A rant about dishwasher shopping....

GeorgeC said:
After flooding our kitchen twice and generally failing to spark joy, we finally upgraded to a Miele. It's really nice.
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18 years ago my folks replaced a 25yo Miele with another Miele. Mom complained today that it required a $200 repair a couple of months ago. I had a Miele for 10 years without any issues. The new ones don't beep and pop the door open into a latch at the end of the cycle. New house has a Jennair because it was 'free' after purchase of gas range and oven. It has the same amenities as the Mieles (cutlery tray, water softener). We'll see how it holds up.

Did I mention that I really really hate Electrolux/Fridgidaire?
 
I need a new dishwasher in the condo. Actually I need a new kitchen. It's original from the 1970s.
 
I have no complaints with my Frigidaire Gallery Premier dishwasher or microwave. They have been working for 5+ years with zero issues and always get the job done. The side-by-side fridge has been great except for the in-door ice dispenser won't dispense ice, but I've just been too lazy to investigate further.
 
I think Fisher Paykel has made my "avoid" list. While the units themselves seem fine, I find it hard to find people who work on them.
 
Our new Bosch dishwasher doesn't dry worth a carp. I hate it. We need to prop something in the door to keep it open so the dishes will even get semi-dry.

It is very quiet. If you want quiet, wet dishes, this is for you.

I don't remember shouting over our tremendously noisy last dishwasher, or ever thinking "dang that's way too loud". I almost can't wait for this dishwasher to die... I'll replace it with a noisy one that dries dishes.
 
I've had good luck with KitchenAid. New 12 years ago, 2 repair calls. One, a broken door spring. Second, a blown fuse. :mad: who uses fuses not circuit breakers these days? And why is it necessary to cut wires to replace the in-line fuse?

-Skip
 
cowman said:
I've been reading reviews... so far it's not helping. The typical pattern is about 1,000 5-star reviews that say THIS DISHWASHER IS AMAZING IT CHANGED MY LIFE WOW BEST THING EVER

then about 100 1 star reviews that say it's a big piece of junk that doesn't get anything clean, or dry(almost all of them say they don't dry) and that it breaks often.

I've never had or even seen a Bosh appliance at anyone's house that I can remember but I know they're a good name in the auto parts world... hmm.. will have to take a look.



It's ok, I have a loud stereo hooked up to the TV. :yesnod:

But really noise doesn't bother us a lot. My wife and I are both the sort of people who need to turn a fan on to sleep. Sometimes I can hear our dishwasher in the kitchen while I'm going to sleep, it doesn't bother me.... pretty much any consistent sound like a motor or humming I can sleep through. Stuff like people talking, stuff banging around, the dog chewing on something, etc that isn't a constant noise will keep me up all night even if barely audible though. Go figure.
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i'm having to buy two right now (for the rentals). One feature that seems to falling out of favor (because it's loud) is the built in grinder. i HATE cleaning those filters, so I buy them with grinders. I found one at sears for $425 (this isn't some link where i get paid, just the one i'm planning to buy after a bunch of research) http://www.sears.com/frigidaire-ffid2423rs-24inch-built-in-dishwasher-stainless-steel/p-02215273000P
 
pilot_dude said:
The best two dishwashers for the home I have found are Bosch and Miele with Electrolux coming in close behind. Agree with the idea they should do what they are designed to do first and everything else next.
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We have a Miele vacuum. It really sucks
 
Wow, holy thread resurrection.

For the sake of posterity I did get a dishwasher- a Samsung from Best Buy that had been marked down significantly because of a dent. I had to really look to even find the dent and the way our kitchen is lit in that spot, nobody can eve see it so who cares? It's getting the dishes clean and it's fairly roomy. I would have liked a food grinder and a heating element but it does have a fan that circulates air and gets the dishes relatively dry. Still working after a year. I think we paid something like $400 for a normally $700+ unit so I'm fairly happy with that.
 
Another plug for Bosch here. We didn't buy ours (it came with the house when we bought it) so I don't know exactly how old it is, but I'd guess at least 5 years. Very quiet, no issues with cleaning or drying (aside from the plastics issue previously noted). If I were shopping for a new dishwasher, it would be from them.

Edit: sorry didn't read previous or close enough to realize this was an old topic
 
Stewartb said:
Hated the Fischer and Paykel dish drawers. Love the Meile dishwasher that replaced them. The best part is it props the door partially open after the cycle is complete so dishes don't mildew in the day(s) that pass before I unload the dishwasher.
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Huh. Our Fisher and Paykel has been great, we've had it for 12 years. I like having the ability to place a small load in one drawer and run a cycle. It has a booster heating element which heats the wash water and also runs during the drying cycle. The dishes and glasses come out spotless.

It's quiet too. :D
 
GeorgeC said:
I think Fisher Paykel has made my "avoid" list. While the units themselves seem fine, I find it hard to find people who work on them.
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We use A&E Factory Service. They repair all brands of kitchen appliances, and the prices seem reasonable.
 
StevieTimes said:
Our new Bosch dishwasher doesn't dry worth a carp. I hate it. We need to prop something in the door to keep it open so the dishes will even get semi-dry.

It is very quiet. If you want quiet, wet dishes, this is for you.
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One reason it's so quiet is that it doesn't have a grinder in the drain. It has a filter instead. You have to make sure to clean the filter from time to time. The other reason is that it doesn't have a drying element. Instead, it heats up the final rinse water as hot as it can get. Theoretically, the hot water evaporates off of the hot dishes and condenses on the cooler walls of the dishwasher. In practice, it doesn't work so well if the dishes don't retain much heat and the walls of the dishwasher can't cool off. It would help if you don't use cheap thin plastic dishware with lots of nooks and crannies. :)
 
StevieTimes said:
Our new Bosch dishwasher doesn't dry worth a carp. I hate it. We need to prop something in the door to keep it open so the dishes will even get semi-dry.

It is very quiet. If you want quiet, wet dishes, this is for you.

I don't remember shouting over our tremendously noisy last dishwasher, or ever thinking "dang that's way too loud". I almost can't wait for this dishwasher to die... I'll replace it with a noisy one that dries dishes.
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You'll have trouble finding one that dries dishes. They've removed the heating element in the bottom that dried the dishes to save energy. What the Bosch does (I've got 2) is "super heat" the water for the last rinse cycle to heat the dishes up. This lets the water evaporate off the dishes. Unless they're plastic. In which case they don't dry worth a darn.

The quiet part is they removed the food disposal in the bottom. Now there's a filter which you get to take out and clean.

Don't get me wrong, I actually researched and picked the Bosch and I like it. But I didn't think through the plastic dishes part.

John
 
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