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MarkH said:
I'm trying to use the "Ratings Progress" feature for my PPL.

But when I run it - these 2 don't check off:

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In spite of having a 207 nm XC, marked as solo time, with 4 Takeoffs - Towered Airport and 4 Landings - Towered Airport recorded. (I flew to a towered airport, did 3 laps around the pattern, then flew to a non-towered, then flew back to origin).

Does anyone know what fields these entries are looking for?

Edit: Longest leg is 78nm on the XC
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Did you fill in the "Landings" and "Landings - full stop day" or "Landings - full stop night" boxes? The ratings progress feature uses one of those boxes (I'm not sure if it's the full stop or general landings box) for these items, and does not care if you did them at a towered airport or not. It said I was done with my commercial night experience even though I knew that most of my night landings at that time were not accompanied with flight in the traffic pattern or an operating control tower.
 
Here's how I entered mine. Make sure you un-click the "hide details" button and put "full stop day" in. Like the other poster said, it doesn't track the towered requirementLogbook.jpg
 
MarkH said:
I'm trying to use the "Ratings Progress" feature for my PPL.
But when I run it - these 2 don't check off:

In spite of having a 207 nm XC, marked as solo time, with 4 Takeoffs - Towered Airport and 4 Landings - Towered Airport recorded. (I flew to a towered airport, did 3 laps around the pattern, then flew to a non-towered, then flew back to origin).
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Hi, Mark. Would need your email (send it privately to me!) to figure out precisely which account is you so that I could give you a more definitive answer for your flight, but here's what I'm looking for in 61.109(a)(5)(ii) and (iii):

for (ii) and (iii):
  • Real aircraft (i.e., sim flights don't count)
  • Single engine airplane
  • Solo time
For (ii), also need:
  • Distance (airport to airport, as computed with my airport locations in database) >= 150.0nm.*
  • One segment >= 50nm*
  • At least 3-full-stop landings recorded (this often messes people up). See my blog for a discussion of how to log landings. Note that it's NOT sufficient to log 3 landings, you have to specify a subset that is some combination of full-stop day and full-stop night that adds up to 3 or more.
*If you click on the route of flight on the website, it should show you these distances as I compute them.

For (iii), also need:
  • MIN(full-stop-day-landings + full-stop-night-landings, landings at a towered airport) >= 3. I.e., if you did 4 landings, you need to have indicated that at least 3 of those landings were full-stop (day or night) and you further have to indicate that at least 3 of those landings were at a towered airport.
I would bet the full-stop landings is what's biting you.
 
Thanks to everyone for the help, as Hang 4 pointed out, I had failed to mark the landings as full stop under the (show details) button.

It's working now.
 
Hello,

I'm new to the forum and pretty new to MyFlightBook. I love the website and product and I'm looking to use it to manage use of a shared airplane. One problem I have run into is with the online scheduler and Chrome. I can't seem to edit or delete schedule entries using Chrome. I can do so using Microsoft Edge. In Chrome, when I click on a time block instead of getting the the screen to edit or cancel, my mouse arrow changes to a 4 directional arrow and all I can do is move the scheduled time entry. Any ideas?

-Chris
 
Interesting: it works fine in Chrome on Mac, as well as in Safari on Mac. Even chrome on iOS works. It's just a windows thing. I wonder if there's some windows add-on/extension for chrome that's breaking it?
 
OK, now I'm puzzled. I can't reproduce it anywhere anymore. Two theories: (a) you and I had an outdated version of chrome that got updated with some fix, or (b) the click had a slight movement to it, which is what triggers drag vs. edit
 
EricBe said:
Interesting: it works fine in Chrome on Mac, as well as in Safari on Mac. Even chrome on iOS works. It's just a windows thing. I wonder if there's some windows add-on/extension for chrome that's breaking it?
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Hi Eric,

So I don't know what's up, but it's work for me now. I did try closing and reopening Chrome earlier without any success. I didn't have to reboot for it to work. Thank you for the quick response. One thing I also noticed today is it took a few minutes for changes to the airplane to show up in the club reports. I.e. I entered in an oil change date and it didn't show up in a club report until 30 minutes later or until I entered in a 100 hour, even though I technically didn't have a 100 hour, I was just trying to make the oil change record show up. Maybe that's a known issue that you are aware of.

