E-2 cable snap

Those props be grabbin' air! That'll pucker you up.
 
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I had the sound off and I still heard something that sounded like a door slamming shut when he rolled off the deck. :eek:;)

Nauga,
and his minimum endspeed
 
damn.
he's bingo shorts for sure.
wonder if they washed the bottom of the fuse? Hey chief, we took care of the booth, you guys wash the rest.
 
Im gonna need a new chair after watching that plane disappear. If it wasn't for ground.. err water effect...

I saw a famous video of a deck worker playing jump rope with a cable but if it was anything like that no wonder people got hurt...
 
I'd like to hear what @gkainz thinks of this when he's able to control his shuddering well enough to post. :eek:

Nauga,
and the reason for corrosion control
 
nauga said:
I'd like to hear what @gkainz thinks of this when he's able to control his shuddering well enough to post. :eek:

Nauga,
and the reason for corrosion control
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You look up from your console and say "that didn't sound right." :D
 
nauga said:
I'd like to hear what @gkainz thinks of this when he's able to control his shuddering well enough to post. :eek:

Nauga,
and the reason for corrosion control
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I'd like to know what kind of award/recognition the pilot got for saving that aircraft/crew.

The E-2 guys are at idle when they land (they don't automatically power up like the jets do). He must have realized what happened and fire-walled it just in time.
 
I've seen the E2A deck launch many times off CVA 43 (Coral Sea) and that is not a -A that has twice the horse power than the - A
 
Fearless Tower said:
I'd like to know what kind of award/recognition the pilot got for saving that aircraft/crew.

The E-2 guys are at idle when they land (they don't automatically power up like the jets do). He must have realized what happened and fire-walled it just in time.
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Do you really believe the jets are full power on the glideslope?

Just remember that the Allison AE2100 runs at 100% all the time. the prop controls the power needed (Fuel Flow)
 
Tom-D said:
Just remember that the Allison AE2100 runs at 100% all the time. the prop controls the power needed (Fuel Flow)
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Which might be handy to know if you're in a C-130J but the video is an E-2C :cool:

Are you by chance related to John Tarver?

Nauga,
back in the day
 
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Had a cat once that would race across the floor at full speed, use the couch as a springboard to the kitchen island, then slide off the end with a surprised look on his face.

Wanted to name him "Bolter" but the wife nixxed it.....

Ron Wanttaja
 
nauga said:
I doubt he does but they do go to MIL/MAX in the wires
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Are you sure about that? I don't claim to be an E-2 guy, but I had this exact discussion with my buddy when we were in the sim at Chambers. I thought they powered up on touchdown, but he told me only the jet guys did that.
 
Tom-D said:
Do you really believe the jets are full power on the glideslope?
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Legacy Hornets pre-EPE would be at Mil power in the summer. Sometimes that wouldn't even be enough.
 
Now that I look at it, did the cable break or did the hook release at the last minute?
 
Velocity173 said:
Now that I look at it, did the cable break or did the hook release at the last minute?
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It's hard to tell from the video. The two things that can happen is the cable can break, which last happened around 2003, or the hook point can separate which also happened around 2003. It may have occurred since, but those are the last I know of.

The run out seemed longer than normal, and he appeared to be coming in fast for an E-2. But, that's pretty tough to tell from a camera. It's strange that the failure would occur with an E-2, they put much less strain on the gear than a Hornet. Which would make the hook point separation more likely.
 
Cooter143 said:
Legacy Hornets pre-EPE would be at Mil power in the summer. Sometimes that wouldn't even be enough.
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I believe it. Back when I was CRUDES (2000-2003) doing the plane guard thing, I was amazed at how bloody loud the Hornets were. At least twice as loud as the Tomcats.
 
Fearless Tower said:
I believe it. Back when I was CRUDES (2000-2003) doing the plane guard thing, I was amazed at how bloody loud the Hornets were. At least twice as loud as the Tomcats.
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I used to live under the pattern, the Tomcats seemed quiet in comparison.

Which Carrier Air Group were you following?
 
Cooter143 said:
I used to live under the pattern, the Tomcats seemed quiet in comparison.

Which Carrier Air Group were you following?
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Don't recall the Air Group. First deployment (2000) was with the GWBATGRU. Second was in '03 (Iraqi Freedom) with HST. I think they had changed the name to Strike Group by then. All my deployments since then have been in the amphib world.
 
All my time was in B and early C models and I can guarantee we went full throttle on touchdown. Maybe something in the engine and prop upgrades after I left changed NATOPS?
Whatever happened they were longer than normal runout and man they had to be really slow when they went off the end ...
One got so conditioned to how long the runout was that the first shore landing after a long deployment always made my heart jump when we didn't decelerate like a trap.
My view at landing truly sucked - had an up close and personal view of the stbd main landing gear and engine nacelle and a flash of deck as we cleared the round down. Ditching route was up and over two other sets of flailing elbows aft. However, sea story folk lore in my day was the plane would break in half on impact and my evac route was "unstrap and swim straight up" (based on 1 prior incident with a -B dribbling off the end of the deck).
Both the B and C were capable of deck launch, demo'ed by Pax River test crew, but never heard of it happening in the fleet.
 
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All my time was in B and early C models and I can guarantee we went full throttle on touchdown. Maybe something in the engine and prop upgrades after I left changed NATOPS?
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I suppose it's possible. I'm pretty sure that all C's and even the C-2s have been upgraded and have the 8 blade scimitar props now. Not sure if that makes a difference.
 
nauga said:
Which might be handy to know if you're in a C-130J but the video is an E-2C :cool:

Are you by chance related to John Tarver?
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That has to sting just a bit.
 
Well there's the problem.

Are the E-2C's supposed to trap on #4? I thought #3 was the target wire.
 
Cooter143 said:
Legacy Hornets pre-EPE would be at Mil power in the summer. Sometimes that wouldn't even be enough.
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Especially with a combat load (assuming you didn't drop it in country)……..make one bad power off correction in close/at the ramp and see the ball start dropping, full blower it is. Even then you are probably still tagging the ace.
 
I got a kick out of how quick the C on the video changed to the flashing F for a foul deck. Someone was ready to hit that button.
 
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I got a kick out of how quick the C on the video changed to the flashing F for a foul deck. Someone was ready to hit that button.
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Actually, the button had to be held down for a clear deck. If the LSO lets go of the button, the deck lights instantly go to "Foul"...
 
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Actually, the button had to be held down for a clear deck. If the LSO lets go of the button, the deck lights instantly go to "Foul"...
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Ships company controls the deck status, LSOs control the airplanes until they touchdown. I don't remember the names of all the positions, but the LSO platform will have someone watching for the green light(usually the most junior LSO "calling the deck"). Several positions on the flight deck have deck crew hand signal when their area is clear. The deck should go Foul whenever a landing aircraft touches down. And, there's usually one or two deck crew waiting at the line to scurry across, and they'll do that after someone lands.
 
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Tflhndn said:
Actually, the button had to be held down for a clear deck. If the LSO lets go of the button, the deck lights instantly go to "Foul"...
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Cooter143 said:
Ships company controls the deck status, LSOs control the airplanes until they touchdown. I don't remember the names of all the positions, but the LSO platform will have someone watching for the green light(usually the most junior LSO "calling the deck"). Several positions on the flight deck have deck crew hand signal when their area is clear. The deck should go Foul whenever a landing aircraft touches down. And, there's usually one or two deck crew waiting at the line to scurry across, and they'll do that after someone lands.
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Got it. Cool.
 
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