The MyFlightBook thread

I just landed off-field (intentionally) for the first time today and realized I don't know if MyFlightBook has a way to keep track of those separate from total landings and day full stop landings. I looked for "off field" in the properties but didn't see it there. How are others keeping track of this?

Edit: I see "bush time". Maybe if a new property is needed it should be "bush landings"?

Edit 2: "landings - bush" is there already, cool :)
 
I also have "Landings - Emergency" for when this *isn't* intentional.
 
Just made plans to go to Oshkosh (my first time!). I don't have a booth or anything, but if people are interested in meeting up, it could be fun. Let me know if there's interest! I'll be there all day Monday the 24th and morning of the 25th.
 
EricBe said:
Just made plans to go to Oshkosh (my first time!). I don't have a booth or anything, but if people are interested in meeting up, it could be fun. Let me know if there's interest! I'll be there all day Monday the 24th and morning of the 25th.
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I'll be there and will definitely try to connect and personally thank you for a great product! It's the one feature of ForeFlight I'm not using, because MFB does it so well!

~ Troy Whistman
 
Details of the meet-up:
4pm (CDT), on Monday the 24th
Oshkosh Airport, food stand at corner of Waukau and Eide
I'm 50 years old, male, I have a ponytail (hey, what can I say, I live on the west coast), and I (hopefully) will have a "MyFlightbook" t-shirt or cap on.
 
TangoWhiskey said:
I'll be there and will definitely try to connect and personally thank you for a great product! It's the one feature of ForeFlight I'm not using, because MFB does it so well!

~ Troy Whistman
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Cool - looking forward to meeting you!
 
There are already a ton of flight properties, but I'd like to request two more, that I don't think are there:

Glider - waive off
Glider - slip to land (simulated spoiler failure)
 
Lindberg said:
There are already a ton of flight properties, but I'd like to request two more, that I don't think are there:

Glider - waive off
Glider - slip to land (simulated spoiler failure)
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Slip to land seems pretty straightforward; can you explain "waive off"? (should that be "wave off", as in "somebody told me to go around?" And if so, how do you go around in a glider?)
 
It's not a landing thing. It's during tow.
The tow plane rocking the wings is a signal to the glider pilot to release immediately.
 
\__[Ô]__/ said:
It's not a landing thing. It's during tow.
The tow plane rocking the wings is a signal to the glider pilot to release immediately.
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Right. And yes, "wave off." Autocomplete strikes again. It's a signal to get off from the tow plane when something's wrong, engine failure or something. Also simulated for training or check rides.
 
Lindberg said:
Right. And yes, "wave off." Autocomplete strikes again. It's a signal to get off from the tow plane when something's wrong, engine failure or something. Also simulated for training or check rides.
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Super - I can trivially add both; just quick question: should this be a true/false ("I was waved off on this flight", "I had to slip-to land") or a count ("I was waved off twice", "I did 2 slip-to-lands?") I'm assuming a single glider flight can have only one of each, but I don't know how much glider pilots will log multiple flights in a single entry. (Hmmm...if only there were a data source where I could answer a question like that... :)) But I figure I'd ask you; I can do the data query tomorrow.
 
I log each flight separately, and I assume most others do as well. In every logbook I've seen, there's only one spot for release and max altitudes, etc. so you would need to use a different line per flight.
 
Interesting. Here are my stats as of last night for glider flights: 3,091 flight entries in gliders have more than one landing, 27,424 have exactly one landing, and 7,610 record zero landings (performed, perhaps, by the instructor?)

Anyhow, I've added both properties, as true/false values. They're live right now on the site, if you're using a mobile app you'll need to refresh your property list.
 
EricBe said:
Interesting. Here are my stats as of last night for glider flights: 3,091 flight entries in gliders have more than one landing, 27,424 have exactly one landing, and 7,610 record zero landings (performed, perhaps, by the instructor?)

Anyhow, I've added both properties, as true/false values. They're live right now on the site, if you're using a mobile app you'll need to refresh your property list.
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A flight with zero landings is strange. If the instructor is flying, I'd assume you'd log dual, including the landings, or not log it at all. I might not log a landing if I was flying with a pilot friend who did the landing, but I probably wouldn't log that flight unless I flew for a significant period.

I can see how someone might log a bunch of pattern tows as a single flight, like touch and go practice, but I don't. You're essentially shutting down between each tow and starting over.

Different strokes for different folks probably keeps your development life interesting.
 
Lindberg said:
A flight with zero landings is strange. If the instructor is flying, I'd assume you'd log dual, including the landings, or not log it at all. I might not log a landing if I was flying with a pilot friend who did the landing, but I probably wouldn't log that flight unless I flew for a significant period.
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As an instructor (powered aircraft), I do not generally log (in my logbook) the landings that the student makes. If I make one (like a demo), then sure I'll log it to make sure I'm current, but normally I don't log the landing even if I'm "helping" significantly. For two reasons - 1) if I don't touch the controls, I can't say I "landed" the airplane, 2) and even if I did, it just doesn't matter.

