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I've also offered anyone on POA to PM me and visit the facility. Two years ago. To date, only one member took me up on the offer. Instead of typing things again, I'll include this link. http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/vfr-over-ord-class-b.70896/

I tried explaining it before. The "dump zone" is a term referring to the vectoring airspace an arrival controller uses to sequence and establish arrival aircraft onto the final approach course for the primary arrival runway(s). On west flow the primary arrival runways are 28C, 27L, and...

At 4,000-11,000 feet, we run arrivals over the city, Lake Michigan, and if on east flow over the western suburbs. At 3,000-4,000 feet, we run MDW arrivals south of the city. If on 22L, the arrivals go west over the lake until just south of Soldier Field, then turn final. Above the...

Over the lake you'll get either FIYER..OBK or V526..OBK. Plan on crossing FIYER or MUSKY at 4,000 and getting vectors north of PWK and west of ORD.

It's easier to let a VFR go thru, especially if you are lucky enough to do so between rushes. Just ask. IFR is a different story. No good way to get an overflight thru the airspace. Especially at 7,000.

@EdFred are you going over or around the lake?

If you are below 15,000, you can expect a routing over the lake or west around chicago's airspace. VFR, you can head under the bravo and pick up an IFR plan from GYY southeastward.

I think the Gulfstream driver had it right the first time. ;)

Two common themes I've heard from instructors of yore, "every rule in this book came from some accident or incident," and " this book was written by lawyers." Are the statements true? Who knows? Do the statements make sense? Yes.

I did 12 years in enroute. It was fun. Don't knock it until you've tried it. You are in college, trust me....you have no experience yet. I've seen some of the simulators you speak of. They do a decent job teaching basics, but they barely scratch the surface on what the actual environment...

I have a bunch of friends there that live on Amelia Island. Great area. 45 minutes from ZJX.

Until the late 1960's/early 1970's, absolutely. That's why the major centers are located at least 30NM from typical strike sites. After that point and with the advent and development of high yield bombs, that became a moot point. Or so I was told.

What @Unit74 said, is it a published procedure?

Technically, you are still operating VFR and not in radio contact with the controller. I would expect you to remain clear of the Charlie.

@mscard88 we still have a flight deck training program, if that's what you are referring to... We are required to be in a duty status (meaning we can't take our own time to do the trip) and can only take the trip if staffing and the operation will not be impacted. I only know the cliff notes...

No, they don't.

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I've been working traffic for 14 years, currently at Chicago TRACON. I also worked at Chicago ARTCC.

From the AIM 4-2-3 d (2): In a nutshell... Just let the controller know the new frequency, or come up on the new frequency and state your callsign. All other initial call up information should be omitted. We do this in many low altitude enroute and/or terminal areas where frequency...