Non-aviation Posts

What should PoA's policy on non-aviation content be?

  • Eliminate all non-aviation posts.

    Votes: 11 8.4%

  • Move all non-aviation posts to a new "Off the Airport" forum.

    Votes: 37 28.2%

  • Continue as is, allowing non-aviation posts in "Hangar Talk."

    Votes: 83 63.4%
  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .
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Joe Williams said:
How does it compare to, say, cat?:D
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/me prepares to monitor the reputation comments. The responses to this one are gonna be GOOD. ;)
 
I unknowingly had horsemeat in Japan. I don't recall any particular flavor profile, probably because of the Kirin Ichiban.:rolleyes:
 
I've had capybara in Brazil. I didn't know what it was at the time... later I found out. Kinda like pork but drier. I so preferred the Piciana with onion (cut of beef similar to sirloin but not quite). I got back at them in general (not the same Brazilians but other Brazilian co-workers) by bringing in Venison BBQ meat balls for the potluck holiday party..

Months later I figuered out what it was.... :vomit:
 
woodstock said:
actually tofu isn't bad. I've been to vegetarian restaurants where it really does taste kinda like chicken. at least if you coat it really well.
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Well then, why not just eat chicken??? :yes:
 
I was there on AvWeb's board long before Wolk sued them and they essentially shut it down. Anonymous posts were not allowed, but the battles were ferocious. While you had to be a bit thick-skinned to participate, there were lots of interesting aviation topics and information, with several commercial pilots, ATC controllers, FAA management, mechanics, component manufacturers, lawyers, etc. And you always knew who you were talking to.

I was also there early on at AOPA. The anonymous feature was fatal to the conduct of the board, and AOPA never completely dealt with that issue, although the huge number of meaningless posts diminished substantially. The personal attacks and vitriol continued, however, because to the user there was still the possibility of imposters and anonymity. I left that board over a year ago primarily because of AOPA management's policy of continuing appeasement regarding TFRs & the ADIZ [while serenely flying their Citation essentially unaffected], so I'm not familiar with the feature changes after the haitus.

By comparison this board is tame. I find few of the safety issues which are my particular interest . . . the Branson Seneca wasn't even mentioned. Politics is negligible, and I always liked to hear other pilots' views, since pilots seem to be more thoughtful and reflective than the layman. And I don't get to put forth my favorite "Law of Unintended Consequences"! [grin]

On this board you know who you're talking to, and I say let 'er rip! I don't object to personal attacks or uncivil behavior, because it provides insight into the character and thought processes of those doing it. [Personally it's not in my repertoire.] And it's tough on the moderators, because, like "how safe are you?", it's on a sliding scale without well-defined lines and very subjective. It's tough on participants because there is uncertainty about the rules, and thus truly open discussion is stifled. I'm for less rules, not more.
 
Tofu is good when its in asian food but it should not be passed off as a meat substitute! :vomit:
 
Dart said:
Well then, why not just eat chicken??? :yes:
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if you are with vegetarian friends you don't have much of a choice. there is a vegetarian restaurant near work, it's actually pretty good.
 
Greebo said:
I can appreciate your view - and in fact I think that a moderation team is being MOST effective when it appears to the general forum community at large that they don't seem to really be doing anything. But ultimately I disagree.

If you go back a bit - and look in particular for closed threads - you can see that there have been threads where the moderators have stepped in and either calmed things down or cut them off before they got out of hand. It didn't happen often, and as time progressed, the need to do it has happened less and less.

In every large forum in which I've participated (and thats not a small number of forums or themes), the most successful forums in my opinion have run like this. The moderators get involved very very rarely, and for the most part the community at large keeps the forum running on an even keel.

The thing about online forums - largely due in my opinion to the "screen width distance factor" - is that if left to their own devices without any intervention, they will degrade. One or two negative influences act not only directly, but also as a catalyst. Over time, the effect of one or two strongly negative types of posters corrupts the entire community - driving away some, causing others to sink in their level "just a little bit" in response to something, and then just a little more, and a little more.

The job of the moderators is, in my view, to catch those negative influences and contain them, or redirect them. In my experience, 8 or 9 times out of ten, someone with the potential to be extremely destructive to a community turns out, with a gentle nudge by a moderator at the right time, turns out to become one of the communities biggest advocates. Its almost an experiment in behavior modification... (yeah, I'm going thru training a puppy right now so its on my mind a lot).

