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Supposedly fixes Bluetooth GPS issue...
 
Great.... More BS speed robbing updating to justify a paycheck.
 
i used to have an iphone..then ios whatever came out and the thing didn't have enough memory to install it so i quit having an iphone. I'm all about people enjoying their shiny new toys, but planned obsolescence antagonizes me as a consumer. Homey don't play that.
 
hindsight2020 said:
i used to have an iphone..then ios whatever came out and the thing didn't have enough memory to install it so i quit having an iphone. I'm all about people enjoying their shiny new toys, but planned obsolescence antagonizes me as a consumer. Homey don't play that.
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Granted Apple takes it to extremes which indeed annoys the crap out of me as well, with this technology, obsolescence in a few years is something that will happen planned or not.
 
When you buy an iDevice (or just about any device) you are really leasing it for 2 years. After that, you'll need another one if you want to stay up to date.

Mentally accept that when purchasing and it gets easier.

This is why I refuse to buy an apple watch. It's priced more than I would normally pay for a watch and it's useful lifetime is _far_ less.
 
8.4 downloaded. Seems to be fine but for me 8.3 was fine. Some guys seem to look for unhappiness. Life's too short. But heck, I love my iPhone. My day to day life management is far better with it than without it.
 
I used to buy the Garmin portable from the 155 up to and including the 496.i just put it in the budget,also would trade in the old unit,as soon as a new one was out. Now I'm playing that game with IPads,I'm now on an IPad Air full size.Just part of the game.
 
dans2992 said:
When you buy an iDevice (or just about any device) you are really leasing it for 2 years. After that, you'll need another one if you want to stay up to date.

Mentally accept that when purchasing and it gets easier.

This is why I refuse to buy an apple watch. It's priced more than I would normally pay for a watch and it's useful lifetime is _far_ less.
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I saw something on the net a few days ago about the next version of the iWatch. Did not take long. Supposedly adding a camera.

David
 
Henning said:
Granted Apple takes it to extremes which indeed annoys the crap out of me as well, with this technology, obsolescence in a few years is something that will happen planned or not.
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I believe the obsolescence is planned and not because more advanced technology comes along. I would be happy running my $300 XP Office Pro software forever because it does everything I need it to do and more, but it won't run on Windows 8.1. And I'd be perfectly happy running my 430 forever, but Garmin will certainly drop support sometime in the future and not allow 3rd parties to repair the box.

Planned obsolescence indeed. On the backs of us rubes.
 
dans2992 said:
When you buy an iDevice (or just about any device) you are really leasing it for 2 years. After that, you'll need another one if you want to stay up to date.

Mentally accept that when purchasing and it gets easier.

This is why I refuse to buy an apple watch. It's priced more than I would normally pay for a watch and it's useful lifetime is _far_ less.
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I don't know, I bought the 32GB iPad2 when it first came out and didn't replace it until last December, mostly because I wanted more memory, everything still worked fine.

As for Apple watch, I haven't yet quite figured out why I would want one, but I don't really want any watch and never wear them.
 
On-wrist notifications without pulling out your phone is the main reason. But, you can do that with an $80 pebble watch whose battery lasts an entire week.
 
dans2992 said:
On-wrist notifications without pulling out your phone is the main reason. But, you can do that with an $80 pebble watch whose battery lasts an entire week.
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Yeah, not fond enough of something on my wrist to make that worthwhile for me.
 
If I'm doing something mechanical, I do take it off. Then again, I'm not the most mechanical guy so that's a rare occasion.... :)
 
Back in the 90's I had a Timex Datalink that would sync with Outlook. You held the watch in front of a CRT screen and it would dump your Outlook calendar into the watch. I had it to alarm 10 minutes before meetings. Kept me out of trouble. Also useful seeing what my future calendar looked like. It also held contacts, so I didn't have to carry my Palm Pilot or a Rolodex with me either. But now I'm like Henning and I hate wearing watches, but if I still worked, I think this new watch would be very useful.
 
Got the Watch, I'm digging it.
 
Stewartb said:
Funny, I keep my wedding band on to prevent injury!
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I watched a guy get his hung up on an O2 bottle rack as it got crane lifted off the deck with him out of the view of the operator. He was 20' off the deck before I could get to our PA mic when his finger let loose and he hit the deck (luckily the crane hadn't swung over the side yet as we were both jacked up over 100' above the water and the receiving crew boat below). He was back the next hitch minus his left ring finger.:(
 
Jimmy Fallon is off for the next three weeks because of a jewelry accident that almost ripped off his finger...

I'm resigned to replacing whatever phone I have, and tablet too, every couple of years. From a business prospective, the cost is nothing compared to the utility/productivity they offer.
 
Henning said:
Granted Apple takes it to extremes which indeed annoys the crap out of me as well, with this technology, obsolescence in a few years is something that will happen planned or not.
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Henning said:
I don't know, I bought the 32GB iPad2 when it first came out and didn't replace it until last December, mostly because I wanted more memory, everything still worked fine.
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Those statements read a bit contradictory to me. The iPad 2 came out in March, 2011, and they are still supporting it, 4 years later.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Those statements read a bit contradictory to me. The iPad 2 came out in March, 2011, and they are still supporting it, 4 years later.
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Yeah, what Apple does that annoys me is leaving out features that are perfectly available at the time and adding them next year for the annual upgrade sell-a-thon. It doesn't affect me personally, as I won't buy the unit unless it has all the features I want, but creates a lot of waste among the fanboys.
 
