I followed the coast, and going back, I aimed for these huge "you can't miss" 500 foot lit antennas next to the Gnoss runways.

Lots of people want me to go to lots of "new" airports, but with my limited skills, I think getting REALLY familiar with where I am / my local area is a great idea too.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
New thought - I bought the suction cup mount (G Mount) a while ago for a camcorder for my solo flight. It worked great. Does RAM sell an iPad "holder" that on the back would have a "hole" the correct thread size of a tripod / camera / etc?

Here is what I bought:

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Kimberly, if that has the same size ball as Ram uses than you can just buy some Ram parts to use with that suction mount. Go to the Ram site to see all the available parts.
 
EppyGA said:
Kimberly, if that has the same size ball as Ram uses than you can just buy some Ram parts to use with that suction mount. Go to the Ram site to see all the available parts.
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That's a great idea but the site I bought my mount from is very basic (one page) and I don't think it talks about the size of its balls.

I emailed the owner / person who sent me my order confirmation last year. He has an iPad mount for $70 so I asked if I could buy parts of it and use it with his other mount that I purchased. We'll see what he says.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
That's a great idea but the site I bought my mount from is very basic (one page) and I don't think it talks about the size of its balls.

I emailed the owner / person who sent me my order confirmation last year. He has an iPad mount for $70 so I asked if I could buy parts of it and use it with his other mount that I purchased. We'll see what he says.
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If it is an actual RAM mount, all the parts are interchangeable.
 
MBDiagMan said:
I am leary of the yoke mount for fear of it obscuring view of some instruments.
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The photo doesn't quite do it justice, but because of the height of eye, the iPad does not block my view of anything on the panel...or at least anything significant. You might try to find someone who has a yoke mount and seeing if you can try it out in yours. Personally, for solo VFR stuff, I think I like the right window mount best, but not sure I like having to look to the side to read approach plates when I am IFR.
 
M20E4Me,

We don't care whether you choose WingX or Foreflight. The important thing is which one does your DAUGHTER prefer?:D

I've always heard that kids should be put at the controls early, so you are following correct procedure.

Thanks for posting the pictures Kim. I needed something like that to start my week!:wink2:
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
Actually I usually am lost. That's the problem. One time (though it was at night so I couldn't see the numbers) after my first night XC with CFI - we taxi'd back and he asked me to read the lit taxiway signs to him. I swore out loud in the cockpit - I'd landed on the wrong runway while announcing on the CTAF that I was landing on a different one (untowered after 8pm)! So this is why I got the "full" version of Foreflight as a gift, for the runway / taxiway diagrams and the little airplane that tells you where you are. I really need to stop getting so backwards / turned around regarding runways. I think I have aviation dyslexia.
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Not a big deal, you're not alone, I've done it, and I've heard plenty of others do it as well. Just a 'Doh' moment and we go on. Worst you did was make someone perk up and pay attention.
 
MBDiagMan said:
M20E4Me,

We don't care whether you choose WingX or Foreflight. The important thing is which one does your DAUGHTER prefer?:D

I've always heard that kids should be put at the controls early, so you are following correct procedure.

Thanks for posting the pictures Kim. I needed something like that to start my week!:wink2:
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I took my 9 year old nephew with me flying pipeline in an old PA12 that was so out of rig you had to stand on left rudder and hold right aileron to fly straight with the ball caged. First time I handed it to him (he was in back) he squared it right up and flew 100' up and followed the pipe off the right. After I got him used to a collection field I handled the power and trim and he did a fair job of landing even. Took another 16 yr old nephew up who couldn't keep the plane under control and told me to take it back a few seconds later. Why the difference? Who knows...:dunno: I notice it across the board though, some people I hand them the controls and after a few minutes of bobbing and weaving lightly they settle in and are good; most people though would prefer not to and many of them will never be comfortable at the controls. My mother for example, would never be a pilot; not for lack of ability, rather due to fear induced lack of desire. When you grew up on the receiving end of the Mighty 8th Air Force, you never get over the fear.
 
MBDiagMan said:
M20E4Me,

We don't care whether you choose WingX or Foreflight. The important thing is which one does your DAUGHTER prefer?:D

I've always heard that kids should be put at the controls early, so you are following correct procedure.

Thanks for posting the pictures Kim. I needed something like that to start my week!:wink2:
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What pictures? The only ones I posted were of a camera mount, and I doubt that made your week better. I think you are thanking me for the baby photos that another POA member posted and I quoted. I have no babies.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
What pictures? The only ones I posted were of a camera mount, and I doubt that made your week better. I think you are thanking me for the baby photos that another POA member posted and I quoted. I have no babies.
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Unless your user ID is M20E4Me, Doc wasn't talking to you.
 
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