Does my Piper Arrow config qualify as TAA??

[maduro]

My piper arrow is config'd with the following. Does it qualify as a Technically Advanced Aircraft (TAA)?

2 Garmin G5s
GNS530W & GNS430W
JPI830 engine monitor
GFC 500 2 axis autopilot

 

[BillTIZ]

Technically Advanced Airplanes

The G5s may qualify for the PFD requirement. I'm not sure the 530W would qualify for the MFD requirement. GoogleFOO AI says it does.

 

[ateamer]

Since it has retractable gear, a controllable prop and flaps, it’s a complex airplane. Making it TAA won’t add any advantage for meeting commercial pilot requirements

 

[RyanB]

Since it has retractable gear, a controllable prop and flaps, it’s a complex airplane. Making it TAA won’t add any advantage for meeting commercial pilot requirements

This. But yes, it would be TAA.

 

[hindsight2020]

to say nothing it will still be a $ detraction over fixed gear TAA. The point of TAA was to mercy kill the piston retract trainer, and it succeeded.

 

[BillTIZ]

to say nothing it will still be a $ detraction over fixed gear TAA. The point of TAA was to mercy kill the piston retract trainer, and it succeeded.

It was more to allow all those Cirru$ and Diamond 40 pilots to get their commercial rating.

 

[mandm]

How I read it is 2 G5s and an autopilot meets the requirement. Although my club airplanes have a 650 as well.

 

[bbchien]

Airspeed has to be part of the display, not groundspeed.....

 

[Jim K]

Airspeed has to be part of the display, not groundspeed.....

G5s display IAS and GS. Also TAS with a GAD29 and air temp probe.

How I read it is 2 G5s and an autopilot meets the requirement. Although my club airplanes have a 650 as well.

The second display (MFD) must have a moving map display, so the second G5 doesn't cut it. I think even a 430 would though. Also need a 2 axis AP.

Technically Advanced Airplanes

An electronic Primary Flight Display (PFD) that includes, at a minimum, an airspeed indicator, turn coordinator, attitude indicator, heading indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator.

An electronic Multifunction Display (MFD) that includes, at a minimum, a moving map using Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation with the aircraft position displayed.

A two axis autopilot integrated with the navigation and heading guidance system.

The display elements described in paragraphs (j)(1) and (2) of this section must be continuously visible.

If you want to get real pedantic, the moving map can be switched off on the navigators, but i think the same is true of the "real" TAA g500,1000, etc.

Also, G5s can be set up a number of different ways, so it needs to hit all the requirements. I've never seen a dual g5 installation (not that I've seen that many) that didn't, however.

 

[Pinecone]

AP has to be coupled to nav to meet TAA requirements.

Just pointing out.

 

[TommyG]

This is one of those things the FAA has not made a decision, DPE have differing opinions. I don’t think all the FSDO have the same opinions.

 

[TCABM]

This is one of those things the FAA has not made a decision, DPE have differing opinions. I don’t think all the FSDO have the same opinions.

The FAA’s decision is codified in 14 CFR 61.129(j).

Technically advanced airplane. Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator, a technically advanced airplane must be equipped with an electronically advanced avionics system that includes the following installed components:

(1) An electronic Primary Flight Display (PFD) that includes, at a minimum, an airspeed indicator, turn coordinator, attitude indicator, heading indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator;

(2) An electronic Multifunction Display (MFD) that includes, at a minimum, a moving map using Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation with the aircraft position displayed;

(3) A two axis autopilot integrated with the navigation and heading guidance system; and

(4) The display elements described in paragraphs (j)(1) and (2) of this section must be continuously visible.

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[morleyz]

If you want to get real pedantic, the moving map can be switched off on the navigators, but i think the same is true of the "real" TAA g500,1000, etc.

I've always read that part of the requirement to mean you need to be able to display all of required components simultaneously. Meaning, if you had an Avidyne IFD-550, you couldn't use the synthetic vision page as your PFD because you can't display both that and the moving map.

I think all glass panels could theoretically be turned off and every one that I have worked with certainly has other displays, settings, etc. that could be switched to.