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I'm not giving Gryder a view just to listen to him gloat.
Hmmm.If I read the appeals court document correctly, due to bad wording on the request for alternative service, the summary judgement was reversed.
Thanks, ghastly "viewer" can be bypassed by clicking on "Download pdf" on that page. It opened directly in my browser with no apparent file download/save.Appellate decision can be read here.
No one requires you to.did not click.
No one requires you to.
Aha! I didn't click on that either.I was referencing the YouTube link, if there was any confusion….
Uh huh... Yep... I agree...I dunno. I think there is a place in this world for Monday morning Youtube quarterbacks to pontificate about aircraft accidents.
You've lost me.I find Gryder to be reasonable most of the time.
Pro tip: It isn't his Monday morning quarterbacking that makes him so disliked.I dunno. I think there is a place in this world for Monday morning Youtube quarterbacks to pontificate about aircraft accidents. I find Gryder to be reasonable most of the time. The alternative is everyone shuts up for fear of being sued like this and we learn nothing from these accidents.
Couple other guys that are far more reliable and don't have to make up **** to be first.I dunno. I think there is a place in this world for Monday morning Youtube quarterbacks to pontificate about aircraft accidents. I find Gryder to be reasonable most of the time. The alternative is everyone shuts up for fear of being sued like this and we learn nothing from these accidents.
Thank you!Appellate decision can be read here.
Shocking that he'd call it a win.Not quite a “WIN.” Basic procedural issue.
The appellate court determined he wasn’t properly served so the default judgment against him was improper. Now the case goes back to the trial court where it proceeds normally*.
I think my "favorite" thing I've seen in a Gryder court transcript was when they went briefly off the record, and then the judge came back on and said he'd been spoken to by building security and that "Mr. Gryder came into the building and had on his person an item that is not permitted in this building. And when he was told to check it in with the guard and leave it there and pick it up on his way out, he ran off and came up here."(* to the extent anything involving Gryder is “normal.”)
The problem is, Gryder does come off as reasonable at first glance, but after you've looked at what he says, what he does, or had a discussion with him directly, you realize that he's actually full of crap. I mean, the guy has literally gone to an accident site and stolen evidence. He legitimately knows plenty about aviation, but he thinks he knows everything about everything.I dunno. I think there is a place in this world for Monday morning Youtube quarterbacks to pontificate about aircraft accidents. I find Gryder to be reasonable most of the time. The alternative is everyone shuts up for fear of being sued like this and we learn nothing from these accidents.
Not at all.Shocking that he'd call it a win.
I'm of the opinion that Dan is a scumbag ambulance chaser on the basis of his actions on youtube as well as the multiple issues working their way through the courts. I'm amused that there is one mod here that seems to like him and keeps shutting down Dan threads, but I suppose that's another subject.Shocking that he'd call it a win.
Really? I've not seen any get shut down, and there's plenty still open... I would imagine that if there are threads getting shut down they're probably ones where something potentially lawsuit-worthy got in.I'm of the opinion that Dan is a scumbag ambulance chaser on the basis of his actions on youtube as well as the multiple issues working their way through the courts. I'm amused that there is one mod here that seems to like him and keeps shutting down Dan threads, but I suppose that's another subject.
Won the battle, maybe, but I doubt he'll win the war.Having stated my bias: Dan absolutely won. Having a judgement set aside (summary or not) is absolutely a victory. Let him have his victory lap. This isn't close to being over.
Here are the two I remember well enough to search for and find. I believe there are at least two more.Really? I've not seen any get shut down, and there's plenty still open... I would imagine that if there are threads getting shut down they're probably ones where something potentially lawsuit-worthy got in.
This thread contains lots of examples: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...-biggest-asset-to-aviation-on-youtube.132633/At the risk of sounding like I don't know what is going on, what is the issue with Gryder?
I'm amused that there is one mod here that seems to like him and keeps shutting down Dan threads, but I suppose that's another subject.
One of those was shut down after 472 replies, and the other after 698. If that's a moderator showing favoritism toward Dan, they're pretty darn lazy about it.Here are the two I remember well enough to search for and find. I believe there are at least two more.
Dan Gryder Lockheed Electra Crash
Read my comment again slowly it will make more sense It makes perfect sense. Which of the emergency landings that he "walked away from" did he not have a hand in causing?www.pilotsofamerica.comIs Dan Gryder the biggest asset to aviation on youtube?
He's at it again. This guy is just a treasure trove of anti-authoritarian nonsense and dangerous behavior. Threatening to run over the police and then demanding they refill his DC3. He's a gift that keeps on giving. https://www.regulations.gov/document/FAA-2009-0281-0017...www.pilotsofamerica.com
The flip-side to that argument is that long threads like that show persistent interest and engagement, so why on earth are they being shut down except to protect him? I mean, jesus, we have a 17 year old thread that has absolutely nothing to do with aviation and has 455 pages of responses, but is still open for more despite one of those Gryder threads being shutdown because "This thread has long deviated from any aviation-related content." The deviation in question being about Dan's legal exposure.One of those was shut down after 472 replies, and the other after 698. If that's a moderator showing favoritism toward Dan, they're pretty darn lazy about it.
The alleged defamation is when Dan said that Cook had an affair, lied about his health to the FAA and sold a defective airplane.Dan made a few other statements about Charles being there, ill with Covid, coming to the site of the crash, etc., but I don't think those were defamatory. Some of these statements may not be 100% factually correct (maybe partially correct), but does it "damage" Charles?
You mean the one posted in this forum? The one specifically designated for any topic you like, aviation related or otherwise?I mean, jesus, we have a 17 year old thread that has absolutely nothing to do with aviation and has 455 pages of responses, but is still open for more...
Then move the gryder threads there and reopen them!You mean the one posted in this forum? The one designated for any topic you like, aviation related or otherwise?
Hangar TalkOpen forum for discussion of any topic you like, aviation related or otherwise.
An article on Captain Zoom's site about Dan Gryder is the link I am least likely to click, ever.The challenge here is that since the original filing, more information and a final report has been published on the crash. https://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=f9b97bf1-fbe4-492c-846c-cb577cfa4683 The plane was over gross. Within CG, but 225lbs too heavy.
The challenge here is that since the original filing, more information and a final report has been published on the crash….
This thread contains lots of examples: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...-biggest-asset-to-aviation-on-youtube.132633/
"Who am I? Why am I here?"That is of course if he hires a competent lawyer to represent him, if he tries to represent himself all bets are off.
This situation does remind me of when Zoom sued me and 14 others, ~25 years ago. In my case, the suit was dismissed due to improper service. Campbell was given six months to re-serve me, but never did.An article on Captain Zoom's site about Dan Gryder is the link I am least likely to click, ever.
You have read the Nov 21 suit?I’m not sure what that has to do with the complaints in the defamation suit.
You have read the Nov 21 suit?
PLTF'S ORIG PET November 19, 2021
PLTF'S ORIG PET November 19, 2021. Read court documents, court records online and search Trellis.law comprehensive legal database for any state court documents.trellis.law
Rather than everyone shutting up, maybe they could just not make up s*** about people they don't know. Although I guess everybody other than DG is already doing that. So yeah, in his case I think the alternative of just shutting up would actually be better.I dunno. I think there is a place in this world for Monday morning Youtube quarterbacks to pontificate about aircraft accidents. I find Gryder to be reasonable most of the time. The alternative is everyone shuts up for fear of being sued like this and we learn nothing from these accidents.