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Why is it so hard to accept that a YouTuber made a high-speed low pass over his buddy's house and then when busted, lied to the FAA about it, and then when they didn't believe him, lied to YouTube about it?
Because the video shows…. Oh waitWhy is it so hard to accept that a YouTuber made a high-speed low pass over his buddy's house and then when busted, lied to the FAA about it, and then when they didn't believe him, lied to YouTube about it?
I saw something similar somewhere (cough..Gaston’s) when a Comanche went past at a pretty good clip. I think everyone had a realistic appraisal of its regulatory compliance, and I didn’t hear a single complaint. Weather or not you catch flak for things like that is all about the time, place, and audience.
Why is it so hard to accept that a YouTuber made a high-speed low pass over his buddy's house and then when busted, lied to the FAA about it, and then when they didn't believe him, lied to YouTube about it?
Meh...distinction without a difference.It's not hard to accept that. It's hard to accept that the judge found that inspection passes are not necessary. If they want to bust him for buzzing, charge him with that. Say to him "you were going way too fast for an inspection pass and there is no guide saying 60 degree turns are a proper way to do an inspection pass, we find that you were not doing an inspection pass, you were recklessly joyriding. 120 day suspension".
Meh...distinction without a difference.
HUUUUUUGE difference. If they say that inspection passes are illegal...
Well, I have some good news for you. He didn't.It's hard to accept that the judge found that inspection passes are not necessary.
Quote one case…just one…when someone else has been cited for just an inspection pass since Trent’s case, and I’ll agree with you.HUUUUUUGE difference. If they say that inspection passes are illegal, then they make flying less safe. If they say that buzzing your buddies house is illegal, then they are being consistent with the letter and spirit of the regs and previous enforcement actions.
Yes, but it's so much more fun to accuse the evil FAA of prohibiting inspection passes.I think the actual court documents make it pretty clear he's not being violated for choosing not to land. Since the FAA maintains that it wasn't a suitable landing spot, I'd expect they'd be even more interested in violating him had he actually gone through with the unsafe landing...
Nobody is saying inspection passes are illegal. But I think everyone agrees that you can't buzz over your buddy's house to "inspect" their pool as a landing site for your Twin Otter. And actually landing in the pool doesn't suddenly make it okay.
Ha! I wondered if anyone would get a kick out of that!
And yet this is EXACTLY what I got out of it.... great chance to teach people buzzing is stupid and making sure your planned landing location is reasonable and dont make anyone who may be close uncomfortable....
The FAA's charter is not to be "good guy mediator." And he's a repeat offender and a liar. The FAA should reward that by increasing his exposure? Lol indeed.Wow, lots of pretty strong opinions here. I admit I like TP videos and know a couple of his flying friends. I can see both sides on this - actual inspection or buzzing a friend and getting caught. In the end - both the FAA and TP lost a great chance to teach people buzzing is stupid and making sure your planned landing location is reasonable and dont make anyone who may be close uncomfortable. Had the FAA approached TP and explained they got a complaint and since he has a large following, lets make this an education experience for everyone. TP puts a meeting with the FAA and him - maybe even the bitching neighbor on a podcast. They all get to tell their side of the story - TP says he was just inspecting the landing site and understands the neighbors complaint. The FAA makes a point to tell everyone - flying is a privilege and use good judgment especially when flying anywhere near others. Everyone wins - TP without admitting anything says he will be more respectful, the neighbor learns that it is necessary to make an inspection pass and the FAA comes off as the good guy mediator.
...And he's a repeat offender and a liar.
Read the NTSB decision.Oof. Any background information on that? I've seen his videos and have always had a good time watching them. All I really know about him.
Read the NTSB decision.
I don't put much stock in commenters who comment on something they haven't read.Keep in mind what the NTSB puts as cause for most accidents:
Primary cause: Pilot's fault.
Oh, the airplane coming from together had nothing to do with it?
I don't put much stock in the NTSB when they default on their findings.
I don't put much stock in commenters who comment on something they haven't read.
Jeeze this whole incident should have been over and done with three years ago. Now we're gonna have a podcast?
I'm sick and tired of people being sick and tired about... oh wait, that's a Monty Python routine.
I’m sorry, this is Abuse, Arguments are down the hall to the left.And now, for something completely different.
I was just getting interested.I’m sorry, this is Abuse, Arguments are down the hall to the left.
No you weren’t.I was just getting interested.
You just won the internet for today!!!No you weren’t.
Respondent posits that the law judge misinterpreted § 91.119 in finding that a low inspection pass is not necessary for an off-airport landing, but the law judge did not issue such a finding. Rather, the law judge determined that respondent did not prove his affirmative defense that he met the prefatory clause – that his low inspection pass was necessary for landing during the November 24th flight. 297 The law judge reasoned that respondent had other alternatives for conducting the low inspection pass that did not violate the regulation by flying within 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure. Given that the law judge did not find that a low inspection pass is not necessary for an off-airport landing, he did not misinterpret the regulation as respondent suggests.
I have been reading the NTSB report and this jumped out (and seems relevant to the thread)
End of page 41 - 42...
Why can't it be both?I'd rather have threads evolve into Monty Python than devolve into 1930's central European politics...
...pilot to continue a landing that is unsafe."