Is this Jogger a Jerk?

Is this Jogger a Jerk

  • Yes, He was WAY out of line!

    Votes: 71 84.5%
  • No, the Driver deserved it.

    Votes: 13 15.5%

  • Total voters
    84
Why are you guys all turning on me? I didn't do it and I never said what my relationship with the guy was. I said 'friend'. That could mean life long buddies or 'guy I know at the gym'.

Freaking relax out there!

Sorry, but the company you keep reflects on you. Moreover, the actions of your "friend" were sufficiently egregious to make your need of a poll somewhat questionable.

Like I said, you need new friends. I don't associate myself with people who display such behavior. I don't have sufficient time on Earth left to waste with such individuals.
 
I don't identify with either choice. Your buddy is neither, he just lacks class and style. Had he had class and style he would have quietly leaped or vaulted over the car and not broke stride. THAT would have f-ed with her good. Instead your buddy chose to be boorish and f-ed with her bad. From what I see around and read around, that just makes him an average American.

Boorish? "Average American?"

No, he's an "Average" ****ole... And those aren't of one nationality!
 
Sorry, but the company you keep reflects on you. Moreover, the actions of your "friend" were sufficiently egregious to make your need of a poll somewhat questionable.

Like I said, you need new friends. I don't associate myself with people who display such behavior. I don't have sufficient time on Earth left to waste with such individuals.

I don't understand this. It's been said a couple of times. How is my posting a poll read as condoning what he did? This is a non aviation section of a forum. Forums are for sharing and discussing.

I witnessed an event and shared that event here. Obviously some people on this planet think what he did was just fine. I, on the other hand, was a bit shocked and dismayed. So, I throw it up here and let others weigh in. I fail to see where I did anything improper. Should I have tackled him and waited for the cops?

Like I said, he's an adult and responsible for his actions. I did call him my 'friend' in the OP.That's for convenience. I didn't think it necessary or relivant to describe my relationship to him. The poll and thread are about his actions. If it makes anyone here feel better I barley know him and our relationship is much closer to the 'guy I know from the gym' than the life long buddies.
 
Boorish? "Average American?"

No, he's an "Average" ****ole... And those aren't of one nationality!


I'll tell you what, take a trip to Jakarta and you will see that is not a necessity. Every American should take Drivers Ed in Jakarta. First off you will never complain about traffic anywhere else. Second you will have had an example of social cooperation and politeness you would do well to emulate. There is no road rage among the drivers. There are scooters weaving forward through all the cars and trucks like a drive of army ants and people just make room for each other.

I travel the world regularly. Americans are both the most boorish and generous.
 
The look on her face was about the same as the look on my face...flabbergasted. The difference is when he jumped off my dropped jaw turned into a smile and hers not so much. ; )

What's even more interesting would have been to have seen the "jumped off my dropped jaw" scenario. It's amazing how the lack of a comma can change the structure/interpretation of a sentence.

:eek:)
 
The fun part comes when there's a cop around (or in the car) and hauls friend off to jail for disorderly conduct..

BTW, I just got a quote of $500 to repaint the hood of my car. Friend would be liable for any damage done to the vehicle he jumped on, which could easily involve repainting the hood.
 
The fun part comes when there's a cop around (or in the car) and hauls friend off to jail for disorderly conduct..

BTW, I just got a quote of $500 to repaint the hood of my car. Friend would be liable for any damage done to the vehicle he jumped on, which could easily involve repainting the hood.


However, your failing to take what punishment you were dealt out by society for driving poorly and escalating it to a court level opens to them escalating to injury level in court. So if you're going to react at all, you might as well hurt or kill the guy, you'll be better off. "I freaked! here's this maniac jumping on my hood screaming at me!!! I just paniced and floored it to get out of there, I was scared for my life and I don't carry a gun." Now you get 10xs the damages and no trouble and he's responsible for his own medical bills.
 
