Mesa AZ incident.

[pmanton]

It looks like a plane is down near Mesa at Falcon Field in AZ.
No details yet.

 

[NJP_MAN]

Lots of details. It was a Honda jet departing for provo

 

[dans2992]

Never lifted off on takeoff run. Went off the end of the runway at 89 kts.

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[Scrabo]

Heard different numbers for SOB..

 

[Jim Carpenter]

5 fatalities. RIP.

Accident Honda HA-420 HondaJet N57HP, Tuesday 5 November 2024

A Honda HA-420 HondaJet, N57HP, crashed during a takeoff attempt from runway 22L at Falcon Field Airport (FFZ/KFFZ), Mesa, Arizona. The five occupants perished and the aircraft was destr...

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[iamtheari]

Never lifted off on takeoff run. Went off the end of the runway at 89 kts.

Does anyone here know how the control locks work on a Honda Jet?

 

[AV8R_87]

What a preventable tragedy if it was caused by locked controls.

Reports say they ran through the perimeter fence and hit a car.
Some of the victims might not have been in the plane.

 

[flyingron]

Gust locks on the Honda jet wrap around the yoke and externally on the rudder.

 

[iamtheari]

Gust locks on the Honda jet wrap around the yoke and externally on the rudder.

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It would be pretty hard to miss that on the yoke.

 

[sansoneservices]

It looks like a plane is down near Mesa at Falcon Field in AZ.
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89 knots? I'm curious to know Vr for that plane

 

[dans2992]

89 knots? I'm curious to know Vr for that plane

It reached 133kts before what looks like an attempted abort. I don’t think insufficient speed was the issue.

 

[Tools]

Flaps not set?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Flaps not set?

It's a straight wing jet. Even with flaps up it won't change the take off dynamics that much.

 

[Doc Holliday]

It reached 133kts before what looks like an attempted abort. I don’t think insufficient speed was the issue.

The HondaJet has had a series of problems with the brakes.

 

[Jim_R]

Reports say they ran through the perimeter fence and hit a car.
Some of the victims might not have been in the plane.

The report linked in reply #5 says 4 on the jet and 1 in the car hit by the jet. The pilot had "serious injuries".

 

[MFE]

Aren't HondaJets known for attempted takeoffs with parking brakes applied?

 

[BillTIZ]

Aren't HondaJets known for attempted takeoffs with parking brakes applied?

I believe that was Citations..

 

[skyking3286]

Listen to ATC. He had a fire off the end of the runway where he had just cleared the jet to depart and then cleared a plane to take off into the column of smoke before he caught on there was a crash. And still didn’t close the field. Retraining will be needed! Regardless of the crash, the ATC response will receive as much discussion.

 

[MauleSkinner]

Listen to ATC. He had a fire off the end of the runway where he had just cleared the jet to depart and then cleared a plane to take off into the column of smoke before he caught on there was a crash. And still didn’t close the field. Retraining will be needed! Regardless of the crash, the ATC response will receive as much discussion.

ATC isn’t authorized to close the field. They just control traffic in and out of it.

 

[frfly172]

Sad condolences to the families RIP

 

[dans2992]

The report linked in reply #5 says 4 on the jet and 1 in the car hit by the jet. The pilot had "serious injuries".

My info (word of mouth) indicates it was the son of the owner sitting in the passenger section that survived. He’s been released from the hospital. The fuselage broke and the cockpit separated.

Anecdotal reports that the trucks initially used water on the fire, which spread a flaming pool of Jet A. Disclaimer - I wasn’t there, I didn’t see it, this is just what I heard.