Hey Spike, what's a tag?

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Always glad to see new rules. What's this about?
 
Wayne if you go to the fourms or hit New Posts in some of the Threads listed you will see a light blue icon ( looks like a tag ) on the right side of the row where the name of the post is listed. If you put your cursor over the tag words will pop up that are supposed to be key or descriptive words. They help folks searching certain topics to find us on the internet/web.

The MC has noticed that some folks are putting tags on threads that are well shall we say not the type of things that folks searching the internet for a community based aviation fourm would be including in their search.
 
Are they being naughty again? Hadn't ever noticed them, now you're telling me it's too late for the hard-core stuff? Story of my life.



AdamZ said:
Wayne if you go to the fourms or hit New Posts in some of the Threads listed you will see a light blue icon ( looks like a tag ) on the right side of the row where the name of the post is listed. If you put your cursor over the tag words will pop up that are supposed to be key or descriptive words. They help folks searching certain topics to find us on the internet/web.

The MC has noticed that some folks are putting tags on threads that are well shall we say not the type of things that folks searching the internet for a community based aviation fourm would be including in their search.
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To be honest, I've never noticed them either. Just more junk icons to ignore. But once mentioned, my reaction was, "Hmmm, ok"
Next ....
 
bbchien said:
Never noticed them. Can you give a "for exmaple"?
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Scroll down the page to the bottom. Just below the {Post Reply} button there is a box labeled "tags". This thread has a couple of tags that someone assigned to it... one says "tags" the other says "this is a tag".

If you click on the label "tags" on the box border, it will take you to a screen that shows all tags that people have put on posts, with the LARGER type indicating that relatively more people have used the particular tag more than the ones in the small type.
 
*Knock Knock Knock*

"I'm so glad you're finally here officer, this is just terrible!"

"So the dispatcher says you want to file a complaint against your neighbor for indecent exposure?"

"I most certainly do, this is just awful and I shouldn't have to put up with it."

"Can you show me the problem?"

"Well I certainly can. Just look out that window right there. Do you see that naked man in his bathroom?"

"Well I can see him, but only from the waist up, nothing more than you'd see if he were mowing his lawn with his shirt off."

"Well you can certainly see a lot more if you pull the kitchen table over here by the window and stand on it while you look out through the very top pane of the window."
 
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wsuffa said:
Scroll down the page to the bottom. Just below the {Post Reply} button there is a box labeled "tags". This thread has a couple of tags that someone assigned to it... one says "tags" the other says "this is a tag".
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Aren't those tags now a violation of the new RoC?? :D:D:D:nono::D:D

Off with their heads!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
Will the software warn us if we accidentally post a tag? Preferably before the penalty phase! Or is there a list of catch phrases to avoid, somewhere? I guess I am a bit confused. How do we know what to avoid? Where can I read more? Hate to stumble into an unmarked reduced speed zone!
 
Was the TSA somehow involved in this caper?

Let'sgoflying! said:
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
Will the software warn us if we accidentally post a tag? Preferably before the penalty phase! Or is there a list of catch phrases to avoid, somewhere? I guess I am a bit confused. How do we know what to avoid? Where can I read more? Hate to stumble into an unmarked reduced speed zone!
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Let'sgoflying! said:
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
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I cannot answer for the MC but I think the answer is no.

Tags are metadata that is used to facilitate searches by describing the thread topic by subject word. Theoretically you can link several metadata tags together in a search and have a better chance of finding what you are looking for than a normal key word search of text. That only really works if the metadata tags are strictly enforced in how they are used. In a situation like here on PoA they help. But since they are user defined sometimes will have failures in assisting you with locating the info.

The tag cloud also gives a visual clue as to what the most used tag is. It will be the word that is bigger and bolder. So one can get a relative ranking of what is popular.

What the MC is asking is that you keep the focus on metadata tagging to things that meet the RoC. For instance the tags in this thread, or the use of my favorite tag, mustard, for discussions about the noblest of condiments. But don't use a tag of 'idiot' in a thread when someone says something you disagree with.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
Will the software warn us if we accidentally post a tag? Preferably before the penalty phase! Or is there a list of catch phrases to avoid, somewhere? I guess I am a bit confused. How do we know what to avoid? Where can I read more? Hate to stumble into an unmarked reduced speed zone!
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A tag is simply a way to describe a thread with a word or group of words. It makes it a little easier to search.

For example a thread about a Cessna 172 might be tagged with "cessna" and "172" or "cessna 172".

Tagging a thread is perfectly fine, in fact, we would like people to tag threads. It improves our search results.

The problem arises when you tag a thread with some words that are not appropriate. Perhaps a personal attack, or some political crap. Basically, if you wouldn't write it in a post, don't write it in a tag :) Some people were using them to label threads in a negative light.

If you're tagging a thread- you'll know you are doing it. You have to scroll down and click "Tags".
 
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Let'sgoflying! said:
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
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In a word, no.

Will the software warn us if we accidentally post a tag?
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It's not possible to "accidentally" post a tag. It has to be pretty deliberate.

Preferably before the penalty phase! Or is there a list of catch phrases to avoid, somewhere?
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No there is not. If you don't know about tags now, you won't have any trouble with them by accident. Truth be told, I didn't know until just now how to even post a tag.
Where can I read more?
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I don't know, myself. Sorry.

Hate to stumble into an unmarked reduced speed zone!
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Don't worry about it. It won't happen by accident.
 
Dunno about the others, pard, but thinking I know anything about what I'm doing on this computer most of the time is a gross miscalculation.

jesse said:
A tag is simply a way to describe a thread with a word or group of words. It makes it a little easier to search.

