Negative ANN article about Cirrus

3393RP said:
I'm going to guess that since the negotiated amount was insignificant, the IRS didn't come after him for taxes on the allegedly converted assets which paid his personal bills, and for the personal gain on sale of the Mooney...the trustee claimed the value as several hundred thousand dollars.
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The weird thing is, that the amount Campbell eventually paid ($18,561) was within a couple hundred dollars of the amount he owed the IRS, according to the paperwork filed at the time the settlement was made. According to the "Amended Affidavit of Default" filed by the Trustee on 15 May 2000:

"5. The amount due and owing the bankruptcy estate:
Note: $7,375.00
Claim #3: 0.00 (Per conversation with Citrus and Chemical
employee on 5/15/00, this claim has been paid in full
Claim #14: 18,296.90 (Per amended Proof of Claim filed by IRS"

I don't pretend to fully understand the legal paperwork from the Bankruptcy case. But it looks to me that he made payments until what the IRS was owed was covered, then stopped. The IRS probably would have forced a default judgement if they hadn't been satisfied; whoever had the note for $7,375 probably didn't care by then.

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
And.... Another One Bites the Dust:

12/03/2012 Motion (Generic)
of Lindell & Farson, P.A. to Withdraw as Counsel for Defendants

I'll order a copy of the motion this week.

Ron Wanttaja
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I guess he'll ask for more time in another handwritten filing.

Sort of like the kid who kills his parents and then asks for mercy because he's an orphan.
 
There are enough hungry lawyers in Florida that he will find someone else to represent him. Another 90 day extension on everything so his 'new' lawyer can make himself familiar with the case.....

The courts are broken.
 
He's at it again on ANN today.
Setting the stage for something. Can't wait.
 
jm0045 said:
He's at it again on ANN today.
Setting the stage for something. Can't wait.
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All I saw was a long, rambling piece about his life in aviation. I didn't get past the first paragraph, but scanning it, it doesn't seem related to his Cirrus lawsuit.
 
Steve Foley said:
All I saw was a long, rambling piece about his life in aviation. I didn't get past the first paragraph, but scanning it, it doesn't seem related to his Cirrus lawsuit.
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According to the article, it's a tease for the main event to follow shortly. We'll have to wait to find out which of the forces of evil and darkness he's up against this time.
 
jm0045 said:
He's at it again on ANN today.
Setting the stage for something. Can't wait.
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Docket now shows a notice of hearing, set for 15 January. Might be a reaction to that.

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
Docket now shows a notice of hearing, set for 15 January. Might be a reaction to that.

Ron Wanttaja
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The last motion to withdraw was quickly followed by a notice of hearing. Shortly after the hearing, the order granting the motion to withdraw was granted.

I suspect this hearing is for the motion to withdraw.
 
Steve Foley said:
All I saw was a long, rambling piece about his life in aviation. I didn't get past the first paragraph, but scanning it, it doesn't seem related to his Cirrus lawsuit.
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Here's how the current installment ends:

And yet… get this… there are those who would take all this from me, from you, from all of us… and in short order, I’ll get to the mid-point of my ramblings… and seek your help in setting right a number of great wrongs, and getting back on a positive, upward, transformative path, once again.
And yes, we CAN do this.
Stay tuned…

My guess is ANN is in financial trouble. Stand by for the money pitch.
 
jm0045 said:
Here's how the current installment ends:

And yet… get this… there are those who would take all this from me, from you, from all of us… and in short order, I’ll get to the mid-point of my ramblings… and seek your help in setting right a number of great wrongs, and getting back on a positive, upward, transformative path, once again.
And yes, we CAN do this.
Stay tuned…

My guess is ANN is in financial trouble. Stand by for the money pitch.
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According to Campbell's attorney, he's prepared a countersuit at Campbell's behest. This might be what all the build-up is heading towards.

Last time he countersued someone, I was named as a co-defendant. Have to see if history repeats itself. :)

Ron Wanttaja
 
jm0045 said:
He's at it again on ANN today.
Setting the stage for something. Can't wait.
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You still click and charge his advertisers to keep him going? I haven't clicked on an ANN link in years, and won't be starting. Nothing there EVER worth viewing, that wasn't already somewhere else...
 
denverpilot said:
You still click and charge his advertisers to keep him going? I haven't clicked on an ANN link in years, and won't be starting. Nothing there EVER worth viewing, that wasn't already somewhere else...
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Page clicks are irrelevant, IMHO. If Jim doesn't let his own marketing people see ANN visitor stats - as has been discussed here before - I rather doubt he shares the [actual] figures with current or prospective customers.

