Getting rid of fat

azblackbird said:
I would assume the guy that wrote most of the scientific papers on intermittent fasting is more than likely a muslim himself and is very well aware of Ramadan. :dunno:

Speaking for myself... I eat all my meals/snacks from 11:00 am to 7:00 pm. Basically all I'm doing is skipping breakfast which the majority of Americans do anyways. My success is that I cut out 95% of all sweets/sugars and eat only lean meats, veggies, eggs, a little dairy (milk/cheese) along with fruits and nuts. Plus I stay constantly hydrated by drinking over a gallon of ice cold water/tea per day. I don't ever feel hungry. If I get a sweet tooth, I'll have a few wafers of 85% cacao dark bakers chocolate which is more bitter than it is sweet, but it takes the sugar urge away.

I do HIT weight training and HIIT cardio twice a week. I use pinch calipers to measure my fat loss and each day can literally see the fat melting away and the muscle mass increasing.
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Yup, this will definitely do it, regardless of religious orientation.

But I don't like pain or denial.
 
Bill Jennings said:
Dinner Friday night at a Latin American restaurant, lord knows how many calories this one was:

Flat steak, chorizo, empanada, black beans, rice, fried egg, fried plantains, avacado, fries. And some excellent sangria.
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One of the strategies of the Steinholme is when we go out to eat, we take home half the meal. The denizens of the Steinholme are diminutive in stature, and the serving are usually too large. If I wind up eating a whole serving (for example, I had an entire black bean burger for lunch on the Island Saturday) I usually skip another meal, almost always because I'm just not hungry. Dinner Saturday night was just not eaten, nor did I have any breakfast the next day. Wasn't trying to diet, just wasn't all that hungry. A benefit to assiduous portion control is you don't get all that hungry.
 
steingar said:
One of the strategies of the Steinholme is when we go out to eat, we take home half the meal. The denizens of the Steinholme are diminutive in stature, and the serving are usually too large. If I wind up eating a whole serving (for example, I had an entire black bean burger for lunch on the Island Saturday) I usually skip another meal, almost always because I'm just not hungry. Dinner Saturday night was just not eaten, nor did I have any breakfast the next day. Wasn't trying to diet, just wasn't all that hungry. A benefit to assiduous portion control is you don't get all that hungry.
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I might lose my appetite if I had a whole black bean burger too. I may have to try that.
 
steingar said:
One of the strategies of the Steinholme is when we go out to eat, we take home half the meal.
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We discussed that next time, we will split the dinner, it was certainly enough for two. I had skipped lunch and had been in the gym an hour before, so was quite hungry. Even so, I probably didn't need to eat that much food in one sitting.
 
bflynn said:
Yup, this will definitely do it, regardless of religious orientation. But I don't like pain or denial.
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Pain or denial? You lost me on that one. Basically all I'm doing is replacing old bad habits with new good habits. Takes a little while to develop a groove and ingrain those new habits into my daily regimen, but progression has been stellar so far. I'm not missing my old ways one bit. ;)
 
azblackbird said:
Pain or denial? You lost me on that one. Basically all I'm doing is replacing old bad habits with new good habits. Takes a little while to develop a groove and ingrain those new habits into my daily regimen, but progression has been stellar so far. I'm not missing my old ways one bit. ;)
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You were talking about exercise and cardio and stuff. That hurts.

You were also talking about not eating yummy things. That's denial.

Clear now?
 
bflynn said:
You were talking about exercise and cardio and stuff. That hurts.

You were also talking about not eating yummy things. That's denial.

Clear now?
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Ahhhh... now I get what you're saying.

HIT and HIIT if done properly is supposed to hurt. That's the whole point! The pain is only temporary and actually feels pretty good once you get used to it.

I still eat yummy things. I just don't gorge myself on them. I'll have a small scoop of ice cream, piece of pie, or a cinnamon roll every once in a while. I just don't make it an everyday habit like I used to. ;)
 
azblackbird said:
Ahhhh... now I get what you're saying.

HIT and HIIT if done properly is supposed to hurt. That's the whole point! The pain is only temporary and actually feels pretty good once you get used to it.
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I've been doing 5x5's lately. Five reps at 60% working weight, then five reps at 80% working weight, then three sets of five reps at working weight. Complete all 25 reps? Move up 10# next time.
 