If I can add other features requests. As others have already suggested, I would love a way to keep track of TACH time sensitive issues like A/D compliance. I've read the thread about your concerns about reliability of previously entered TACH times, but I'll take an imperfect solution over none. Second, if you could add a "oil measured" or "oil observed" flight property, that would be helpful to better track oil consumption among users of the airplane in addition to the already existing "oil added" flight property. Sadly my plane has a tendency to burn quart of oil every 3-4 hours.

-Chris
 
I'll have to look at the code, but sometimes there can be a delay due to the use of caching for performance - e.g., something is still using a cached version of the aircraft that is now slightly out of date; when the cache expires, it picks up the changes. Generally, this only happens if you're using multiple modes - e.g., the website and a mobile app. If you have a repro case, please let me know (offline - myflightbook@gmail.com; don't need to fill up this forum with that). That said, I'm pretty sure the club reports don't cache, so I don't know why it wouldn't show up there.

You can absolutely track things based on hobbs or tach (either one - it's just a number); indeed, my club does exactly that, using tach for some of its aircraft and hobbs for others. It's a bit buried, but you can always grab a high-watermark value of *either* hobbs or tach by going into your club's management page, clicking the Aircraft tab, then clicking "Edit" next to the aircraft; you'll see the high-watermark tach and hobbs and can choose which to fill in. That's computed across all flights in that aircraft by club members who have logged a tach or hobbs time.

I'm a little unclear on how "oil measured" would be used - at start of flight or end of flight? More to the point, I'm unclear what information does that offer that oil added doesn't? E.g., suppose "full" oil is 6 qts. If you measure 5qts, you're going to add a quart anyhow, so isn't "5qts measured" and "1qt added" kinda the same thing? Or, over time, if over 20 hours of flight you added 5 quarts of oil, then you know you're burning about a quart every 4 hours. What does knowing the measured amount tell you that this doesn't?
 
So the high-water mark works, kind of, but I would love a true hour based deadline like countdown/clock like feature that you have for the 25, 50, 100 hour, etc. Basically a TACH based deadline that others have suggested. Something more menacing as my 50 hour AD ticks closer and closer to reality. Not to mention the other five hourly based ADs I have for my 1971 era plane :)

For the oil tracking, I would track at the beginning of the flight as most of the time we add oil at the beginning of the flight. For my plane full oil is actually a range. I have a Cherokee 6 with a oil capacity of up to 12 qts but practically anything over 9 qts gets blown out. So I'll fly anything between 9 and 7 qts and it helps to know what the start is. I keep a whole spreadsheet to track oil consumption.

Thank you again,
Chris
 
Hi, Chris. I think I understand you now. Deadlines can indeed work off of hours as you suggest - they just need to have an associated aircraft. When you create a deadline, pick the aircraft with which it is associated. there's then a checkbox that says "Deadline is determined using aircraft hours, not a date". You can then put in the hours when it's due, and it will show up in your currency and in the deadline report. Note that it uses "hours" and doesn't distinguish tach vs. hobbs - just put in the number you want to use. It can't do 25/50/100, I'm afraid, because my deadlines don't know when "last" was done - just when "next" is due, and the whole 25/50/100 thing is based on the idea that the oil change is needed when it's needed, not on a fixed deadline, so I show 3 sample deadlines.

(Or am I still not quite following?)

I've added "Oil Level" as a property.
 
EricBe said:
Hi, Chris. I think I understand you now. Deadlines can indeed work off of hours as you suggest - they just need to have an associated aircraft. When you create a deadline, pick the aircraft with which it is associated. there's then a checkbox that says "Deadline is determined using aircraft hours, not a date". You can then put in the hours when it's due, and it will show up in your currency and in the deadline report. Note that it uses "hours" and doesn't distinguish tach vs. hobbs - just put in the number you want to use. It can't do 25/50/100, I'm afraid, because my deadlines don't know when "last" was done - just when "next" is due, and the whole 25/50/100 thing is based on the idea that the oil change is needed when it's needed, not on a fixed deadline, so I show 3 sample deadlines.

(Or am I still not quite following?)

I've added "Oil Level" as a property.
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Thank you. For the Oil Level any chance that can propagate into the club flying report?