As far as content, there are still some occasional grains of wheat among the mountains of chaff. Wes Oleszewski's recent retrospectives on the Apollo and Shuttle programs have been pretty good.
 
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flightwriter said:
Page clicks are irrelevant, IMHO. If Jim doesn't let his own marketing people see ANN visitor stats - as has been discussed here before - I rather doubt he shares the [actual] figures with current or prospective customers.

As far as content, there are still some occasional grains of wheat among the mountains of chaff. Wes Oleszewski's recent retrospectives on the Apollo and Shuttle programs have been pretty good.
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Okay, different tactic... instead of appealing to the money side of it, I'll just say I don't click on websites of people who give aviation a bad name wherever they go. Better? :)
 
denverpilot said:
Okay, different tactic... instead of appealing to the money side of it, I'll just say I don't click on websites of people who give aviation a bad name wherever they go. Better? :)
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That's certainly fair! :rofl:

Alas, morbid curiosity makes me still click on Zoomland almost daily. I comfort myself with the knowledge my page clicks are almost assuredly statistically irrelevant.
 
wanttaja said:
According to Campbell's attorney, he's prepared a countersuit at Campbell's behest.
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How do you know that? The lawyer shouldn't be announcing litigation strategies before it's public, unless told to do so by his/her client.
 
wanttaja said:
And.... Another One Bites the Dust:

12/03/2012 Motion (Generic)
of Lindell & Farson, P.A. to Withdraw as Counsel for Defendants

I'll order a copy of the motion this week.
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Attached.

"2. Defendants have failed to substantially fulfill their obligations to the Law Firm under the agreement...."
"3. Furthermore, the Law Firm's representation has recently been rendered unreasonably difficult by the defendants."

Ron Wanttaja
 

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Steve Foley said:
How do you know that? The lawyer shouldn't be announcing litigation strategies before it's public, unless told to do so by his/her client.
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It's in the attorney's motion to withdraw, which you hadn't seen at that point, where I had visual access but was unable to post. Sorry about the confusion.

"5. Meanwhile, Law Firm has continued to protect Defendants' interests by...drafting a proposed counterclaim (awaiting client's approval to file)."

Ron Wanttaja
 
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wanttaja said:
Attached.

"2. Defendants have failed to substantially fulfill their obligations to the Law Firm under the agreement...."
"3. Furthermore, the Law Firm's representation has recently been rendered unreasonably difficult by the defendants."

Ron Wanttaja
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And they told Campbell they were quitting him back on October 8. So if the judge sees that he has had two months now to find new representation, I wonder how much time he'll have to find another one? What's the usual judicial procedure for handling somebody playing that kind of game?
 
weilke said:
There are enough hungry lawyers in Florida that he will find someone else to represent him. Another 90 day extension on everything so his 'new' lawyer can make himself familiar with the case....
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In his motion to withdraw, Campbell's attorney flatly states a date that Campbell was informed he'd need a new attorney. It was almost two months ago. He'll have a harder time pleading ignorance. By the hearing date, Campbell will have known for 90 days already. Cirrus may well ask for a relatively short deadline for him to obtain another.

Also the motion to withdraw says, "Defendants have failed to substantially fulfill their obligations to the Law Firm...." which I presume means, "financial obligations." If Campbell isn't paying his legal bills, them hungry lawyers aren't going to be as interested.

One possibility is that A. Campbell is going to announce that he's filing a lawsuit "to protect the rights of the everyday aviator", and B. Campbell is going to announce a new "legal defense fund" so that other people can pay for the new crusade.

This does throw the deposition into question. Campbell is probably on strong grounds to demand it be delayed substantially.

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
"3. Furthermore, the Law Firm's representation has recently been rendered unreasonably difficult by the defendants."
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I wonder whether he holds some kind of record on having that line in motions with his name on the banner.
 
Jim Logajan said:
What's the usual judicial procedure for handling somebody playing that kind of game?
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I'd say there's a chance the judge will deny the motion to withdraw.

I don't know how the Florida courts work. In Massachusetts, the judges are under considerable pressure to keep things moving along and frequently deny any request/motions that will delay things.
 
Yeah BUT - having one lawyer (judge) tell another lawyer he has to do the work for free is original sin in legal land. It just does not happen - only in the most dire of circumstances and this hardly resembles that.

Watching this unfold is the most fun I've had in years. Thanks Ron..

I'm taking notes and if I E V E R get into legal hot water I am going to use xyZ's playbook and drive the system crazy.
 