Once the community gets running in the right direction, the mods need to do less and less because the community itself fosters the environment that it thrives upon.
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Fair enough...that's what I was kind of hinting at...that the tone is set and the moderators (in my brief experience over the past few months) haven't actually had to do much at all. So why the idea of changing it? It just smacks of trying to relegate some members into a box so other members don't have to see/hear/deal with them. And then it will be that much easier to get rid of it all together like the red board did.

Ron Levy said:
The reason for the suggested separate forum is that a number of folks have said they don't even want to see the non-aviation topics...
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Well, I don't know how else to say this without sounding offensive but I think that is just silly...but to each their own. Its not like those threads are viruses that will pop open uncontrolled demanding to be read! Well, I think the poll results so far speak for themselves :princess:
 
Joe Williams said:
Don't spend the money on new ones. Instead, check out the Headsets, Inc. conversion. I have that on my headsets and it works wonderfully. Plus, if the batteries ever die I've still got all the protection offered by the passive set to begin with. Most ANR sets don't offer as good a protection if the batteries die.
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So true, Joe. The batteries on my Bose died on the way to Toby's KLNS fly-in -- that helicopter sure got noisy real quick -- still I was able to hear the tower and other aircraft okay over the massive foop-foop-foop-foop ;)

You better believe that my first act after securing the helicopter on the grass opposite the west ramp was to change the batteries!
 
alaskaflyer said:
Fair enough...that's what I was kind of hinting at...that the tone is set and the moderators (in my brief experience over the past few months) haven't actually had to do much at all. So why the idea of changing it? It just smacks of trying to relegate some members into a box so other members don't have to see/hear/deal with them. And then it will be that much easier to get rid of it all together like the red board did.
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This isn't the first time we've asked for public opinion about how to handle non-av or political oriented posts.

As has been aptly pointed out - knowing what the community wants is important in the operation of a successful forum.

And for that matter, knowing what the majority wants sometimes helps us in dealing with the minority. Those who are dissatisfied are usually the most vocal. Real numbers are hard to argue with. :)

But please don't draw any conclusions about this PARTICULAR poll from what I've just said - I'm speaking generally here.
 
F.W. Birdman said:
Is that animal carcass and alcoholic intoxicants? OMG....oh wait, I am on the way...LOL
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Hey KP, there's at least 2 or the 4 basic food groups there -- meat and beer. You just need the other 2 -- potatoes and grease, easily combined into one with french fries :)
 
Greebo said:
This isn't the first time we've asked for public opinion about how to handle non-av or political oriented posts.

As has been aptly pointed out - knowing what the community wants is important in the operation of a successful forum.

And for that matter, knowing what the majority wants sometimes helps us in dealing with the minority. Those who are dissatisfied are usually the most vocal. Real numbers are hard to argue with. :)

But please don't draw any conclusions about this PARTICULAR poll from what I've just said - I'm speaking generally here.
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Roger that! And I do appreciate all that you and the others do.
 
RotaryWingBob said:
Hey KP, there's at least 2 or the 4 basic food groups there -- meat and beer. You just need the other 2 -- potatoes and grease, easily combined into one with french fries :)
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I see your 4 food groups and raise you two: fatty sauce and cheese!

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Poutine: The Greatest Food

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
astanley said:
I see your 4 food groups and raise you two: fatty sauce and cheese!

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Poutine: The Greatest Food

Cheers,

-Andrew
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Not so, Andrew. Fatty sauce and cheese fall loosely into the grease food group ;)
 
Mmmmm, meat .... munching on elk jerkey as I type... must be time to go to the freezer and decide what's for dinner (and no, it's not BEEF, at least not tonight) ...lessee what we have here... there's buffalo roast, elk tenderloin, ground venison (maybe tacos?), buffalo t-bone, elk roast, venison italian sausage (maybe spaghetti?), buffalo burgers, elk brats, choices choices choices... :D
 
gkainz said:
there's buffalo roast, elk tenderloin, ground venison (maybe tacos?), buffalo t-bone, elk roast, venison italian sausage (maybe spaghetti?), buffalo burgers, elk brats, choices choices choices... :D
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What time do we eat 'cuz I'm coming to your house for dinner!:D
 
Joe Williams said:
Don't spend the money on new ones. Instead, check out the Headsets, Inc. conversion. I have that on my headsets and it works wonderfully. Plus, if the batteries ever die I've still got all the protection offered by the passive set to begin with. Most ANR sets don't offer as good a protection if the batteries die.
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While Headsets Inc conversion is indeed a relatively inexpensive way to get ANR if you have a perfectly good non-ANR pair, it's not true that your DCs will perform as well passively after the conversion. Part of the passive attenuation comes from the sound absorbing material that must be removed or compressed to fit the conversion in the earcups. OTOH, you do still have the passive attenuation provided by the tight fit, and the discomfort that goes with it.
 
