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RE: Vaporware
..there's a continuum there, part of it depending on how outlandish the claim is combined with how much credibility the entity has (track record, financials, scientific plausibility)
on the one end you have literal water vapor and the other the 172
..I'd put thousands of stupid eVtol concepts right there with water vapor.. so far everything we've seen is just a dressed up quadcopter all waiting on some magical promise of that breakthrough battery and sweeping updates to aviation regs
following that you've got the Boom Overture.. supersonic travel has been tried many a times.. the 787 was originally a near supersonic cruiser, the Citation X (near), and obviously the Concorde, TU-144, Boeing 2707. Boom Overture (stupid name btw) has a long road ahead of it.. they seem to have financial strength for now, but not much else
The Raptor actually flew, and flew quite a bit. Granted, it was a poorly built Velocity rip off that miserably failed nearly every performance target, yet, it did fly, several times, and managed an engine out off field landing that resulted in virtually no injuries (from what we can tell) - that's something
The Celera is less vaporware, it appears to have a competent test and development program.. although they haven't met their targets yet it so far seems to be doing well.. hitting about 220 knots and managing to climb to 14K. I'd imagine given the publicity that has surrounded it they're going to be very cautious with pushing that plane, virtually all of it is new, including the engine. Either way, the Raptor never got anywhere near 250 mph and 14K.. it struggled to climb above pattern altitude
For comparison I threw the Rivian and the Cybertruck in there. The Rivian will happen, but Tesla is an established brand now with a loyal following.. so the Cybertruck is less of a vaporware product. Lucid is somewhere there too, probably more vapor than R1T
..there's a continuum there, part of it depending on how outlandish the claim is combined with how much credibility the entity has (track record, financials, scientific plausibility)
on the one end you have literal water vapor and the other the 172
..I'd put thousands of stupid eVtol concepts right there with water vapor.. so far everything we've seen is just a dressed up quadcopter all waiting on some magical promise of that breakthrough battery and sweeping updates to aviation regs
following that you've got the Boom Overture.. supersonic travel has been tried many a times.. the 787 was originally a near supersonic cruiser, the Citation X (near), and obviously the Concorde, TU-144, Boeing 2707. Boom Overture (stupid name btw) has a long road ahead of it.. they seem to have financial strength for now, but not much else
The Raptor actually flew, and flew quite a bit. Granted, it was a poorly built Velocity rip off that miserably failed nearly every performance target, yet, it did fly, several times, and managed an engine out off field landing that resulted in virtually no injuries (from what we can tell) - that's something
The Celera is less vaporware, it appears to have a competent test and development program.. although they haven't met their targets yet it so far seems to be doing well.. hitting about 220 knots and managing to climb to 14K. I'd imagine given the publicity that has surrounded it they're going to be very cautious with pushing that plane, virtually all of it is new, including the engine. Either way, the Raptor never got anywhere near 250 mph and 14K.. it struggled to climb above pattern altitude
For comparison I threw the Rivian and the Cybertruck in there. The Rivian will happen, but Tesla is an established brand now with a loyal following.. so the Cybertruck is less of a vaporware product. Lucid is somewhere there too, probably more vapor than R1T