So there are a whole lot of flights in my logbook with no landings.

I don't think this is unusual for instructors. I would assume that it's the same for glider CFIs.
 
RussR said:
As an instructor (powered aircraft), I do not generally log (in my logbook) the landings that the student makes. If I make one (like a demo), then sure I'll log it to make sure I'm current, but normally I don't log the landing even if I'm "helping" significantly. For two reasons - 1) if I don't touch the controls, I can't say I "landed" the airplane, 2) and even if I did, it just doesn't matter.

So there are a whole lot of flights in my logbook with no landings.

I don't think this is unusual for instructors. I would assume that it's the same for glider CFIs.
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It's this sort of thing that's why I perform very few sanity checks on flights. All sorts of scenarios where you'd look at a flight and say "wait, that can't be right", but on further investigation it turns out that there's some valid reason for logging whatever is logged the way it is logged...
 
RussR said:
As an instructor (powered aircraft), I do not generally log (in my logbook) the landings that the student makes. If I make one (like a demo), then sure I'll log it to make sure I'm current, but normally I don't log the landing even if I'm "helping" significantly. For two reasons - 1) if I don't touch the controls, I can't say I "landed" the airplane, 2) and even if I did, it just doesn't matter.

So there are a whole lot of flights in my logbook with no landings.

I don't think this is unusual for instructors. I would assume that it's the same for glider CFIs.
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Interesting, and something I would never think of, since I have no interest in letting student pilots try to kill me. But I do have to admit that when I went to add the new properties to some recent flights, I noticed that I logged zero landings for my last flight (powered) even though I was alone. I just forgot. So there may be some of those in the numbers, too....
 
Lindberg said:
Interesting, and something I would never think of, since I have no interest in letting student pilots try to kill me. But I do have to admit that when I went to add the new properties to some recent flights, I noticed that I logged zero landings for my last flight (powered) even though I was alone. I just forgot. So there may be some of those in the numbers, too....
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My landings numbers are a disaster on MyFlightBook. Mostly due to not having gone through three logbooks and fixing them.

There's a point where fixing it is diminishing returns going back and counting landings made in 1991 before anyone even thought of using electronic logbooks. :)

Do I care how many landings I've made? Not really. Only if going for a rating that requires a certain number.

Plus same omission problem with paper as electronic. Some flights way back when, no landings logged. Hmm. Can't really fix that in any sane way. There should be one there, but the column is blank. So it's blank on the electronic version too.
 
Eric - suggestion/request.

For those of us using BasicMed, I found there is no way to have the medical currency updated. Only choices are 3rd through 1st.

Can you add BasicMed to the options? I do like that you have some of the BasicMed integrated (uploading the checklist and whatnot) but it would be great if it was done just like the medical is done.
 
SkyHog said:
Eric - suggestion/request.

For those of us using BasicMed, I found there is no way to have the medical currency updated. Only choices are 3rd through 1st.

Can you add BasicMed to the options? I do like that you have some of the BasicMed integrated (uploading the checklist and whatnot) but it would be great if it was done just like the medical is done.
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I did BasicMed alongside (in parallel) to
SkyHog said:
Eric - suggestion/request.

For those of us using BasicMed, I found there is no way to have the medical currency updated. Only choices are 3rd through 1st.

Can you add BasicMed to the options? I do like that you have some of the BasicMed integrated (uploading the checklist and whatnot) but it would be great if it was done just like the medical is done.
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OK, I'm going to call "no fair", asking me to remember why I did something the way I did. :)

I think I did it this way because BasicMed and traditional medicals are side-by-side things; you can have both be valid at the same time, and depending on what you need you might use one or the other.

Unlike flight reviews, where I record each review (and checkride that counts as a review) that you have had, I don't keep a history of medicals; instead, you just tell me the most recent one. I.e., I don't have a list anywhere that on Oct 18, 2013 you had a 3rd class medical exam, then again on Oct 28 2015, and then on May 8 and 23 of 2017 you had a physician visit/online quiz for basicmed. If I had a list, then I think it would make sense to have, as you suggest "add a medical" or "add a basicmed event", and they would just add to the list and I could scan the list and tell you when your basicmed privileges expire and when your traditional medical privileges expire.

But all you can do (in my current architecture) with the traditional medical date is update it, replacing the prior one, and you had to have had one within the last 10 years to use basicmed, so I kinda had to keep them side by side.

