Another alleged drunk airline pilot

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This seems to be getting to be the normal, report of another alleged airline pilot removed for being drunk.
 
8 miles bottle to throttle is the rule once you go ATP, right?


Where's the link big dog?
 
GlennAB1 said:
Imagine that.

At least you never hear of drunk mechanics...
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.albumtemp.JPG Have you never understood the purpose of this? It's a place for the mechanics to set their beer.
 
mtuomi said:
Bo owners don't have time to write all the checks they have to. They've set up direct debit! :D
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We just put the mechanic on a joint account so he can take whatever he feels appropriate :)
 
Im sorry, I just can't understand why someone would do this. Maybe I'm living in a dream world or something, but I just can't fathom someone who puts years of work and 10's of thousands of dollars in his or her career and just ****es it away just like that. I guess maybe I don't understand the addiction or the attitude that goes with that.
 
A few years ago, myself and two uniformed Sky West pilots closed down a local bar. They got so messed up that the captain had to carry the FO out on his shoulder. They were scheduled to fly at 8:00 a.m. that morning.
 
Sac Arrow said:
A few years ago, myself and two uniformed Sky West pilots closed down a local bar. They got so messed up that the captain had to carry the FO out on his shoulder. They were scheduled to fly at 8:00 a.m. that morning.
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People are stupid. Its just that some people happen to be airline pilots.
 
Ryanb said:
View attachment 48735 Have you never understood the purpose of this? It's a place for the mechanics to set their beer.
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What is that actually meant to do? Flew an A36 that had one.

Sac Arrow said:
A few years ago, myself and two uniformed Sky West pilots closed down a local bar. They got so messed up that the captain had to carry the FO out on his shoulder. They were scheduled to fly at 8:00 a.m. that morning.
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Unbelievable.
 
I don't know that there are necessarily more drunk pilots, but people are starting to notice more often and taking the risk of speaking up.

As far as alcoholism in the airline industry...it shouldn't be particularly surprising:
1) spending a lot of time with new people for several days at a time. Alcohol is a natural social lubricant.
2) spending time away from home and family; stress on family and relationships
3) self medicating for depression; actually treating depression is medically grounding
4) self medicating for trouble sleeping.
 
Crane Pilot said:
Im sorry, I just can't understand why someone would do this. Maybe I'm living in a dream world or something, but I just can't fathom someone who puts years of work and 10's of thousands of dollars in his or her career and just ****es it away just like that. I guess maybe I don't understand the addiction or the attitude that goes with that.
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How about doctors and nurses ? Why would they spend all that time and money then get drunk and get caught in the operating room! While evaluating, nurse drunk on duty in the ecu!? Same reason.....alcoholism is an addiction just like cocaine, maryjane, whatever. Just depends on what you want to fry your brain with! Lots of doctors and nurses are or were active drunks, drug addicts. Remember .....they have the key to the drug locker!
 
Brad Z said:
I don't know that there are necessarily more drunk pilots, but people are starting to notice more often and taking the risk of speaking up.
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Yup, this and TSA agents leaning in close to pilots going thru security to see if they can smell alcohol. I've seen it, makes their day if they catch one. A similar incident I had a passenger boarding the plane asked the FA if we were sober after another crew (another airline) got caught the previous day. I called the dude up and told him we have some options here. We can go get tested to prove we were sober and delay/cancel the flight, or you can go take your seat and keep your comments to yourself. Scared the crap outa him, and he was a good boy during the flight. I realize he was trying to be funny but after it happens enough you get tired of it.
 
The three left seats that I know that got caught, were turned in by stews, ( oh I'm sorry FAs) the doctors, three also, were turned in either by doctors or nurses, the one in the operating room by another doctor. One pilot was drinking on the airplane in the rest room, and the stew got a good whiff of him, turned him in on landing. The fo said nothing. Another arrived in the cockpit with vomit on his jacket. The fo refused to fly with him. He put in for early retirement and left.
 
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Cpt_Kirk said:
What is that actually meant to do? Flew an A36 that had one.
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I honestly don't know either. I've always known it to be the mechanics cup holder. I'd like to know what it is myself.
 
It's okay to be drunk and it's okay to be an airline pilot, just not both at the same time.
 
Jimmy cooper said:
The three left seats that I know that got caught, were turned in by stews, ( oh I'm sorry FAs) the doctors, three also, were turned in either by doctors or nurses, the one in the operating room by another doctor. One pilot was drinking on the airplane in the rest room, and the stew got a good whiff of him, turned him in on landing. The fo said nothing. Another arrived in the cockpit with vomit on his jacket. The fo refused to fly with him. He put in for early retirement and left.
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So what happens to a First officer if he turns in the pilot.
 
brien23 said:
So what happens to a First officer if he turns in the pilot.
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Nothing at all. Although the conventional wisdom is to confront the other pilot long before they ever get to the airport, and force that pilot to pull himself off the trip. A late sick call might raise an eyebrow, but it's certainly preferable to what happened here.

That's why these situations are so baffling to most of us - even if you're dumb enough to go big before an early report, there's just no reason to let it get to an eager TSA guy that would love nothing more than to bust a pilot.

But I guess addiction makes people do baffling things. ::shrug:: Because unless the pilot has a no crap problem with booze, it just doesn't make any sense.
 
Ryanb said:
I honestly don't know either. I've always known it to be the mechanics cup holder. I'd like to know what it is myself.
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Stall strip. Determines where on the wing the stall will be initiated for better controllability.
 
Sac Arrow said:
A few years ago, myself and two uniformed Sky West pilots closed down a local bar. They got so messed up that the captain had to carry the FO out on his shoulder. They were scheduled to fly at 8:00 a.m. that morning.
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If they were drinking in uniform they had already violated company policy and could have been terminated.
 
172andyou said:
Stall strip. Determines where on the wing the stall will be initiated for better controllability.
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Many planes have them. The Mooney does, they're just much smaller:

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Cpt_Kirk said:
What is that actually meant to do? Flew an A36 that had one.
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Vortex generator to cause the stall burble to not reach the ailerons.

Or desk to sign the fuel slip.
 
Crane Pilot said:
Im sorry, I just can't understand why someone would do this. Maybe I'm living in a dream world or something, but I just can't fathom someone who puts years of work and 10's of thousands of dollars in his or her career and just ****es it away just like that. I guess maybe I don't understand the addiction or the attitude that goes with that.
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That's addiction for you... who goes into life thinking smoking crack would be a good idea.... or that shooting up is a blast!
 
Sac Arrow said:
A few years ago, myself and two uniformed Sky West pilots closed down a local bar. They got so messed up that the captain had to carry the FO out on his shoulder. They were scheduled to fly at 8:00 a.m. that morning.
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I find it VERY difficult to believe that anyone would be stupid enough to consume alcohol while in uniform.
 
Art VanDelay said:
I find it VERY difficult to believe that anyone would be stupid enough to consume alcohol while in uniform.
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At least "deinsigna"! Is that even a word? I mean, take the wings and epulets off.
 
Art VanDelay said:
I find it VERY difficult to believe that anyone would be stupid enough to consume alcohol while in uniform.
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There was a several year period in my life when I rarely consumed alcohol OUT of uniform.
 
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