Dr. O said:
Yeah BUT - having one lawyer (judge) tell another lawyer he has to do the work for free is original sin in legal land. It just does not happen - only in the most dire of circumstances and this hardly resembles that.
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I think if Campbell had been the plaintiff, you'd be right for sure. But I'm not sure the judge will deny a private-citizen defendant the opportunity to have counsel. It's obvious that Campbell will probably have trouble finding another lawyer; the judge may see denial of the motion being the only way the case can complete in a (relatively) short time.

Cirrus filed a motion for summary judgement back in May. I don't believe the judge ever ruled on it. So I guess it's still on the table....

In any case, I wonder if Cirrus might have some grounds for getting an order to turn over the aircraft to them in the interim. If Campbell cannot afford an attorney, he cannot afford the several thousands of dollars in annual maintenance that an an aircraft like that demands, and he cannot afford the fuel to fly a hundred hours per year like the engine manufacturer recommends. The collateral used for the loan is degrading, and Cirrus would have an interest in stopping that.

Ron Wanttaja
 
Installment two is out on ANN, wherein Campbell recounts his various battles with the forces of evil and darkness, and foreshadows his pitch for help.
 
kyleb said:
Link? That site is so poorly organized, it is a chore to find what I'm looking for.
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Why drive up his Google page ranking with a link on an indexed site?

Barnstorming: On Being A Good Aero-Citizen–The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (Part 2)

About the 3rd story down on the left as of today.
 
I read both parts. And then I saw the picture of Captain Zoom hugging a puppy. How could that guy ever distort the truth? I mean, he hugs puppies. Isn't that the mark of all that is right and good in the world?
 
I see he is now advertising for the Eclipse, again :) . How long do we think it will take for him to turn on them.
 
weilke said:
I see he is now advertising for the Eclipse, again :) . How long do we think it will take for him to turn on them.
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If they manage him properly, never. Feed his ego ("We want you to be the first to fly the new model!"), feed him a little money ("We'll send you an airline ticket so you can come fly our new model!"), and you'll get continuous good press as long as you can keep it up.

There used to be an anti-eclipse web page five years or so ago, that also posted some stories about Campbell harassing them. Some stuff still there: http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com/ Search for "Campbell" several times, various stuff there.

I see they claim Zoom was out $80,000 when Eclipse went bankrupt last time.

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
There used to be an anti-eclipse web page five years or so ago, that also posted some stories about Campbell harassing them. Some stuff still there: http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com/ Search for "Campbell" several times, various stuff there.
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Grrmmphhfff:rofl::rofl::

WEDGE AND ZOOM
After a long courtship Vern Raburn and Jim Campbell were married. The ceremony was held in the Green Mountains of Vermont, one of the first states to permit gay marriage. Vern offered an olive branch of reconciliation to the ‘Honor Roll’ by inviting them to the wedding. Few of the twenty-nine bloggers named in the 2008 lawsuit were able to attend. But a report came back that the newlyweds have acquired a bed-and-breakfast in a quaint Vermont village and produce the best blueberry pancakes in the state. “Our disruptive recipe represents a paradigm shift in early morning nutrition for the fair state of Vermont,” said Raburn. “The other bed-and-breakfasts just don’t get it. What would you expect of dinosaurs?”

From http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com/
 
jm0045 said:
Installment two is out on ANN, wherein Campbell recounts his various battles with the forces of evil and darkness, and foreshadows his pitch for help.
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That sort of thing reminds me of the "Far Side" cartoon, showing two tiny spiders who have stretched a web across a playground slide: "But if we can pull it off, we'll eat like kings!"

Campbell has had success with such appeals in the past. I remember meeting a guy at one of the Pinkneyville fly-ins... over the past year, he'd given Campbell something like $8,000, free and clear. Campbell was attacking a company, and this guy also had problems with the company. He enjoyed seeing them slammed, and felt it was money well spent.

It's not far-fetched that there are a couple of unhappy Cirrus customers out there, and folks that buy half-million-dollar airplanes are often fairly well off. One who has had a lawyer tell him that he had no chance in his OWN lawsuit might well enjoy watching Campbell tweek Cirrus as long as possible. All Campbell's got to do is find them.

(For that matter, some of you folks have been enjoying the show too much :)

If someone gave Campbell $10,000, that'd make a pretty good retainer for hiring a new lawyer.

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
If someone gave Campbell $10,000, that'd make a pretty good retainer for hiring a new lawyer.
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That's about 40hrs, given the number of motions and denials he has to file, that'll keep him going for another 6 months.
 
He's marrying a young girl. Puppy love. Yawn.
 
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