EPA targets lead in avgas

[Dave Anderson]

Elections have consequences.

Let's hope people vote smart next time around. Otherwise, we might get used to "healthy" $8 fuel for our aircraft.

 

[Half Fast]

I bought 100LL yesterday for $2.99/gal. It was a special pancake breakfast deal but it sure felt good. The cheapest I had ever seen prior to that was $3.29.

I'm sure they made up the difference somewhere else. $10 per pancake?

 

[francisco collazos]

I suspect there will be some sort of subsidy to fuel producers to encourage and help them get UL into production, much the same way the feds subsidize electric cars and solar panels. Probably not until next year.

But I won’t be surprised if the EPA starts making lots of noise and threats, followed by GAMI and the FAA saying there’s a solution but it will take many years to get it into production and reach an acceptable price, whereupon the fuel companies will begin asking for assistance, reminding everyone that “it’s for the children.”

If farmers can have their corn subsidies then why can't us pilots?...am I right??

 

[flyingron]

I have them on 8-track and a working machine...

I have a Parallel Lines picture disk in my collection somewhere.

 

[flyingron]

I remember when ADS-B was going to be the end of GA...

And before that having to put Mode C in our planes.

 

[bnt83]

I flew 3 hours this weekend, not a drop of 100LL was used.

 

[EdFred]

I flew 3 hours this weekend, not a drop of 100LL was used.

I flew almost 7 and it was all 100LL. Comanche not approved for Mogas even though the 540 is.

 

[Domenick]

Given that the FAA has already approved a new fuel for fleet wide use, and the EPA has yet to outlaw the evil child and planet killing fuel, it doesn't seem to be much of a race.

The race is NOT between FAA approval and a ban from the zealots at EPA. It's between market availability and the EPA zealots' ban.

 

[PPC1052]

The race is NOT between FAA approval and a ban from the zealots at EPA. It's between market availability and the EPA zealots' ban.

I'm sure there is no way a government official would try to ban a technology in support of some other new technology replacement before the replacement is commercially available in sufficient quantities to replace the old. I mean, just look at electric vehicles.

Oh, wait. Never mind.

 

[Pinecone]

Almost?

A long ways for cheap gas. May do it just to be able to say I bought for that cheap.

 

[Pinecone]

And before that having to put Mode C in our planes.

And transponders themselves before that.

 

[Bob Noel]

interesting straw man claims being made...

 

[E.W.]

You can be sure that whatever fuel costs the most to make and buy, that's what the FAA will force everyone to use.

 

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

You can be sure that whatever fuel costs the most to make and buy, that's what the FAA will force everyone to use.

Too late for that. G100UL is already approved.

 

[Kenny Phillips]

But even all of those are covered by the new GAMI fuel, right?

Yep. All you need to do is find it at your local 'drome.

 

[Sundancer]

Elections have consequences.

And I have high hope for the upcoming ones.

 

[455 Bravo Uniform]

The sense of smell is a powerful generator of feeling and emotion, like a perfume of an old girlfriend, the smell of a charcoal grill, etc.

Y’all are gonna miss the smell of burnt 100LL in the future. It’ll take you back to your younger days.

I might keep some around to burn in my lawnmower when I feel nostalgic 20 years from now (if I’m still around). It reminds me of drag cars.

 

[Jeff Oslick]

The sense of smell is a powerful generator of feeling and emotion, like a perfume of an old girlfriend, the smell of a charcoal grill, etc.

I almost exclusively run renewable diesel in my truck, and I don't at all miss the smell of fossil fuel diesel or the smell it makes from the exhaust.

 

[Bob Noel]

What does the new unleaded gas smell like?

 

[TCABM]

I almost exclusively run renewable diesel in my truck, and I don't at all miss the smell of fossil fuel diesel or the smell it makes from the exhaust.

You really smell your exhaust?

 

[RyanB]

You really smell your exhaust?

Pretty difficult not to when you’re driving a diesel. The smell of diesel exhaust about makes me gag.

 

[TCABM]

Pretty difficult not to when you’re driving a diesel. The smell of diesel exhaust about makes me gag.

I’ve owned diesels off and in since ‘98 and have been around them all my life. I don’t go around smelling exhaust though.

I certainly don’t smell exhaust in the cab/passenger area.

 

[Jeff Oslick]

You really smell your exhaust?

It isn't just the exhaust. Diesel from the pump has a not-great smell, renewable diesel is pretty much like smelling vegetable oil.

 

[Half Fast]

What does the new unleaded gas smell like?

Pumpkin spice latte.

 

[Baked Potato]

Pumpkin spice latte.

Yes, it's part of the FAA's effort to get more young people interested in aviation.

 

[455 Bravo Uniform]

I almost exclusively run renewable diesel in my truck, and I don't at all miss the smell of fossil fuel diesel or the smell it makes from the exhaust.

The smell of burnt jet-fuel is “cool”.

The smell of diesel exhaust reminds me of camping out next to my running fire truck at overnight emergency response scenes. Good memories of my younger days.

 

[Jeff Oslick]

Pumpkin spice latte.

That's only for the winter blend.

 

[Omalley1537]

You really smell your exhaust?

If it’s Maxima 927 and VP C12, yes please.

 

[Omalley1537]

Yes, it's part of the FAA's effort to get more young people interested in aviation.

And suburban soccer moms…

 

[Pinecone]

You can be sure that whatever fuel costs the most to make and buy, that's what the FAA will force everyone to use.

How is FAA forcing you to use a particular fuel???

 

[Daleandee]

Pumpkin spice latte.

Yes, it's part of the FAA's effort to get more young people interested in aviation.

I gotta throw the flag on this one fellas ... if the FAA had anything to do with the smell of the new fuel it would likely have the odor of athlete's feet!

 

[kaiser]

You really smell your exhaust?

Now I’m beginning to understand some of the members here…

 

[Domenick]

...The smell of diesel exhaust reminds me of camping out next to my running fire truck at overnight emergency response scenes. Good memories of my younger days.

It reminds me of the school bus.
Not so fond memories.

 

[GeorgeC]

What does the new unleaded gas smell like?

...suburban soccer moms…

A nontraditional choice, but there's probably a market for it.

 

[red4golf]

The smell of burnt jet-fuel is “cool”.

The smell of diesel exhaust reminds me of camping out next to my running fire truck at overnight emergency response scenes. Good memories of my younger days.

We ran both JP-8 and DF-2 in our M1 Tanks. Between that and the other trucks that were always around, diesel exhaust became a natural part of the environment. By the time we were done with range time we would smell like cordite, diesel, and sweat.... drove my wife crazy in the best way possible!

 

[schmookeeg]

A nontraditional choice, but there's probably a market for it.

(...resists searching for 'moms id like to smell' for fear of both results and future adwords hits)

 

[EdFred]

(...resists searching for 'moms id like to smell' for fear of both results and future adwords hits)

Incognito / private mode.

 

[hindsight2020]

(...resists searching for 'moms id like to smell' for fear of both results and future adwords hits)

Incognito / private mode.

fellow men of culture I see. Salud!

 

[Palmpilot]

Elections have consequences.

That may not be true much longer.

 

[Omalley1537]

(...resists searching for 'moms id like to smell' for fear of both results and future adwords hits)

lol…my comment was in response to the pumpkin spice one, but the misunderstanding has turned out to be humorous