I don't understand this. It's been said a couple of times. How is my posting a poll read as condoning what he did? This is a non aviation section of a forum. Forums are for sharing and discussing.

If you posted a poll asking if the sky is blue, we might wonder why.

I witnessed an event and shared that event here. Obviously some people on this planet think what he did was just fine. I, on the other hand, was a bit shocked and dismayed. So, I throw it up here and let others weigh in. I fail to see where I did anything improper. Should I have tackled him and waited for the cops?

Again, right or wrong, folks will tend to judge you by the company you keep. Had I witness such an event and wanted to share it here, I might have used somewhat different context, e.g. "you wouldn't believe what this 'hard I was running with did, boy I'll never accompany him again". I don't mean to put words in your mouth, jus show and example of what I'm thinking.

Like I said, he's an adult and responsible for his actions. I did call him my 'friend' in the OP.That's for convenience. I didn't think it necessary or relivant to describe my relationship to him. The poll and thread are about his actions. If it makes anyone here feel better I barley know him and our relationship is much closer to the 'guy I know from the gym' than the life long buddies.

Gotcha. Vagueness in the word "friend". I might have used the words "jogging colleague", but who ever says exactly the right thing at the right time.

Glad no one reacted any worse than that, and that no one got hurt. And I still think you need new jogging colleagues.
 
I don't understand this. It's been said a couple of times. How is my posting a poll read as condoning what he did? This is a non aviation section of a forum. Forums are for sharing and discussing.

I witnessed an event and shared that event here. Obviously some people on this planet think what he did was just fine. I, on the other hand, was a bit shocked and dismayed. So, I throw it up here and let others weigh in. I fail to see where I did anything improper. Should I have tackled him and waited for the cops?

Like I said, he's an adult and responsible for his actions. I did call him my 'friend' in the OP.That's for convenience. I didn't think it necessary or relivant to describe my relationship to him. The poll and thread are about his actions. If it makes anyone here feel better I barley know him and our relationship is much closer to the 'guy I know from the gym' than the life long buddies.

Oh, relax. This is an Internet forum. It's supposed to be, among other things, fun. So lighten up.

The comments questioning the wisdom of your friendship with this guy are just observations of a social reality: People tend to associate with people with whom they have something in common. So if your friend is a jerk, there's a statistically significant increase in the likelihood that you are also a jerk (or at least have some jerky tendencies).

If the only thing you have in common with this individual is that you jog together once in a while, then there's no need to take the comments personally. The "jerk by association" factor is proportional to the closeness of the friendship. Knowing a jerk is not the same as being friends with a jerk.

So now it's clear that your "friend" is just a guy you jog with once in a while, and barely know otherwise. Had you mentioned that "irrelevant" detail up front, the comments implying jerkiness by association most likely wouldn't have been made. But your use of the word "friend," in the absence of more details, was ambiguous enough to create sufficient empty space for speculation.

Remember: Both nature and Internet forums despise a vacuum.

-Rich
 
Captain..I think the larger issue is that you felt a need to create a poll to get an opinion on the guy. Had I been with someone that did that, I'd have just ran the other way. If I posted it on PoA it'd be more like "This guy whom I thought was a good guy, turned out to be a total ******* today when he decided to jump on someone's hood while we were jogging."
 
I never said I laughed. I said my dropped jaw turned into a smile while hers not so much. It was more a turn of a phrase. By 'smile' I didn't imply approval. More of, look what 'Larry' did now. Obviously I'm not exactly in full support mode for my friend here...that's the reason for the thread.

Not sure why you're calling me an idiot here...what did I do? He's a big boy and doesn't ask me for permission for anything. His actions are just that, his.

OK, I'll stipulate that you smiled instead of laughed. My assertion is the same for both of you.

I think we are all drawing our conclusions based upon what we have noticed in human behavior by living life.

