Jay Honeck
Touchdown! Greaser!
If you have time to do it, jury duty is one of more interesting, educational experiences you can have. I enjoyed it.
The amount of misstatements and outright falsehoods in that article makes my head hurt.
Jury "Nullification" works by blatantly abusing the 6th Amendment while shackling the legal system with the 5th. It is not a right or a privilege for a jury to overturn matters that belong to the legislature. Of course, that hasn't stopped POTUS, so I don't expect it'll stop a jury.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_courtIf I say the law should be violated with impunity, then that trumps what the legislature decided.
And getting paid 15 dollars a day... One could go broke REAL fast..
Federal grand jury only sits one day a week, if that, for the normal course of business. For some people, that can be a big financial hassle. They are more selective with grand jury selection than trial jury selection. Anybody with half a brain can get excused without trying too hard.
This is the attitude I'm talking about. We hear everybody always squawking about their Rights, never about their Responsibility. With rights and freedom come responsibility to society. Having rights and freedom puts the burden of maintaining society on you. If you don't want that responsibility, shoulder that burden, and do the grunt work that needs to be done to get it done and maintain a peaceful society, then you will lose either the peaceful society or your rights and freedoms; most likely both, like here in America.
Hearing this come out of a US Marshal though, that is disapponting on a variety of levels, very sad.
As a collective society and species, we have to really start thinking on the collective whole and act in ways that benefit society on the whole first, and personal gain second. This will actually have a compounding effect that will leave us us individually more prosperous than we are considering personal gain first. When you bring up all of society, you ride up with it, so if you think about society first, you will come to the method of achieving your whatever business/personal transaction that will have the best overall result. There is always more than one way to do anything, the trick is to choose the most beneficial one, even if some of those benefits are not yours, but go to someone else. That is the economic mindset we need to adopt. We even gave Dr Nash a Nobel Prize for proving it mathematically, it is the Natural Law of Economics, when everybody cooperates rather than competes, everyone is better off, even those who would have been the winner under the competitive model.
Really?I'm a 50something white male...no defense attorney is going to put up with me on the panel....just isn't going to happen...and so far I've always had to show
The last time I showed up for jury duty I was dismissed for wearing my TEA Party pin. It was like... Magic!
Really?
I was a 50-something white male when I was selected to be on a jury. (I forget - are you in Arapahoe where I was?)
Very rewarding experience.
Hmmm....I'd say my former boss had more than "half a brain" and ended up spending weeks on the grand jury.
One of the most vocal advocates of the strict Constitution on this site and you deny the most fundamental requirement of citizenship.
Fascinating.
I've gotten summoned but only had to show up once, for a murder trial where they called half the county for selection. The selection process took three days but I was not selected. Had too high a lottery number. Besides, I probably looked like too much of a wild card for both sides. This is a small rural county and I don't quite fit the profile of a "peer".
I'm a 50something white male...no defense attorney is going to put up with me on the panel....just isn't going to happen...and so far I've always had to show
And.... You are a pilot, and pilots need to be smart , intelligent and methodical.....
You will get thrown off before you even park your car in the courthouse parking lot..........
Jury duty shows the true nature of America and humanity, too many just cant be ****ed to do what we need to do to maintain society outside our immediate interest, and our immediate interest is only getting paid. Want to know why America has problems, this thread says it all.
Ah the Taj! It was a while back but I think I tried the first jury trial there when it opened. If I ever told the "how many lawyers does it take to run a tape recorder" story it was from that case.Jefferson but this is a city summons - I've set in the jury pool at the Taj...wasn't fun or rewarding though I did take the full day off work
Ah the Taj! It was a while back but I think I tried the first jury trial there when it opened. If I ever told the "how many lawyers does it take to run a tape recorder" story it was from that case.
The selection process is an Inefficient waste of time and money
I retired from a company that would make up the difference between the jury allowance and our regular pay. For some reason a lot of us wound up on jury duty.
I was called recently. The case was for an armed robbery of a cellphone. We were told that there was no physical evidence - no phone, no gun. It was a he said, she said kind of thing (but both young men, no women). During the jury selection process it was clear I am a white male, I have two relatives in law enforcement. Thank you Mr. Miller, you may go home.
-Skip
I see you were paying attention!Probably because you went hiking in a skirt!
One of the most vocal advocates of the strict Constitution on this site and you deny the most fundamental requirement of citizenship.
Fascinating.
Not At All.
I was happy to serve, but damned if I was going to be made to pretend something that wasn't true. The defense and prosecutors didn't want me because they were offended by my pin, that's all on them, and their innate prejudiced.
I was told that another sure reject is if you bring a Bible to read to entertain yourself while you wait.
In Colorado, by law, all courthouses are supposed to provide safe storage of firearms if you arrive with one. I bet that one would be entertaining to explain if they couldn't find the legally required storage locker and you were late for Court because of it. LOL.
(Very few do, but a few are properly equipped as required by State law, according to those checking on and tracking such things. And apparently you just walk right up to the security guard at the metal detector and tell them you need to disarm and how would they like to secure the firearm. In theory, one could walk in the front door with a long gun and then ask, but I suspect that'd bring some rather interesting attention, since in most rural counties, the courthouse and the sheriff are co-domiciled.)
It'd make for something fun to do if one was retired, and had plenty of time on their hands. Show up for jury duty with a shotgun...
With a Go Pro camera strapped to your hat to document the results.....
Just in case they shoot you. Instant millionaire. LOL.
Make that multi millionaire...
I retired from a company that would make up the difference between the jury allowance and our regular pay. For some reason a lot of us wound up on jury duty.
I'm a 50something white male...no defense attorney is going to put up with me on the panel....just isn't going to happen...and so far I've always had to show