Started learning holding patterns. Suggestions on easiest way to learn?
I didn't really follow the 70/110 degree method..
What is 70/110 degree method?
What is 70/110 degree method?
Start by watching this, IMHO:Started learning holding patterns. Suggestions on easiest way to learn?
Find a good instructor, start on paper, then move to something like Nav Trainer on iPad or Tim's Air Navigation Simulator on a PC, then the sim, then the airplane.Started learning holding patterns. Suggestions on easiest way to learn?
The center is the holding fix, not all holds are at a VOR. An RMI isn't required for visualization either.The center is the VOR...
And sterling advice it is, too, since you don't want to have to unlearn old habits when you transition to something faster than a corn-popper.The various depicted entries are advisory.
It is way to complicated for me, draw it and it always makes sense.
The center is the holding fix, not all holds are at a VOR. An RMI isn't required for visualization either.
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I said "on paper" above, but a black/white-board is just as good.On a black- or whiteboard, one-on-one with a CFI who understands how to teach it without simply mouthing the official line.
Well, one way is to let the GNS 480 tell me "HOLD PARALLEL AHEAD" and then leave the AP coupled and watch it fly the entry. I doubt that would have gotten me far on the check ride.
Except for the written exam, where you have time to sit there and actually draw out the inbound course and the pie wedges above, the fly to the fix and do the best turn that gets you back to the inbound course suggestion works fine at the speeds most of us fly. The various depicted entries are advisory.
I said "on paper" above, but a black/white-board is just as good.
Hi CPA.
Back when I was trying to learn the entries, my instructor said if the inbound course is ahead to your left, parallel, if ahead and to your right, teardrop, if it is behind you, direct. That has worked great for me. It's easy to remember and no drawing is required. You should always know where you are in relation to the fix.
have you or your instructor do some ground school. have him give you holding clearences. draw out the pattern and try to figure out which way you would enter
Fly outbound from the fix, 7000 feet over your holding altitude, do a split s back towards the fix and start holding.
have you or your instructor do some ground school. have him give you holding clearences. draw out the pattern and try to figure out which way you would enter
I didn't really follow the 70/110 degree method. I simply diagramed the hold in relation to where I am relative to the fix, and asked myself "How can I cross the fix, stay within the safe zone, and make the inbound turn as efficiently as possible?" It all seems to work out safely and technically correct.
Don't overthink them. Your examiner and,ultimately ATC, doesn't really care which method of entry you use as long as it gets you into the hold while staying close to the protected side.
Or you could buy a GTN WAAS GPS and have it tell you which pattern entry.
i thought i saw a video on youtube where a guy entered in an arbitrary hold off a random fix and the gtn750 drew the pattern for him . i may be mistaken thoughOnly if that hold is in the procedure database. Even the GTNs do NOT allow you to input arbitrary holds into the flight plan (or by any other means).
Of course, I've never been given other than a direct entry hold that wasn't part of a procedure.
Or you could buy a GTN WAAS GPS and have it tell you which pattern entrySeriously, when I was learning holds, the mental math that my instructor was trying to teach just wasn't sticking. Loren is right, as long as you are on the protected side and can get established without too much gymnastics, no one will care.