Stickman
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I'm just happy that I have no more writtens to take.
I completely agree. But someone who works hard in an attempt to achieve a high score will probably learn more than someone who thinks "anything more than 70% is wasted effort." A person who learns the material well will make a higher score. Someone who believes 70% is adequate probably won't learn as much.A high score on the test doesn’t necessarily mean the applicant really knows anything other than how to take a test. They could very easily not really understand the material.
There was one that was on the test the first time I took it that was about an MSA. The question referred to a chart in the supplement, but the MSA they were asking about was completely illegible - literally smudged out so it couldn't be read. I got it right because it was also in the test prep material, and I had memorized the correct answer. There was absolutely no other way to get that one right (other than by chance).BTW, fixes on a chart was one of my peeves with the test, it would take a while to find them sometimes, but I never ran into a case of the fix not being on the chart. I think there were two or three of those types of question on my test.
Took the "new" test. 92%. Passed oral and practical in Cirrus on first try.
Memorizing answers doesn't work anymore. I had to understand the concepts, because the questions were not like the ones in Gleim and King. That said, I used King and it served me well.
I may be in a minority, but I feel this test is a good indicator of IFR knowledge. Though like every test there are some dumb questions, overall, you do have to know your IFR stuff to do well.
In 2016 the average score was 87% for the IFR written. Ref: FAA website https://www.faa.gov/data_research/aviation_data_statistics/test_statistics/I tried finding it on the web, no luck. Does anyone know what the national average score is on the ifr written?
What did everyone get?
Got a 95% yesterday.
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In 2016 the average score was 87% for there IFR written. Ref: FAA website https://www.faa.gov/data_research/aviation_data_statistics/test_statistics/
A chart of the scores for the written is attached. Note that the scores have been decreasing after the FAA stopped releasing all the questions.
Only for 2017. If you use the pull down box for prior years, you will see the airman statistics. For some reason it takes them longer to compile the Airman stats as compared to the Mechanics stats.Isn’t that just the maintenance technician test scores?
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There was one that was on the test the first time I took it that was about an MSA. The question referred to a chart in the supplement, but the MSA they were asking about was completely illegible - literally smudged out so it couldn't be read. I got it right because it was also in the test prep material, and I had memorized the correct answer. There was absolutely no other way to get that one right (other than by chance).
Agree, I took the IR written twice as well, because my first one expired before I was able to take the checkride. The second time, I looked through the obviously new supplement and found that particular plate had been corrected. Or maybe I got that question a second time, I don't recall too clearly as it's been a while. But anyway, yes, they did reprint the supplement and that particular question should no longer be a problem.For those studying now this really isn’t a problem anymore. They’ve reprinted the supplements in much better resolution than the old ones. They also appreciate if you find a question where the supplement is unreadable for the question asked and they do ask in the test software now for feedback on any questions you think are broken in any way. They also claim that if they agree, and you got a bad question from the pool, they may give credit for the bad question at their discretion. But you do have to report it in the software at the end.
I don't think I had the option to report a broken question.
I must not be looking at the chart right, because to me it seems to be saying the average IFR score for 2016 was 79%, not 87%.In 2016 the average score was 87% for there IFR written. Ref: FAA website https://www.faa.gov/data_research/aviation_data_statistics/test_statistics/
A chart of the scores for the written is attached. Note that the scores have been decreasing after the FAA stopped releasing all the questions.
Any thoughts, suggestions?
Maybe I should check that out and then retest
Am considering giving up because this makes me feel like my mind may be slipping
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At the testing center I used, the proctor asked how I studied. I told her Sheppard Air. She smiled and said, "Good call." When I was done with the test, she handed me the results and said, "Not surprised.." 100%.
Every question was one I had seen before.
Big caveat, here - this gets you past the written. I have been studying my butte off for the checkride for the past month... no probably more. Reading the ASA exam guide, watching the sporty's videos, watching other videos of orals... heck, just doing mock flights in my office - planning a flight, studying weather using aviationweather.gov and all the great products there, windy.com, foreflight's products..., looking at approach charts and chair flying how I would set up for the approach - going through the 5As (atis, alitimeter, avionics, approach briefing, approach checklist), giving myself vectors to final, going through the 5Ts as I get close to the intercept, how to program the 430w and activate the right leg on the proc, how I would set power for approach, do I need to time this approach?, slowing before the FAF and configuring... the missed..
I find I am actually doing checkride prep stuff as I type this...
Anyway, Sheppard to get you past the written. Then deep dive into the material to really know it for checkride and beyond.
You have nothing to gain by retesting. It is a complete and utter waste of time and resources. I would not want to be your student if you have this attitude.That sounds like a plan. Am planning to go through CFII, then teach. This is a retirement venture for me, LOL! Trying to decide about a retest after a 92. Even my dpe says to stop obsessing over it and move on but I'm so numbers oriented that I've even considered giving up my flying. After reviewing the test, I found out that on 2 of the 5 wrong, I had the right answer initially then changed it the 4th time I went over it (I had gone through it in 20 mins). Maddening!
You have nothing to gain by retesting. It is a complete and utter waste of time and resources. I would not want to be your student if you have this attitude.
Even my dpe says to stop obsessing over it and move on but I'm so numbers oriented that I've even considered giving up my flying.
What do you think you’ll gain by taking a test over that you already scored 22 points higher than necessary on?
would you recommend to a student that they retake a test they scored 22 points higher than necessary on?
Guess some of you misunderstood me, so let me clarify. I have historically been extremely hard on myself, since I was eleven years old, almost 40 years. Long story and I won't belabor the details but my parents instilled a lot of self doubt in me at young age, which turned me into the consummate overachiever, at everything. Trained for the Olympic marathon, practiced law twenty years, got physics and math degrees, all to please unpleasable parents.
I would never ever treat a student like I do myself! In fact, my own instructor, who is very dear to me, is so driven that he makes me look like a piker! But he is the most patient and supportive instructor I have ever known! He took me from fear of flying to flying addict over the course of a year. I would emulate him in my teaching methods.
Trying to become a new airplane parent, training for instruments, learning the new plane, and trying to take the knowledge test, all at one time, was a little too much for this 50-year-old, and I kind of snapped. I apologize if I upset anyone, and I do appreciate your insights.
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You upset no one Mary, no need to please anyone here. Some in this group, including me, can be a little cantankerous, just ignore that, welcome to aviation.
I got my instrument rating a few years ago at age 56. I'm told it's the hardest rating to get, and it gave me a workout. But I use it regularly, it makes flying easier when the weather isn't great, if you make good decisions. Just settle down, I was kind of like you, expecting perfection out of myself, getting upset when things weren't perfect and it slowed me down. It actually became easier when stop doing that. The goal is to be safe and proficient, not perfect, it's never perfect between curveballs from ATC and just the trials and tribulations of flying. Relax and enjoy the ride.
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