OMG! Look what landed at KDTO today!

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The original "I don't know it all" of aviation.
Transient ramp parking at Denton Municipal (Texas) will be a bit tight for today and tomorrow to make space for The Colling's Foundation Flying Tour.

Here are photos taken today when they arrived during my lunch break.

I'll be out there later today or tomorrow to take some more pics.
 

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Okay... Jealous! The Me-262 is just awesome!
 
Is the B-17 Nine-O-Nine?
 
I wonder what the reliability is like on the engines in the Me-262? Piston technology was just a wee bit more mature than jet tech at that time, eh?
 
jhausch said:
I wonder what the reliability is like on the engines in the Me-262? Piston technology was just a wee bit more mature than jet tech at that time, eh?
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This aircraft is a replica that uses GE CJ-610 engines. Far more reliable than the originals. :)
 
jhausch said:
I wonder what the reliability is like on the engines in the Me-262? Piston technology was just a wee bit more mature than jet tech at that time, eh?
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Operational service life of about 10-25hrs according to wiki. I had heard the same back in school, too.
 
DavidWhite said:
CAF has one too.
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Correct. CAF's "Diamond Lil" is an early-build B-24A, while the Collings Foundation's "Witchcraft" is a J-model.

Can't wait to see this group next month at SAF! (One week following CAF's visit to ABQ with FIFI... it's a good spring for warbirds in the Land of Enchantment!)
 
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That 262's amazing, i'd love it if they'd drop in at KAPA with that sometime
 
I wonder what the original engines would sound like in person. Seems like it would be like listening to a dinosaur roar.....

Very cool!
 
CF is doing flight experiences (if you have a pilot cert) and offering type ratings in the Me-262 for those so inclined.

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Fearless Tower said:
CF is doing flight experiences (if you have a pilot cert) and offering type ratings in the Me-262 for those so inclined.

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Need a link for that one!
 
The Me262 is an all-time favorite. Anyone know its planned flight route?
Coming anywhere near Colorado's Front Range?
Thank you for the pics, Mike.
 
Velocity173 said:
This aircraft is a replica that uses GE CJ-610 engines. Far more reliable than the originals. :)
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They build 'em up here in my neck of the woods, know a bunch of the guys doing it and have visited several times. Wrote an article about the guy in charge ~10-15 years ago on one of his earlier projects.

http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html

A former Navy "Gate Guardian" was used to make the patters to rebuild the Navy plane and build five additional aircraft. The aircraft have received serial numbers from Messerschmidt, which took one of the first ones. A couple have sold, but I believe one or two are left. The planes are all two-seaters, but you can put the single-seat canopy on it to look like the original day fighter.

The planes were (mostly) built to plans, so they don't have that much fuel capacity. One or two customers have paid for bigger tanks. They do have replica cannons in the nose.

Ron Wanttaja
 
comanchepilot said:
overhauled every 25 hours at the beginning and they got it up to 50 by the end!
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I read somewhere that it wasn't that the Germans didn't know how to make high temperature alloys - but that they couldn't get the raw materials needed due to wartime embargoes.

Dave
 
I know a vet or two that would probably get an itchy trigger finger looking at that Messerschmitt.
 
see post 23 for schedule link
 
cessna182b said:
I read somewhere that it wasn't that the Germans didn't know how to make high temperature alloys - but that they couldn't get the raw materials needed due to wartime embargoes.

Dave
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High temperature is relative. Certainly they would have had a hard time importing materials, but keep in mind that this was extremely new technology. Our first turbine engines weren't a great deal better - life measured in the low hundreds of hours.

As much as helping longevity, temperatures have provided efficiency. That's the real benefit.

The CJ610s aren't known for being particularly efficient, but I'm sure that they represent a good upgrade for an ME262, not to mention a good use for a set of old Lear 23/24/25 engines. Since they burn as much fuel at ground idle as FL400 cruise, I'd be curious what the flight times people see are, and how high they can fly the things for ferrying.
 
That's really not too terrible of a price, but I think I'll not be spending that money anytime soon.
 
Took a ride in 909 when it was in town a few years back. One of the other passengers was a gentleman who flew 23 missions up to VE Day in the ETO. He was preparing to transfer to the Pacific when VJ day stopped that. Got to be good friends until his passing.

The experience was worth every penny.

Cheers
 
Skylane81E said:
Putting pennies away, I'd pay that much for upset training in a 262
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Oh certainly, but first I'd want to pay for it in something that's closer to what I normally fly. It'd be nice to get some use out of the training.
 
Skylane81E said:
How many other twins can you get upset training in?
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Probably not many, if any. But the 310 is no LearBaron, so something piston powered would probably be closer.
 
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