I've seen some idiots do damage to cars after a football game because someone had the audacity to have the wrong team logo on their car. The non-violating friends, jogging acquantances, whatever, laughed or smiled, as in "Dude, I can't believe you did that. That was awesome!" They didn't exactly react in horror.

On the other hand, if I saw a friend commit property damage and terrorize a woman, I'm pretty confident a smile would never come to my face; a "What the **** are you doing?" would be more appropriate.

Finally, feeling the need to ask a poll whether your friend or jogging acquantance is a jerk - they guy you smiled at - kind of makes you an - well, you get the picture.
 
Definite jerk. Actually, I would use much sterner words for the stupid, idiotic, childish act that ******* performed in public. If the woman in that car was my Mother, my sister, my daughter, niece, wife or girlfriend, and if I knew who he was, he would constantly need to be checking over his shoulder.

Stupid people like that really tick me off. They need more than a sign.

And the jury is still out on people that call him a friend, but at least you recognized the issue. But I wish you did more than smile afterwards. Perhaps a backhand would have helped.
 
Random, unrelated ramblings...


Jeff Foxworthy's alter ego act as a shrink, "You might have emotional maturity issues if:"

1. You take no responsibility for events.
An emotionally immature person consistently plays "victim" about events and is unable to reflect on what he or she did to contribute to the result.​
2. You make conversations "all about me".
An emotionally immature person steers conversations to ensure he or she is the center of the topic. Immature people also interpret discussions about issues through a "personal filter" that makes the issue about them. They have difficulty separating issues from their ego or personal reactions to the topic.​
3. You talk more than listen.
Authentic listening requires one to learn about the views and thoughts of others. As a result of it, people deepen their understanding, compassion and empathy. An immature person does not take the time to do this. As a result, they cannot deepen their emotional awareness.​
4. You are quick to anger or blow a fuse.
Emotionally immature people react impatiently, throw a tantrum, swear, act out or get belligerent when things don't go the way they want or expect. They do not mange frustration with the realities of life well, nor manage easily unexpected transitions in processes or routines. Rather than draw on inner tolerance or belief in oneself to manage change, the emotionally immature have a melt-down.​
5. You make thinking errors.
Many of the behaviors of the emotionally immature come from flaws in their logic. They often misinterpret social cues, jump to conclusions that are not well thought through or get stuck by beliefs about themselves or others that make it difficult for them to see their own error in thought. It's a form of mental stubbornness. An emotionally mature person opens up to others suggestions or reasoning and considers how it might alter how to consider a topic differently.​

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Bottom line your friend nearly got both you killed.

She easily could have run him over then aimed for the "rapist carjacker's partner in crime"

Many states shed be asleep in her own bed that night.
 
Would anyone be surprised if I told you my 'friend' was also female?
 
I admit an intentional misdirection. I had a feeling gender would make a difference.
 
Ok ditch the word rapist from my last post. Changes noting else. Try that with my hood and I'm throwing you off regardless of color, creed, or gender.
 
You called you friend "he" in your first post and in the poll. You mean you can't tell? :rofl: :D


Wait wait now... time out. I lived a few years in SF and I will never assume to judge gender without a package check.:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
If she was female, then calling her a "jerk" is inaccurate, given the word's etymological origins.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a feminine or gender-neutral alternative that fully conveys the meaning of the word "jerk." The closest that occurs to me offhand is "ditz," but ditz lacks the element of intentional jerkitude conveyed by jerk. Ditziness is usually a product of superficiality and cluelessnes, whereas jerkitude implies willfulness.

Perhaps "jerkette" might be a possibility...

-Rich
 
If she was female, then calling her a "jerk" is inaccurate, given the word's etymological origins.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a feminine or gender-neutral alternative that fully conveys the meaning of the word "jerk." The closest that occurs to me offhand is "ditz," but ditz lacks the element of intentional jerkitude conveyed by jerk. Ditziness is usually a product of superficiality and cluelessnes, whereas jerkitude implies willfulness.