At least that's my recollection looking at this at 10pm on a Tuesday night...:)
 
Site is down tonight. Not complaining, just hoping Eric will fix it so I can fill out my IACRA. I am sitting here dreading having to do it the old fashioned way. :)
 
It's a firewall issue - server is fine, but unreachable; I am working it. You can go to http://webmail.hothpark.com/logbook/default.aspx in the meantime, but please don't make data updates; this is my development server and the database will be updated tomorrow.
 
Thankfully I had started my IACRA last week so adding two flights was not so hard to do by hand. Mostly wanted to make sure you were aware of the issue. Glad you know what it is. Thanks again for making yet another part of flying easier so we can just fly more!
 
MyFlightbook is back up, running on the backup server, so it’s slow, and iOS apps don’t work, but it's there and historical data is fine.

Any changes made between 9pm PDT on Tuesday (July 25) and about 1pm Wed are lost, I’m afraid. But all other data should be fine.

My apologies; while trying to fix some potential security holes on the server I inadvertently made it super secure: it wouldn’t allow in any network traffic whatsoever. I’m hoping to restore that tomorrow, when I can have physical access to the machine.
 
EricBe said:
My apologies; while trying to fix some potential security holes on the server I inadvertently made it super secure: it wouldn’t allow in any network traffic whatsoever. I’m hoping to restore that tomorrow, when I can have physical access to the machine.
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You weren't trying to apply DoD STIGs to it were you?
 
EricBe said:
MyFlightbook is back up, running on the backup server, so it’s slow, and iOS apps don’t work, but it's there and historical data is fine.

Any changes made between 9pm PDT on Tuesday (July 25) and about 1pm Wed are lost, I’m afraid. But all other data should be fine.

My apologies; while trying to fix some potential security holes on the server I inadvertently made it super secure: it wouldn’t allow in any network traffic whatsoever. I’m hoping to restore that tomorrow, when I can have physical access to the machine.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

Not sure how it impacts a small shop like you. I know my life is currently being made hell by it.
 
arnoha said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

Not sure how it impacts a small shop like you. I know my life is currently being made hell by it.
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Nope. Was trying to close some unused ports that the firewall wasn't already blocking - unfortunately, I fat-fingered it and blocked all ports, completely isolating the server from the network. Getting to the server by tricking it into thinking you're local is quite a bit more difficult than I imagined.
 
Phew, *finally* got the site back off of the backup server and to the production server. So sorry for any inconvenience; let me know if you lost data (would only be something entered between 9:30PM PDT on July 25 and about 1:30PM PDT on July 26), I can absolutely restore it (I just don't know what you might have lost).
 
Just checked my Achievements and noticed a couple of things:

1. It says "North Dakota Passport" which is pretty cool. I qualify for the first level of that program. Kind of neat that your program recognizes it. Now I'm going to land EVERYWHERE to find out if you have more of these hidden achievements.
2. I recently hit 250 hours but didn't get an achievement for that. That would be a nice one to add.
3. I recently logged my instrument rating check ride and the achievements page assumes that I passed. I did pass, but I'd feel pretty sheepish if I hadn't. :)
 
iamtheari said:
Just checked my Achievements and noticed a couple of things:

1. It says "North Dakota Passport" which is pretty cool. I qualify for the first level of that program. Kind of neat that your program recognizes it. Now I'm going to land EVERYWHERE to find out if you have more of these hidden achievements.
2. I recently hit 250 hours but didn't get an achievement for that. That would be a nice one to add.
3. I recently logged my instrument rating check ride and the achievements page assumes that I passed. I did pass, but I'd feel pretty sheepish if I hadn't. :)
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#1 - there are other gems; you gotta find them. :) Part of the fun is seeing what's there!
#2 - there are multiple levels on this; the first one was 40 hours, the next one is...higher. Keep flying!
#3 - Careful logging a checkride as such if you didn't pass, since I count the checkride property (if present) as a flight review.
 
@EricBe ... is there a way to program the iPhone app to detect that I haven't done the "flight is done, finish the details so I can send this info to the cloud?"

Then make the phone start beeping and buzzing to remind me to do this action?

Often, I get busy with getting the aircraft back into the hangar and cleaned up that I don't go back to MFB to indicate engine is shut down, flight times are spread amongst the appropriate categories (PIC, XC, IMC, etc) or the comments or the approaches I did (if any).

Can a setting be created that "IF landing="yes" AND you_haven't_moved_in_5_or_10_minutes="yes" THEN do "Annoy_the_pilot_to_get_the_flight_record_finished" ?
 
denverpilot said:
@AggieMike88 add it to your checklist at the step where you write down the tach and Hobbs time. :) You’re doing that anyway. :)
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There are flights where I'm lucky to remember to do that.

Maybe an oversized sign on the hangar wall... "HAVE YOU CLOSED YOUR MY FLIGHT BOOK YET?"
 
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