Piper drops PiperSport

ejensen said:
I've never flown a 170 but a couple of folks at Jabiru USA said with a 3300 engine it was their favorite 'fun' plane. The 230 is longer is supposed to have more rudder and elevator authority. Higher wing loading than the 250, 12.5 vs 11.0. This is the only LSA I've flown. I don't find it hard to land. Easier to overcontrol than my Mooney F.
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Good to know. The J170 is probably the easiest to land LSA I've flown, which is basically the CTSW, Remos and the Jabiru. I'd imagine the extra power in the J230 is nice, coupled with the additional space in the plane.
 
ejensen said:
Why is that?
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It's just the only LSA class airplane that appeals to me personally. I'm not trying to say that there aren't other good LSA options out there. If it was half the cost, I'd probably buy one today. But I could get an older, nicely equipped Arrow for less than a new Pipersport.
 
zaitcev said:
According to Dan, total S-LSA 1914, of which CTLS sold 320 units (16.7%), Cessna 31 (1.6%). These numbers are grand totals apparently, so with only 218 new registrations in the year, Cessna's 31 and Piper's 43 together look like dominance.
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Meanwhile in Yakima WA (USA), CubCrafters has LSA #155 on the assembly line now (same assembly line that builds the certified Top Cub) and a full order book. But this is an example of an S-LSA that has specialized capabilities, far beyond a "C-150 replacement" that can be flown without a medical. Ironically Piper lost interest in the Cub concept and it took Jim Richmond & Co. at Yakima, as well as the Legend folks in Texas, to explore and expand its potential.
 
Sac Arrow said:
It's just the only LSA class airplane that appeals to me personally. I'm not trying to say that there aren't other good LSA options out there. If it was half the cost, I'd probably buy one today. But I could get an older, nicely equipped Arrow for less than a new Pipersport.
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Ok, thought maybe there was something specific about it. With so many out there is is hard to sort down. Many are similar.
 
Pilawt said:
Meanwhile in Yakima WA (USA), CubCrafters has LSA #155 on the assembly line now (same assembly line that builds the certified Top Cub) and a full order book. But this is an example of an S-LSA that has specialized capabilities, far beyond a "C-150 replacement" that can be flown without a medical.
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"Pricing for 2010 Sport Cub S2 ready-to-fly with the standard features: $134,950". I did not dare to click on Carbon Cub's page. Certainly, a bargain in the world where a spiffed-up Cherokee, er. Archer flyaway price is $309,900. But not quite what the LSA was supposed to provide. And noticeably higher than even C-162's $112K.
 
I have flown a number of times in the sport cruiser that Dave Taylor and my friend has out here.
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I believe Jeanie meant to say, Dave 'mentioned' or 'posted'; although I am not currently one, I would love to be a SC owner!
 
ejensen said:
Ok, thought maybe there was something specific about it. With so many out there is is hard to sort down. Many are similar.
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I saw one at my home field last year. It looked like a very solid, good quality airplane, and I liked the specs. Many LSA's have the "kit" look to them. I think it's overpriced for what it is, but I feel the same way about every new airplane on the market.
 
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