Henning said:
Yeah, not fond enough of something on my wrist to make that worthwhile for me.
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The only thing I find myself even using on the garmin D2 is the timer feature for switching tanks above 5k.

As far as jewelry goes, I've carried someone's severed finger to the ER thanks to a ring accident
 
Apple may have just changed the way be manage music... again. Apple Music has a subscription that allows you unlimited access to an incredible music inventory. Not just songs but full albums. And you can elect to save for offline listening. I suspect that offline access is dependent on an active subscription but still. For a monthly fee you can eliminate music purchases. For me that's a pretty big savings on an annual basis. 8.4 includes Apple Music and you can get a free 3 month trial. Mine's playing now. Very cool.
 
All jewelry comes off on the farm ...

I have not let my mini update the OS because I read it's causing issues with Garmin Pilot. Mine is working fine now and I don't want to muck it up.
 
I haven't upgraded to 8.3 yet. You early adopters let me know when it's safe to come out of my 8.2 shell and install 8.4...definitely won't be before Aug 1.
 
Henning said:
Yeah, what Apple does that annoys me is leaving out features that are perfectly available at the time and adding them next year for the annual upgrade sell-a-thon. It doesn't affect me personally, as I won't buy the unit unless it has all the features I want, but creates a lot of waste among the fanboys.
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Still sounds contradictory. If it doesn't affect you personally, why should it annoy you?:dunno:
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Then you must be a very annoyed person. I'm not sure what is being wasted here, but whatever. It runs on the same tablet.
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Very annoyed since 70%+ of all our energy we produce is waste heat, even more when you figure in wasted base load on the grid.
 
timwinters said:
I haven't upgraded to 8.3 yet. You early adopters let me know when it's safe to come out of my 8.2 shell and install 8.4...definitely won't be before Aug 1.
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Ha, I am not an early adopter either. Fear can be your friend in cases of software updates. :yes:

Also, $$ is a big deal to me and buying a product early costs a lot more. Besides if what I currently have still works and serves my mission, why buy new and shiny just because it's new and shiny?

Early Adopter = Guinea Pig. But I'm glad they are willing to lead the way. :wink2:
 
Henning said:
Very annoyed since 70%+ of all our energy we produce is waste heat, even more when you figure in wasted base load on the grid.
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Well, show some leadership here. Apple annoys you, don't buy their products.

It would help if you show a citation for your number you mentioned, given your track record of making things up.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Well, show some leadership here. Apple annoys you, don't buy their products.

It would help if you show a citation for your number you mentioned, given your track record of making things up.
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Thermal efficiency of all our power plants except a very few range between 25% and 35%.
 
Henning said:
Thermal efficiency of all our power plants except a very few range between 25% and 35%.
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That is a citation? All you did was subtract one number from another and said the same thing. Again a citation given your record of making stuff up?

What does this have to do with Apple annoying you by not putting a feature in the tablet, that you don't care about personally?
 
Cap'n Jack said:
That is a citation? All you did was subtract one number from another and said the same thing. Again a citation given your record of making stuff up?

What does this have to do with Apple annoying you by not putting a feature in the tablet, that you don't care about personally?
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I dint bring it up asswipe, you did. If you don't know the TE of our technology, look it the **** up.
 
Considering 8.3 came out almost three months ago and it had a defect that affected many of us...that was never fixed until now...three months later...

...I'd say Apple was lifting a big middle finger towards their customers.
 
8.3 affected a small minority. It never upset my uses including Foreflight and Garmin Pilot. You guys make mountains of molehills. 8.4 appears to be working perfectly, too.
 
timwinters said:
Considering 8.3 came out almost three months ago and it had a defect that affected many of us...that was never fixed until now...three months later...

...I'd say Apple was lifting a big middle finger towards their customers.
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Like Google is much better?

Except we're not customers to Google, we're the product being sold.
 
Stewartb said:
8.3 affected a small minority. It never upset my uses including Foreflight and Garmin Pilot. You guys make mountains of molehills. 8.4 appears to be working perfectly, too.
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You are right. It probably was a small minority. But to those who have a non-cellular iPad and thus no internal GPS and rely on an external GPS such as the Dual, it was or could of been a big deal. In my case it was "could of" as I always delay updating until I know it is safe. Even today, I am not rushing to update to 8.4. I am not even sure what benefit it provides me that I need right the eff now. Unfortunately some folks do upgrade right away and it made their Dual and other external GPS units useless and thereby reduced the functionality of their ForeFlight as far as the moving map is concerned. Not a life threatening thing but an inconvenience that the customer base expected (not unrealistically) to have corrected in a more timely fashion.

Just my two cents.
 
I haven't looked Apple's version yet. How is it different from the already existing services like Spotify that let you do the same thing?

I have bought maybe 1-2 albums (digital or physical) in 2+ years; just about everything I want is included in a Spotify subscription.

Very similar to me poopooing e-readers for years and then never buying a physical book after installing the Kindle app on my phone and tablet.

Stewartb said:
Apple may have just changed the way be manage music... again. Apple Music has a subscription that allows you unlimited access to an incredible music inventory. Not just songs but full albums. And you can elect to save for offline listening. I suspect that offline access is dependent on an active subscription but still. For a monthly fee you can eliminate music purchases. For me that's a pretty big savings on an annual basis. 8.4 includes Apple Music and you can get a free 3 month trial. Mine's playing now. Very cool.
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