Perhaps "jerkette" might be a possibility...

-Rich

How about a 'rub'? pinch, flick, smack...:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Would anyone be surprised if I told you my 'friend' was also female?

I would be surprised but it would not change my answer.
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El Paso Pilot, did you think those up or is there a source, I found them interesting.
 
If she was female, then calling her a "jerk" is inaccurate, given the word's etymological origins.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a feminine or gender-neutral alternative that fully conveys the meaning of the word "jerk." The closest that occurs to me offhand is "ditz," but ditz lacks the element of intentional jerkitude conveyed by jerk. Ditziness is usually a product of superficiality and cluelessnes, whereas jerkitude implies willfulness.

Perhaps "jerkette" might be a possibility...

-Rich
There is a word, just not used as much on this side of the pond:wink2:
 
Would anyone be surprised if I told you my 'friend' was also female?

I would be surprised, since I make it a habit not to lie to my friends. Perhaps that association is truer to the mark than I at first thought.

A pity there is no female equivalent word for "jerk", since there are clearly equivalent females.
 
I would be surprised, since I make it a habit not to lie to my friends. Perhaps that association is truer to the mark than I at first thought.

A pity there is no female equivalent word for "jerk", since there are clearly equivalent females.

Oh, there are...but I'm told that we aren't allowed to use them in mixed company.
 
Would anyone be surprised if I told you my 'friend' was also female?

It wouldn't surprise me that your 'friend' is a woman. Being a woman doesn't mean she can't also be an arse.
 
El Paso Pilot, did you think those up or is there a source, I found them interesting.


Quickly adapted from Google and Donna Hamlin, as I didn't have my usual sources with me.

Lack of emotional maturity -- often accompanied by a lack of organizational awareness (i.e., "the sky is falling" emails cc:'d to the entire org chart) are warning flags used at the office as we evaluate potential leaders. Not hard to spot, and have watched a lot of it posted here as of late.
 
Quickly adapted from Google and Donna Hamlin, as I didn't have my usual sources with me.

That is awesome, powerful. I have never seen that put into words. Thanks. Now, how to tell those around you with this problem...that they have this problem!
Could it be that those with low E. M. won't get it?!
Probably should be a whole course in high school on this.
 
That is awesome, powerful. I have never seen that put into words. Thanks. Now, how to tell those around you with this problem...that they have this problem!
Could it be that those with low E. M. won't get it?!
Probably should be a whole course in high school on this.

In our work environment, its pretty straight forward.

Everyone is rated against a list of desired "leadership characteristics." Actual positive and negative performance examples are discussed directly with their manager.

Pretty painful for some employees the first couple times -- there's nothing like seeing examples of your own immature behavior laid out in front of you.

If you are unable to recognize your behavior as an issue, others peers and leaders are asked to weigh in.

Most people either get it at that point, or decide that they are not willing or able to make the cultural adjustment being asked of them and find other opportunities.


Now .... having this discussion with someone outside of work who doesn't report to you, not always so easy. :no:
 
Why are you guys all turning on me? I didn't do it and I never said what my relationship with the guy was. I said 'friend'. That could mean life long buddies or 'guy I know at the gym'.

Freaking relax out there!
Guilt by association...
FACEBOOK, MYSPACE, and other social networks have redefined "friend". A friend is someone you'd do almost anything for. An acquaintance is someone you know.
Maybe the social networks should redefine "friend" status as 1 in 6Billion on the face of the planet that managed to land on your page.
 
Guilt by association...
FACEBOOK, MYSPACE, and other social networks have redefined "friend". A friend is someone you'd do almost anything for. An acquaintance is someone you know.
Maybe the social networks should redefine "friend" status as 1 in 6Billion on the face of the planet that managed to land on your page.

Try this on for reality:
U.S. 313,349,424
World 7,006,545,893
12:50 UTC (EST+5) Apr 12, 2012
 
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