I desperately wanted wanted a few thick slices of bacon this morning. had to eat a couple of James Dean's offerings with some American
cheese and some shaved ham to get a good breakfast,

My other favorite is poached eggs atop toast sandwiched with the eggs and a slice of American Cheese.

Seasonings are also welcome.
 
Bill Jennings said:
Dinner Friday night at a Latin American restaurant, lord knows how many calories this one was:

Flat steak, chorizo, empanada, black beans, rice, fried egg, fried plantains, avacado, fries. And some excellent sangria.
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YOLO
 
Bill Jennings said:
I've been doing 5x5's lately. Five reps at 60% working weight, then five reps at 80% working weight, then three sets of five reps at working weight. Complete all 25 reps? Move up 10# next time.
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I spend a little over 30 minutes (weights only) doing a total body workout of 10 exercises. I do one set of 8-12 reps at approx. 3-2-5 cadence or slower of 80% of 1 RM to total failure on each exercise. I use a 10-20 sec. rest pause method and will do another set of 1-3 reps to failure once again just to make sure I'm totally drained. I try to keep my TUL for each exercise in a 60-90 second window.

I cut the HIIT cardio out beginning this week. That along with the HIT weight training was killing me (feeling overly fatigued) even when only training twice a week. After reading a few research papers, I discovered I was getting more than adequate cardio just by doing the HIT weight training by itself. I'll be going back to 3 times a week only doing the weight training. That seems to be the sweet spot for what my body likes and can tolerate. In fact, I just got back from the gym and feel awesome! No fatigue whatsoever. I was way overtraining doing both HIT weights and HIIT cardio. Lesson learned! ;)
 
bflynn said:
You were talking about exercise and cardio and stuff. That hurts.

You were also talking about not eating yummy things. That's denial.

Clear now?
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First, intelligently undertaken exercise doesn’t have to be painful. And I eat lots of yummy things. It’s easy to make things taste good by making them unhealthy. Far trickier to make them taste good while not overly caloric.
 
azblackbird said:
Ahhhh... now I get what you're saying.

HIT and HIIT if done properly is supposed to hurt. That's the whole point! The pain is only temporary and actually feels pretty good once you get used to it.

I still eat yummy things. I just don't gorge myself on them. I'll have a small scoop of ice cream, piece of pie, or a cinnamon roll every once in a while. I just don't make it an everyday habit like I used to. ;)
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Pain is weakness leaving the body and like you I don't see how people slave away on a treadmill for hours when I can get the same results in 20 minutes of HIIT. As for ice cream, have you tried halo top? DANG freaking good and a whole pint is usually around 360 calories...for a WHOLE pint!
 
Sac Arrow said:
Yeah it's tough. I like curries, and samosas, but the overall package is not good for me.
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Yeah, I don’t mind the taste of curry, it’s just something in the food that never sets well with me. The only cuisine that I refuse to eat.
 
simtech said:
Pain is weakness leaving the body and like you I don't see how people slave away on a treadmill for hours when I can get the same results in 20 minutes of HIIT. As for ice cream, have you tried halo top? DANG freaking good and a whole pint is usually around 360 calories...for a WHOLE pint!
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I've been eating Breyers Natural Vanilla for years. That's the only ice cream I've found that's as close to what I can make homemade. What's funny, even their homemade vanilla version sucks, and doesn't taste anything close to their natural vanilla or the vanilla ice cream that I make. Haven't tried Halo Top.

If you're into HIT or HIIT, you're probably familiar with the writings of Ellington Darden, Doug McGuff, Drew Baye, or Arthur Jones. I pretty much follow their diet and exercise protocols. It just all makes a lot of sense to me. No need to spend hours and hours in a gym, nor starve yourself to death on the latest fad diets to get great results. ;)
 
Somehow, "where's the sauce" doesn't sound as sexy as "where's the beef" ;)
 
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jkaduk said:
Bike shorts work well for Yoga.
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Don't confuse bike shorts with yoga tights. A man displaying an impeccable circumcision through a set of shorts bearing the logo of Peal Izumi whilst wearing a bike jersey gets a pass.
 
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