Thank you for the clarification.
How would a trained 737 crew not realize the implications of overriding the latch and pulling two big red fire handles? The overhead panel is even marked showing which systems are affected by the fire switches.
Stranger things have happened. Especially in places with training standards not as high as the US.
They are wrong, as I've explained above.
I would be. No benefit to doing so and you're too busy trying to keep the aircraft under control. Securing the engines is on the evacuation checklist which you don't do until you've stopped and have made the decision to evacuate.
RTFT
I know the procedure very well.
From an American mindset no less. Folks were surprised a Korean carrier could let an FO have a job with the equivalent of C/MEL certificate and not 1500+hrs and an ATP.
Except those of us who were around before Colgan.
I have not read every post in this thread. I’m not sure what you are talking about. Is there a particular reason you quoted me?
I think there's a difference between extrapolating probabilities from known events and unsupported speculation.
I think some can't tell the difference.The Hallmark of POA...........
You just spelled Occam in cursive.
All I see here besides the facts is speculation. Some of that speculation is coming from people that know absolutely nothing about crew operations in transport category jets, some from subject matter experts and some looking for any excuse to **** on people.
Fair enough. I’m highly suspicious of any explanation other than pilot error as well.
What speculation? I've talked about how the systems work on the airplane and what the procedures and practices are. As a 737 pilot, I can't think of any reasons why the flight might have progressed as it did.
That’s because you’re competent and unimaginative. Lol
That's exactly it. I've tried to learn more about it all but the more I learn, the harder it is to understand how it ended this way.
We need more information before we'll be able to understand what happened.
I posted, many pages ago, of my own experience with bird strikes on final and that we had made the decision that we would not go-around. When an engine ingests birds you'll often smell the "burnt chicken" within a few seconds. At that point, you don't know how much damage, if any, the engines has received.
Tis many parts to this story.
How does pilot error explain the asymmetric reverse thrust deployment?
That would be normal if one engine had failed.
One possibility is the loss of both generators. That hasn't been confirmed. Pilot error could have contributed to that but there's nothing yet to suggest it.
Oh, I hadn't heard that. Odd, because the video I saw made it look like they were just turning final when the bird strike happened.
We'll get a better timeline eventually.
Odd. I would assume any failure would occur at the most stressful/ least opportune time.
Not necessarily. They'll look at every dang piece of that plane, and they'll know the exact location of the cameras that caught it, and there's a lot that can be learned still. It'll be difficult to figure out the thought process of the flight crew, but knowing the details that are still available will definitely give us a better picture than we have now.
I hope so but sadly I think they'd have just a good of chance finding a definitive cause by putting up a dart board with probable causes and throwing a dart at it and say case closed.
