Would you leave your Job

LDJones said:
How about Pellston? (PLN) :wink2:
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I spent 5 days in Pellston once. It was pretty cool. Went to Mackinac Island one day, drove up to the UP another day, rented a bicycle and rode around some town the next day. Bought a bunch of cherries...
 
Everskyward said:
I spent 5 days in Pellston once. It was pretty cool. Went to Mackinac Island one day, drove up to the UP another day, rented a bicycle and rode around some town the next day. Bought a bunch of cherries...
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Yes, IF you can get away from the airport, it's a lovely area. But our overnights there are at the hotel across from the airport, with the airport restaurant as our only food option. So it's not our favorite overnight!
 
kayoh190 said:
Oh yeah? Well I just spent 30 hours in Detroit! Tell your old man to top THAT!

:D
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What's wrong with Detroit? Sure, the city proper has some crappy parts, but get just out of the city and it's not the worst place in the world.

jordane93 said:
Detroit will probably be better than my overnights at 9E!
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Honestly, I'm yet to see any bad layover. I can't remember, have you interviewed yet or are you already with 9E?
 
LDJones said:
How about Pellston? (PLN) :wink2:
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You guys get all the more "nothern" Michigan destinations it seems these days. Quite a few places I'd probably enjoy going, but we aren't flying there right now it seems.
 
Kritchlow said:
Stayed in Detroit and stayed in Pellston...

The worst I've ever stayed, by leaps & bounds..

Kremling, CO.

OMFG.
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Really? People vacation in Kremmling. Well, maybe not the town, but the environs.
 
Everskyward said:
Really? People vacation in Kremmling. Well, maybe not the town, but the environs.
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Exactly... I'm talking about the town. Not familiar with outskirts until you get close to Eagle.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
What's wrong with Detroit? Sure, the city proper has some crappy parts, but get just out of the city and it's not the worst place in the world.
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It was just a joke. Detroit just happened to be the last place I had an overnight. If I had stayed in some other city, I would have used that one. The joke was that most of my overnights are nothing like what Jordan's Dad had.
 
I used to fly for a regional, but left that over 10 years ago now. The QoL and pay was pretty awful.

But that said, if I got on with a major, I would have to seriously consider it. Even though it would be irrational and represent a significant pay cut. I like to fly...
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Honestly, I'm yet to see any bad layover. I can't remember, have you interviewed yet or are you already with 9E?
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Yes sir! April 25th they're sending me to Dallas CAE for the CTP course then May 9th is my class date. Stil need like 130 more hours and about 7 more multi.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
You guys get all the more "nothern" Michigan destinations it seems these days. Quite a few places I'd probably enjoy going, but we aren't flying there right now it seems.
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Yeah, we do. Sault St. Marie is actually kinda fun. Last time I was there I noticed a Bush Pilot Museum on the Canada side of the locks. Definitely going to try and get over there next time I'm up there.

In Iron Mountain, MI there's a Cargo Glider museum that's fascinating. Toured that with a Captain on one trip. Ford turned his Woody plant into a glider factory during the war....turned out 19,000 of those things! They're HUGE!

I can usually find something interesting in the worst of overnights. Even PLN has a great airport bar!
 
My most recent "best" layover was a Super Bowl flight to Oakland. Showed my new flying buddy around the area. We went to the Hyde Street Pier in San Francisco, to the beach, hiking in Redwood Regional Park and to a BBQ with my relatives during the SB. Best of all, flying in and out was easy. The reservation system must have worked.




Oh, and the Broncos won.

My worst overnights are the short ones....
 
Everskyward said:
My most recent "best" layover was a Super Bowl flight to Oakland. Showed my new flying buddy around the area. We went to the Hyde Street Pier in San Francisco, to the beach, hiking in Redwood Regional Park and to a BBQ with my relatives during the SB. Best of all, flying in and out was easy. The reservation system must have worked.




Oh, and the Broncos won.

My worst overnights are the short ones....
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Which is where corporate aviation has the potential to suck. Part 91 rules they can call you anytime and say "let's go". Part 135 rest times dispatch can call, if you have the duty left, and say "let's go". If not duty left they could call and say "your rest starts now. Report in 10 hours".

That can't happen with an airline.
 
Kritchlow said:
Which is where corporate aviation has the potential to suck. Part 91 rules they can call you anytime and say "let's go". Part 135 rest times dispatch can call, if you have the duty left, and say "let's go". If not duty left they could call and say "your rest starts now. Report in 10 hours".

That can't happen with an airline.
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It might have the potential to suck, but I have days off when they can't call, and I don't mind the unpredictability on other days. I flew less than 400 hours last year and don't think I had a stretch of overnights longer than 5 days. Most of my trips are day trips. Do you get a rental car? We do.
 
Kritchlow said:
Stayed in Detroit and stayed in Pellston...



The worst I've ever stayed, by leaps & bounds..



Kremling, CO.



OMFG.
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Everskyward said:
Really? People vacation in Kremmling. Well, maybe not the town, but the environs.
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There isn't jack crap *in* Kremmling.

They do put on a decent fireworks display on top of the Mesa, and they hired my wife to sing. LOL.
 
Everskyward said:
It might have the potential to suck, but I have days off when they can't call, and I don't mind the unpredictability on other days. I flew less than 400 hours last year and don't think I had a stretch of overnights longer than 5 days. Most of my trips are day trips. Do you get a rental car? We do.
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When I flew corporate we did not get a car unless cabs were not available. I like that policy... No waiting for some darn receipt for the expense report, no worries about returning the car, and most importantly we could have beers without worrying about driving. Company did pay for cabs.