Dave Siciliano said:
Very nice to see you on here Dick! Looking forward to hearing from you some more.

Dave
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Thanks, Dave. I really enjoyed your Mexico rescue thread. Really under pressure good decision making. Glad to see you're getting that big twin weaned over to LOP!

Computer son moved to Irvine, CA, so I may be making a trip west sometime soon.
 
Dick Madding said:
Thanks, Dave. I really enjoyed your Mexico rescue thread. Really under pressure good decision making. Glad to see you're getting that big twin weaned over to LOP!

Computer son moved to Irvine, CA, so I may be making a trip west sometime soon.
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Hope your trips go well. If you have to stop at D/FW, please let me know!

I'll try to get more of the accident threads on here for the Beechcraft. I'm on other boards where these are discussed and haven't brought much info over here. The B-56TC that went down last week was a guy several folks on the Beech Board knew--lots of posts--it lead to a substantial discussion of oxygen use on the Red Board. The V-tail in San Antonio is a very nice guy that is well known; the V-tail up in Michigan is a great guy--he's still in a coma and his right seater has passed. There are more, but these were folks I either knew or knew of.

Dave
 
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gkainz said:
...lessee what we have here... there's buffalo roast, elk tenderloin, ground venison (maybe tacos?), buffalo t-bone, elk roast, venison italian sausage (maybe spaghetti?), buffalo burgers, elk brats, choices choices choices... :D
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You killing me Greg. We had Wooly Mamoth leftovers last night.
 
Anthony said:
Ha! You mean Indian, right? :)
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ummm, yeah (looks over shoulder for PC police) ... I've been thinking about that term a lot recently, in light of my not so pleasant experiences with "off-shored customer support", growing up near a reservation, and a recent discussion with my wife concerning the political protests in Ecuador, where our son is attending college. My wife related the newspaper story to me the other day where the "Indians" (in Ecuador) staged protests..." I asked her "Indians" as in "India immigrants" or "indigenous people of Ecuador"?

I guess since Columbus spoke in error regarding the people he met when he landed on these shores, I am beginning to mentally balk at the term "Indian" except when calling Bangalore for help with my Dell computer, my Sprint bill or most anything else now...
 
I'd say, learn from past behavior...What do they say..the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results? What happened on the AOPA board ? This one is better,,for now but I would bet that it won't stay this way.

Chuck O
 
overberger said:
I'd say, learn from past behavior...What do they say..the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results? What happened on the AOPA board ? This one is better,,for now but I would bet that it won't stay this way.
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I have to agree with Brian - you'll lose that bet. Slash'n'burn was only one possible cure to the problem AOPA was having. There were others that could have been implemented with a little extra effort, that would have kept the soapbox alive.
 
I hope I lose that bet although it seems that the tone and number of hostile posts has slowly crept up since soapbox was shut down. I do agree that AOPA could have done surgery instead of killing the patient.

Chuck O
 
overberger said:
I hope I lose that bet although it seems that the tone and number of hostile posts has slowly crept up since soapbox was shut down. I do agree that AOPA could have done surgery instead of killing the patient.

Chuck O
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In my opinion, you've already won the bet.
 
lurker said:
I unknowingly had horsemeat in Japan. I don't recall any particular flavor profile, probably because of the Kirin Ichiban.:rolleyes:
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I did, too. I thought it was a bit sweet compared to beef. And I think I had had only one beer (at least up to that point). :D
 
gkainz said:
Mmmmm, meat .... munching on elk jerkey as I type... must be time to go to the freezer and decide what's for dinner (and no, it's not BEEF, at least not tonight) ...lessee what we have here... there's buffalo roast, elk tenderloin, ground venison (maybe tacos?), buffalo t-bone, elk roast, venison italian sausage (maybe spaghetti?), buffalo burgers, elk brats, choices choices choices... :D
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Sounds like a successful hunting season last fall.
 
Is it possible to make a new forum for political talk, and not have it shown on the front page? I goto POA for the aviation posts as well as the fun posts. But the political posts are getting old to me, its always the same people with the same views and same spin.
When i log onto POA, i like to look at the front page for whats new, lately its been flooded with political posts. for me, i prefer not to read that, i would go to a polictical forum if i wanted to.
Just an idea.
 
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