I figured out the Deadline issue. Perhaps it was my way of accessing the deadlines but I went to "Aircraft - My Aircraft - Nxxxxx" and then went down to "deadlines" at the bottom. There it only let me do calendar deadlines, not hourly based deadlines. When I reviewed your handy Youtube training video I figured out how to access deadlines via the Profile - Custom Deadlines and saw you can add an hourly based deadline. I think the problem is solved.

-Chris
 
What would go into report for oil level - most recent? That one is a little tough because it’s associated with a flight, not the aircraft. And then it begs the question of fuel consumed, fuel at start, etc.
 
BTW, realized that the lack of hours option for a deadline on the aircraft page was a bug. I have a fix, will take it live shortly.
 
EricBe said:
What would go into report for oil level - most recent? That one is a little tough because it’s associated with a flight, not the aircraft. And then it begs the question of fuel consumed, fuel at start, etc.
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So I would say in an ideal world the report section would be customizible for clubs for certain properties. So things that are aircraft specific, per a flight like oil consumed, fuel consumed, fuel at start, tach, hobbs, etc. That way the user could decide what to report and not to report. Of course that's probably a fair amount of coding to do. But even without those fields, you have a great tool.

-Chris
 
My point was that the report spans a time period. Things like oil consumed make sense to total or average over that period. But oil measured is a snapshot. What does that mean over a given time period? What value do you report?
 
EricBe said:
My point was that the report spans a time period. Things like oil consumed make sense to total or average over that period. But oil measured is a snapshot. What does that mean over a given time period? What value do you report?
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Most common I’ve seen owners want is oil consumed between oil changes over a long time.

Second most common would be the opposite, oil consumed since last change to see a developing trend happening this change cycle.
 
denverpilot said:
Most common I’ve seen owners want is oil consumed between oil changes over a long time.

Second most common would be the opposite, oil consumed since last change to see a developing trend happening this change cycle.
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Totally agree: consumption is something you can add, so you can compare it over varying time periods. But an oil *level* ("7 qts") doesn't coalesce into a single time: if a reports spans a month and there were 5 reports during the month of 6.5qts, 7qts, 5qts, 7.5qts, and 7.2qts, what do you display in a cell in a report? That's something you might graph, but even that doesn't tell you much without knowing how much flying time was in between...
 
RussR said:
Hi @EricBe - a "fun" feature request:

Some years ago, my wife asked me if I'd ever flown on a certain day. Maybe Christmas or my birthday or something. I of course had to check each year of my logbook, and then thought it would be an interesting statistic to try to to keep track of. So I used a paper calendar like https://www.printable2019calendars.com/preview/2019_Calendar_One_Page_Vertical_Grid

and on a rainy day went through my logbooks and checked off each day I had flown on. (I had about 800 hours at the time. It actually took less time that you'd think...)
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I just added this...sorta. Does exactly what you describe except for compressing into a single-year view. I.e., you can view a calandar layout of all of your flights and see how many flights you did on that day. Check out the Achievements page on the website (and monthly email on Aug 1).
 
EricBe said:
I just added this...sorta. Does exactly what you describe except for compressing into a single-year view. I.e., you can view a calandar layout of all of your flights and see how many flights you did on that day. Check out the Achievements page on the website (and monthly email on Aug 1).
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Pretty snappy! I like it!

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If you're going to Oshkosh this year, I'd love to meet you!

* MONDAY 4pm, Workshop classroom A: The Power of Electronic Logbooks. I'll be talking at a high level about what I've learned doing MyFlightbook for the past 13 years or so.
* TUESDAY, Noon - I'm doing a meet-and-greet at the CloudAhoy booth (Hangar C), highlighting integration between CloudAhoy and MyFlightbook. No prepared talk, opportunity for 1:1 conversations
* TUESDAY 2pm - meetup! Let's have a beer (if available) or soft drink and discuss...whatever you want to discuss! Food court on Celebration Way (in front of Hangar D).
* TUESDAY 4pm, Workshop classroom C - Getting Started with MyFlightbook. If you're a new pilot, transitioning from paper, or transitioning from other logbooks, or just want to get into the weeds of how things work, please join me for this talk.

I'll also be around earlier on Monday and on Wed. morning, if you want to meet up just contact me directly. MyFlightbook@gmail.com.
 
EricBe said:
I'll be talking at a high level about what I've learned doing MyFlightbook for the past 13 years or so.
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Please share a summary to your blog or FB page for those of us not attending OSH. I think that would be an interesting read.
 