For example a thread about a Cessna 172 might be tagged with "cessna" and "172" or "cessna 172".

Tagging a thread is perfectly fine, in fact, we would like people to tag threads. It improves our search results.

The problem arises when you tag a thread with some words that are not appropriate. Perhaps a personal attack, or some political crap. Basically, if you wouldn't write it in a post, don't write it in a tag :) Some people were using them to label threads in a negative light.

If you're tagging a thread- you'll know you are doing it. You have to scroll down and click "Tags".
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I think the criteria espoused by Mr. Justice Stevens in Jacobellis v. Ohio will apply. If someone tags a thread "left wing jerk idiot bullhockey" in Hangar Talk, we'll know it when we see it, and take appropriate action against the tagger. If you're smart enough to fly an airplane, you're probably smart enough to be able to predict accurately whether we'll find your tag unacceptable, and if you post an unacceptable tag anyway, you shouldn't be surprised when we remove the tag and take disciplinary action against you.

And whoever's posting those "tag-a-licious" and other stupid tags on this thread can stop now.
 
Ok I feel pretty safe then. Metadata? Heck I don't even have alpha or beta data!
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
So a tag is a word or group of words, which is/are forbidden, yes?
Will the software warn us if we accidentally post a tag? Preferably before the penalty phase! Or is there a list of catch phrases to avoid, somewhere? I guess I am a bit confused. How do we know what to avoid? Where can I read more? Hate to stumble into an unmarked reduced speed zone!
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The tag isnt a problem, folks.. its the content.

Tags are not forbidden by the rules. Derogatory or insultive ones are.
If you dont know how to tag, and dont want to learn, this rule means nothing to you.

Tags are meant to help articles come up on searches.

This thread could be tagged "rules" and then if you wanted to search for threads with discussions on rules (and get hits on threads without "rules" in the title) the tag of "rules" could help in that endeavor.

But lets say someone who wants to be clever, thinking they know more than everyone else, decides to tag someone elses thread with an obscenity, insult or whatever... its almost like an inside joke, and the non-savvy folks are blissfully ignorant that they've been insulted..

Something tells me that the folks who PUT these derogatory tags on posts got a nice little private message above and beyond the amnesty warning in the rulemaking post.
 
Will mods assigned to police these infractions now wear trunks, work in groups of two and be known as . . .

ba-ba-boom
 
Out the perp and let the community enforce its own rules.

Ron Levy said:
I think the criteria espoused by Mr. Justice Stevens in Jacobellis v. Ohio will apply. If someone tags a thread "left wing jerk idiot bullhockey" in Hangar Talk, we'll know it when we see it, and take appropriate action against the tagger. If you're smart enough to fly an airplane, you're probably smart enough to be able to predict accurately whether we'll find your tag unacceptable, and if you post an unacceptable tag anyway, you shouldn't be surprised when we remove the tag and take disciplinary action against you.

And whoever's posting those "tag-a-licious" and other stupid tags on this thread can stop now.
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I'm glad the question was asked. I was confused too.

People are idiots. This negative tagging is just further proof.
 
Tags aren't that obvious right now as to how they are used. Tags are way more obvious as to how they are used in vBulletin 4 which is the next major release of the forum package we're using. I'm currently testing a migration.

Some exciting things that may be coming:
1.) PoA home page will have actual content. It will have articles. We can promote a post to an article. Some of the well written stories that are burried deep within threads would make great articles
2.) we may provide blogs. blog entries can be promoted to an article as well.

..It's pretty early right now - no idea when we'll upgrade or what features we'll provide. But it is in the works.
 
timwinters said:
That's pretty funny, actually. :smile::yesnod:
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Yeah, and since I posted tag-a-licious (which to my way of thinking WAS humorous, was NOT offensive, obscene, or breaking any other rules of conduct), I'm annoyed that it was removed WITHOUT any PM from any MC member.

If I get out of line, I expect to be counseled on it, not just muzzled. And I don't understand how tag-a-licious was in violation of the RoC.
 
Think of it as an honor. You were the first to be tag-teamed.

TMetzinger said:
Yeah, and since I posted tag-a-licious (which to my way of thinking WAS humorous, was NOT offensive, obscene, or breaking any other rules of conduct), I'm annoyed that it was removed WITHOUT any PM from any MC member.

If I get out of line, I expect to be counseled on it, not just muzzled. And I don't understand how tag-a-licious was in violation of the RoC.
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wabower said:
Think of it as an honor. You were the first to be tag-teamed.
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I didn't see "stupid" mentioned in the original list of banned things. But apparently the standard is somewhat flexible. "I know it when I see it" may apply to pornography, but doesn't apply to everything - that's just another way of saying "the rules are whatever I think they are at the time".
 
TMetzinger said:
Yeah, and since I posted tag-a-licious (which to my way of thinking WAS humorous, was NOT offensive, obscene, or breaking any other rules of conduct), I'm annoyed that it was removed WITHOUT any PM from any MC member.

If I get out of line, I expect to be counseled on it, not just muzzled. And I don't understand how tag-a-licious was in violation of the RoC.
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The person who did it has a long history of altering posts without telling anyone, this in violation of the RoC.
 
(Sigh)

Just roll with us, guys.
 
What's the saying? "When you outlaw tags, only outlaws will have tags"

Or something like that.

I agree that this should be cracked down on, but humorous, non-insulting tags like "tag-a-licious" do no harm to the community. Let's have some common sense here.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
can someone post a screenshot of the tag button?
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Hey - this thread certainly is "tag-a-delic!"

Unfortunately, I don't tag stuff. I think I'm too old to understand the concept....or when VB4 comes out, I'll forcibly get it.
 
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