ADSB-in solutions?

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What are the options for adding ADSB-in to the following panel? The 430 and Aspen should both be capable of showing traffic and weather, if properly integrated with something....

Aspen 1000 Pro Max
Garmin GNS-430W
GARMIN GTX-330ES
 
Don't know about the aspen, but ads-b on a 430w is horrid (IMHO)...
Better to display it on a tablet of your choice.
 
If just weather & traffic, why not skip the avionics shop & use a GDL-50 & IPad mini?
 
I put in a Freeflight Rangr RX in my Warrior. It interfaces with my 430W as well as provides a wireless connection for all my IPads. Has worked very well although I do get some error messages on the 430w occasionally that signal has been lost on traffic but the IPads work fine when this happens. This was part of group buy on Beechtalk and vendor gave a discount on purchase price.
 
I also have aspens and a 430 (non was) in my Cherokee. Best value for money I found was to get a Garmin GNX 375. It adds LPV approaches as well as an ADSB in /out transponder. Talks great with the aspen, can display traffic / weather on there (if you unlock it). Upload flight plans from ForeFlight to the unit as well as displaying ADS-B traffic / weather on ForeFlight. Also I fly in to a poorly lit airfield quite often at night. The visual approaches it’ll put up on the aspen are a life safer.
 
Simon reed said:
I also have aspens and a 430 (non was) in my Cherokee. Best value for money I found was to get a Garmin GNX 375. It adds LPV approaches as well as an ADSB in /out transponder. Talks great with the aspen, can display traffic / weather on there (if you unlock it). Upload flight plans from ForeFlight to the unit as well as displaying ADS-B traffic / weather on ForeFlight. Also I fly in to a poorly lit airfield quite often at night. The visual approaches it’ll put up on the aspen are a life safer.
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Yeah, it’s a good option, but I already have gps and adsb out, so it’s a lot of money just for in.
 
Salty said:
Yeah, it’s a good option, but I already have gps and adsb out, so it’s a lot of money just for in.
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Yeah. If I had a 430W I probably wouldn’t have spent the money. But I needed a WAAS GPS so made sense.
 
EdFred said:
if you already have out, what about a portable in?
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I have that. Would like something in the panel. Like I said, not worth $8,000, curious if there was an easier way, but the cheapest I've found is a used GDL-88 and that still ain't cheap.
 
Salty said:
I have that. Would like something in the panel. Like I said, not worth $8,000, curious if there was an easier way, but the cheapest I've found is a used GDL-88 and that still ain't cheap.
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A lot depends if you can do the work yourself. If you have to pay a shop, then it gets expensive. Otherwise if you have a second Nav receiver you can use for ILS and VOR’s, take your 430w out and sell on eBay for about the money you’d pay for the 375. You can also pull out your 330ES and sell that. Even if you don’t have a second nav receiver, the aircraft is still IFR certified with just a WAAS GPS, and most airports have RNAV / GPS approaches which match the Minimums of an ILS. So kind of depends on how much hard IFR you fly and your preference on using a ILS over RNAV. Sorry if that’s a little off topic.
 
Not off topic at all IMO.
 
Ditto EdFred. I use ForeFlight and a portable ADS-B receiver...it displays traffic and weather on my ipad mounted on the yoke and sends alerts to my audio panel via bluetooth. I like the traffic display on ForeFlight better than what I have seen on GNS and GTN. Just my 2 cents..
 
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NealRomeoGolf said:
Putting in a Garmin 345 transponder. I highly recommend an FS210 too.
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This is the killer set-up. OMG, once you fly with FS210, GTX-345, and a WAAS GPS (even a 430W) you'll see what you've been missing.
  • One button to upload flight plans ForeFlight/GPS and back
  • Weather & Traffic on ForeFlight
  • Fully drive ForeFlight synthetic vision
  • Situational awareness with the accuracy of WAAS GPS
  • No more "buttonology" on the 430W. Drive all nav features from ForeFlight
My full size iPad is mounted on my 182's Yoke. My dreams of urgently buying a new glass panel dissipated greatly.

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Required to use certain software though and I refuse to buy Apple.
 
Salty said:
I have that. Would like something in the panel. Like I said, not worth $8,000, curious if there was an easier way, but the cheapest I've found is a used GDL-88 and that still ain't cheap.
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Aera 660 with panel doc and something to feed it (GTX-345)
 
Used GDL-39 and Foreflight. Cost effective as hell.

If you want to spend money, Lynx-9000 for traffic/weather and Foreflight. ADS-B sucks on a 430W.
 
Salty said:
What are the options for adding ADSB-in to the following panel? The 430 and Aspen should both be capable of showing traffic and weather, if properly integrated with something....

Aspen 1000 Pro Max
Garmin GNS-430W
GARMIN GTX-330ES
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I also have an Aspen but with a GNS430W. I was, in the distant past, very hot to get the ADSB weather and traffic on the panel somehow, I never did. But I do get the output from my Stormscope WX500 to both the Aspen and 430W, which is very nice.

In my research, there were various ADSB transceivers out there at the time that interfaced with the Aspen after key turn on, one of which being the NGT9000. There was also an Aspen ATX 200, which was IIRC a rebranded Freeflight Rangr XVR. I think the Freeflight was able to interface traffic with the GNS430W, as was the I’ll fated Navworx ads600-B. I think I remember that the KT74 could also show traffic on the 430W, but that might have been only TIS-A.
However, since I wanted to keep using FLYQ, this prevented me from considering the various Garmin ADSB solutions, like the 345, that enabled panel display.

As I waited to the very end of mandatory ADSB out for controlled airspace, I went the cheap route with TailBeacon and continuing to use my KT76A. While definitely not a panel mount situation, I simulated this by coupling with my portable Stratux receiver and wifi’d the weather and traffic to my 10.5 inch IPad, and have the traffic also show up on my IPhone simultaneously using a ram mount on the windshield. So while I only really needed the traffic always visible on the IPhone as an alerter in my scan, I could refer to the IPad for fine detail for both traffic and weather.
 
wheaties said:
Used GDL-39 and Foreflight. Cost effective as hell.

If you want to spend money, Lynx-9000 for traffic/weather and Foreflight. ADS-B sucks on a 430W.
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Sucks how? Traffic shows up just fine on mine.
 
kshaw said:
Yes, the King 74 can provide TIS-B traffic to the 430W, however TIS-B is only available around certain Class C or B airports and is being phased out. ADS-B provides much more robust traffic information. https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/capabilities/ins_outs/
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I could be wrong but I think you may be technically incorrect about the TIS-B. The TIS-B is what is given to ADS-B equipped aircraft and is not going away. TIS-A is what is being phased out. So, besides the KT74 being able to receive the TIS-A for display on a G430W, the OP’s own G330es, I think, can also do it.
 
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