Is it my imagination, or is there not a way to upload telemetry in the mobile app? I could have sworn it used to be there, but can't find it now
 
Lindberg said:
Is it my imagination, or is there not a way to upload telemetry in the mobile app? I could have sworn it used to be there, but can't find it now
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absolutely! two ways to do it:
a) Use the app to record your flight. Turn on the option to record your flight (and optionally autodetect takeoffs/landings), and then between engine start and engine end it will listen to the GPS and record telemetry; this will be saved with the flight.
b) if you have a GPX or KML file from another source, use the "Send" function to send it to another app. MyFlightbook should be listed as a recipient for it. If you have autodetect turned on, it will initialize a flight from that file, and if you have recording on it will preserve the data as well. You can then save the flight.
 
Love to have the chance to say Hi at OSH.. Will see if I can make that happen.
 
EricBe said:
absolutely! two ways to do it:
a) Use the app to record your flight. Turn on the option to record your flight (and optionally autodetect takeoffs/landings), and then between engine start and engine end it will listen to the GPS and record telemetry; this will be saved with the flight.
b) if you have a GPX or KML file from another source, use the "Send" function to send it to another app. MyFlightbook should be listed as a recipient for it. If you have autodetect turned on, it will initialize a flight from that file, and if you have recording on it will preserve the data as well. You can then save the flight.
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Got it. I try to remember to auto record my flights, but forget more often than not. In the web version though, there's a direct way to upload telemetry from another app.
 
@EricBe .... can the Siri Shortcuts be used with MFB?

I am thinking about such shortcuts as
Start new flight
End flight
What is my currency?
When is my flight review due?
How many total hours?

And so on.
 
@EricBe , it seems that my list of "active" aircraft differs between the web version and the iOS version. Meaning, hiding an airplane on one doesn't hide it on the other. Is that just me, or is that the way it's programmed?
 
RussR said:
@EricBe , it seems that my list of "active" aircraft differs between the web version and the iOS version. Meaning, hiding an airplane on one doesn't hide it on the other. Is that just me, or is that the way it's programmed?
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Sorry for the delayed response. When you change the active flag on an aircraft using the iOS/android app, you need to press "Update" to push the change up to the server. Otherwise, it's just local to the device (and will get overwritten the next time you sync your aircraft). Or, if you changed the flag on the server, you'll need to refresh your aircraft list on the device.
 
EricBe said:
Sorry for the delayed response. When you change the active flag on an aircraft using the iOS/android app, you need to press "Update" to push the change up to the server. Otherwise, it's just local to the device (and will get overwritten the next time you sync your aircraft). Or, if you changed the flag on the server, you'll need to refresh your aircraft list on the device.
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Okay, that was exactly it. On the iPad, I hadn't been going to "My Aircraft" and refreshing the list. I didn't even think about that, maybe I didn't even know about it. I guess I suspected the drop-down list in the "New Flight" dialog would show the changes after I updated it on the web version. Obviously not! I wonder how long it has been since I refreshed "My Aircraft" on the iPad. Probably a long time!
 
The latest version of the app should be more aggressive about background-refreshing your aircraft list. I don't auto-update or auto-refresh because - by definition as an aviation app - I can't assume good or continuous connectivity.
 
@EricBe - hello again!

On the iOS app (perhaps the Android app too?), when I go on an IFR training flight with multiple approaches at multiple airports without stopping, entering the approaches is cumbersome. In the Approaches dialog box, for "Airport", it does not allow manual entry of the airport ID. Instead, it offers up a list of the airports that it determined were in the Route. Well, if I do a missed approach it does not detect that I went to that airport, so it does not put it in the route (which is fine with me, as I generally only include airports in my route of flight if I actually landed at them), and therefore does not offer it as an option in the Approaches box.

A workaround is to enter the airports in Route, then do the approaches, then delete the airports from the Route. It keeps the correct approaches in this case.

But it would be great if I could manually enter the Airport under Approaches instead of having to select from a list - or perhaps allow both ways.

Thanks!
 
RussR said:
But it would be great if I could manually enter the Airport under Approaches instead of having to select from a list - or perhaps allow both ways.
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Sounds like an opportunity for our resident logbook wizard to create a "toggle setting" in the User Preferences. And one that is persistent across all platforms.
 
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