Getting rid of fat

FastEddieB said:
We were taught that 2 lbs a week was a healthy rate of weight loss, but that was some time ago.
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It still is, same for adding weight too.

What happens is people take drastic measures, cut food intake, and add crazy amounts of cardio. Problem is that is hard to maintain so while they lose weight (muscle,fat,water) they slow their metabolism down. Once they get to the weight they want they go back to eating like they were before and now with a wrecked metabolism and gain all the weight back plus more. Slow and steady wins and its easier to manage food intake if you look at it for the long haul. To do all that cardio you have to have fuel, I know it sounds crazy but sometimes to lose weight you have to eat more.
 
Zeldman said:
I saw this picture and almost had the second heart attack....
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That was the year someone donated 100lb of beef ribs for the Fri night party. We really had to bust to get those things ready. Those two slabs of pork ribs and that turkey are swamped by the beef ribs. I can't see what's on the racks in the back.
 
We cook almost that much a few times throughout summer. My son & son-in-law both like to grill, and they're good cooks.
 
I've dropped 30 lbs since August cutting carbs and keeping my calorie count down. I do not get a lot of exercise.
 
It's all the half-dounts one eats in the kitchen at work.
 
The problem with diets is they end eventually. When they do the dieters go back to whatever made them gain weight. The key to loosing weight and keeping it off is to eat small portions and healthy foods all the time. You decrease portions until you are loosing weight, and once you've lost what you feel is appropriate you increase to steady state. You really can eat whatever you want, but in moderation.
 
VanDy said:
Look into intermittent fasting
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Looked into it until the point that it recommended fasting for 16 hours every day... Whoever researched that has never lived in the Middle East during Ramadan. Weight gain during Ramadan is more common than not.
 
steingar said:
The problem with diets is they end eventually. When they do the dieters go back to whatever made them gain weight. The key to loosing weight and keeping it off is to eat small portions and healthy foods all the time. You decrease portions until you are loosing weight, and once you've lost what you feel is appropriate you increase to steady state. You really can eat whatever you want, but in moderation.
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the key is to not diet but to change your lifestyle.
 
deonb said:
Looked into it until the point that it recommended fasting for 16 hours every day... Whoever researched that has never lived in the Middle East during Ramadan. Weight gain during Ramadan is more common than not.
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I would assume the guy that wrote most of the scientific papers on intermittent fasting is more than likely a muslim himself and is very well aware of Ramadan. :dunno:

Speaking for myself... I eat all my meals/snacks from 11:00 am to 7:00 pm. Basically all I'm doing is skipping breakfast which the majority of Americans do anyways. My success is that I cut out 95% of all sweets/sugars and eat only lean meats, veggies, eggs, a little dairy (milk/cheese) along with fruits and nuts. Plus I stay constantly hydrated by drinking over a gallon of ice cold water/tea per day. I don't ever feel hungry. If I get a sweet tooth, I'll have a few wafers of 85% cacao dark bakers chocolate which is more bitter than it is sweet, but it takes the sugar urge away.

I do HIT weight training and HIIT cardio twice a week. I use pinch calipers to measure my fat loss and each day can literally see the fat melting away and the muscle mass increasing.
 
Sac Arrow said:
With an Indian name, I highly doubt it.
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Regardless of his religious affiliation, I'm sure the gentleman has researched diets and fasting methods of the various religions and cultures from around the world. A lot of what he's written makes perfect sense to me, so I decided to give it a try. Obviously it's working, at least in my case anyways. Same goes for all the research and papers written on HIT and HIIT training. You can do 20 minutes twice a week and achieve the same results as those people who run for miles and miles, or who pump weights everyday for hours on end. It's all about the intensity and allowing your body to properly rest and rebuild. ;)
 
azblackbird said:
Even the Hindus fast. Seems they're more adamant about it than even the Muslims. Who'd of thunk? :dunno:
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Which Hindu? There are many different variations of "Hindu". Some fast, some don't, some are vegetarians, some are vegetarians on certain days. Even Thuggee was considered Hindu as they worshiped Ma Kali. This group is the root of the term "thug".
 
deonb said:
Looked into it until the point that it recommended fasting for 16 hours every day... Whoever researched that has never lived in the Middle East during Ramadan. Weight gain during Ramadan is more common than not.
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If I'm not mistaken, during ramadan, they only eat at night. That's different than eating 8 hours a day. Once you exceed a window of fasting your body will go into starvation mode. 16 hours keeps you out of that and works with your livers circadian click much better.
 