We also had hard days off. My point was about being at superbowl. They might say "you're off duty at xxxx and on reserve tomorrow at xxxx". While we were still on duty it was fair game to change that, so partying was not a player during those times. If after we went off duty, and had a large rest period scheduled, they could not call so anything was fair game.
 
Kritchlow said:
When I flew corporate we did not get s car unless cabs were not available. I like that policy... No waiting for some darn receipt for the expense report, no worries about returning the car, and most importantly we could have beers without worrying about driving. Company did pay for cabs.



We also had hard days off. My point was about being at superbowl. They might say "you're off duty at xxxx and on reserve tomorrow at xxxx". While we were still on duty it was fair game to change that, so partying was not a player during those times. If after we went off duty, and had a large rest period scheduled, the could not call so anything was fair game.
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We can decline the car but virtually no one does. As far as being at the Super Bowl, we were there from Friday afternoon to late Sunday night and were on our own to do whatever between those times.
 
Everskyward said:
We can decline the car but virtually no one does. As far as being at the Super Bowl, we were there from Friday afternoon to late Sunday night and were on our own to do whatever between those times.
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That's awesome.... We would have been put on reserve. In addition to being called out (fairly likely with our company) it also meant subject to breath tests. Drink at you own risk....
 
Kritchlow said:
That's awesome.... We would have been put on reserve. In addition to being called out (fairly likely with our company) it also meant subject to breath tests. Drink at you own risk....
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We are very rarely "on call" when we are out of town. We usually stay on the trip with the customer when it is our own charter. If they do sell a trip within a trip, we get plenty of notice. When we are doing an owner flight they definitely don't let us sell a charter because we belong to them for that time. The good part is that it is owned by a large corporation which uses the airplane primarily for business. It's not the chariot of some flaky individual.
 
Everskyward said:
We are very rarely "on call" when we are out of town. We usually stay on the trip with the customer when it is our own charter. If they do sell a trip within a trip, we get plenty of notice. When we are doing an owner flight they definitely don't let us sell a charter because we belong to them for that time. The good part is that it is owned by a large corporation which uses the airplane primarily for business. It's not the chariot of some flaky individual.
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Sounds like a good gig you've got there...
 
evapilotaz said:
Ok guys please get back on topic please. Very much appreciate.
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After nine pages the topic does drift. Quite often because your question has been answered by all that care to answer.

Whether you realize it or not, everything here pertains to the pluses and minuses of an airline career.
I'm not sure exactly what you want? 25 pages of narrow answers to your specific question??
 
It's on topic. It's discussing the life of the job. Which certainly can help answer your question.
 
Boy, you guys with all your exotic Northern Michigan "hotspots" ! I've been having to make due with Rio and Buenos Aires. Oh well......
 
Kritchlow said:
After nine pages the topic does drift. Quite often because your question has been answered by all that care to answer.

Whether you realize it or not, everything here pertains to the pluses and minuses of an airline career.
I'm not sure exactly what you want? 25 pages of narrow answers to your specific question??
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Yep I think it's been beaten pretty good, but maybe he hasn't heard exactly what he wants to hear. OP wanna be more specific to avoid thread drift?

:dunno:
 
Shepherd said:
There was a time when Endicott, NY (BGM) was so bad as a layover, John Hart, who was born in Endicott NY, and the co-creator of "The Wizard of Id" cartoon, lampooned it one day by doing a series of completely blank panels, and in the last panel there is just a dialog bubble that says: "Reminds me of a weekend in Endicott, NY.).

For years, Endicott was THE IBM town and Watson Sr. a famous teetotaller, launched a campaign to buy up every gin-mill and bar in town and pave them over. He was very successful and almost made the town completely "dry".

I can't seem to find a copy of the strip, but I'll keep looking.
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How is this on Topic. :dunno:
 
I am actually seriously considering leaving engineering to become a pilot - it won't be an immediate decision, but something I am seriously going to consider over the next year.
 
evapilotaz said:
Would you leave your current Job if you had a Job Offer for a FO position at a Major Airlines?
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Hell no.

I like my job enough. I managed to climb a bit above the typical expendable IT peon. Probably not monetizing it enough, with 15 years with the same company, but it's not bad. As far as accomplishments go, I had more than a typical captain gets, unless he graduates to drive the (replacement) SS2 on its first revenue flight for VG, or something of that nature.

I don't have much time left to climb the seniority ladder.

And finally, the health problems are always waiting. I don't know enough about the disability insurance and forced early retirement for Part 121 guys, but I know a guy who's been flying for America West and got furloghed. They never recalled him, and now he's subsisting as a theater projectionist. Thanks, but no thanks. If my current company collapses and I get laid off, I have a choice pick of whatever place I fancy next. In airlines, I'm not sure what my chances are going to be, being a late starter and all.

But mostly it's down to not having any regrets that needed a cure of airline career.
 
Art VanDelay said:
Boy, you guys with all your exotic Northern Michigan "hotspots" ! I've been having to make due with Rio and Buenos Aires. Oh well......
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My upcoming locale for the next couple days, taken from the 118th floor:


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And fwiw, I've spent quite a bit of time doing 4 day trips where I got to overnight in FNT, GRR, LAN, and whatever the Zoo's identifier is... all on the same trip!
 
Rex Kramer said:
My upcoming locale for the next couple days, taken from the 118th floor:


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And fwiw, I've spent quite a bit of time doing 4 day trips where I got to overnight in FNT, GRR, LAN, and whatever the Zoo's identifier is... all on the same trip!
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Where is that? I want to go!
 
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