VanDy said:
If I'm not mistaken, during ramadan, they only eat at night. That's different than eating 8 hours a day. Once you exceed a window of fasting your body will go into starvation mode. 16 hours keeps you out of that and works with your livers circadian click much better.
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And that starvation mode has the opposite effect on weight loss. If you don't supply your body with enough food on a regular basis, the metabolism will decline and your body will find the lack of energy from other sources, such as the glucose in your muscles, which leads to lower fat burning and increased weight gain. Cut the calories, but don't cut them to the point where you feel starved throughout the day. Eating a clean diet does wonders for your overall health.
 
Ryanb said:
And that starvation mode has the opposite effect on weight loss. If you don't supply your body with enough food on a regular basis, the metabolism will decline and your body will find the lack of energy from other sources, such as the glucose in your muscles, which leads to lower fat burning and increased weight gain. Cut the calories, but don't cut them to the point where you feel starved throughout the day. Eating a clean diet does wonders for your overall health.
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Agreed, if I don't close to 2k calories during my feeding time, I really feel it the next day. Otherwise I feel really good!
 
VanDy said:
If I'm not mistaken, during ramadan, they only eat at night. That's different than eating 8 hours a day. Once you exceed a window of fasting your body will go into starvation mode. 16 hours keeps you out of that and works with your livers circadian click much better.
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Not just at night. It's during dark hours - so eating from after dusk to before dawn. If this falls during in summer it's about 8 hours.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
With that name, I also highly doubt he is Muslim. His name suggests a South Indian origin. Last name suggests Hindi or Parsi for religion.


Given the number of Muslims in India, I also suspect he is well aware of Ramadan.
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Agreed, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
 
The problem with fasting is you wind up eating that much more when the fasting ends, and you gain weight instead of loosing it. Again, portion control and regular exercise will work in every instance. Calories in = calories out for steady state, calories in < calories out for weight loss. Isn't rocket science, nor is it magic. Mostly just common sense, which seems like the most uncommon commodity of all.
 
steingar said:
The problem with fasting is you wind up eating that much more when the fasting ends, and you gain weight instead of loosing it. Again, portion control and regular exercise will work in every instance. Calories in = calories out for steady state, calories in < calories out for weight loss. Isn't rocket science, nor is it magic. Mostly just common sense, which seems like the most uncommon commodity of all.
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
see:
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/loosing.106897/
 
deonb said:
Not just at night. It's during dark hours - so eating from after dusk to before dawn. If this falls during in summer it's about 8 hours.
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And im assuming there is some sleeping going on between dusk and dawn, (night time)

steingar said:
The problem with fasting is you wind up eating that much more when the fasting ends, and you gain weight instead of loosing it. Again, portion control and regular exercise will work in every instance. Calories in = calories out for steady state, calories in < calories out for weight loss. Isn't rocket science, nor is it magic. Mostly just common sense, which seems like the most uncommon commodity of all.
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I find it incrediblly difficult to get my 2k calories in during an 8 hour period,regardless of what i eat.
 
VanDy said:
And im assuming there is some sleeping going on between dusk and dawn, (night time)



I find it incrediblly difficult to get my 2k calories in during an 8 hour period,regardless of what i eat.
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I'm jealous. I find it difficult to not get my 2k calories in during a single meal. It's a good thing my wife watches what I eat.
 
JOhnH said:
I'm jealous. I find it difficult to not get my 2k calories in during a single meal. It's a good thing my wife watches what I eat.
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Dinner Friday night at a Latin American restaurant, lord knows how many calories this one was:

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Flat steak, chorizo, empanada, black beans, rice, fried egg, fried plantains, avacado, fries. And some excellent sangria.
 
Between the empanada, fries, plantain, fries, rice and beans (and sangria), that's an awful lot of carbs.
 
VanDy said:
And im assuming there is some sleeping going on between dusk and dawn, (night time)
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Most people I've worked with in Saudi just swapped day and night around during Ramadan. Stay awake until dawn, then go to bed. Or at most they would take a 2 hour nap at night and skip the afternoon nap.

Stores that generally would close at 9pm, would stay open all night and close during the day etc.

Throughout the Middle East, there is significantly more nighttime activity during Ramadan.
 
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