where to go for Type Rating ?

NJP_MAN said:
It will be an ATP. And it will be paid for. Why go to a job to get a 525 type somewhere I dont want to work when I can have someone pay for a 737 type ? I thought about going to a regional and walking out the moment I get the ATP temp but that takes too long. I like the 21 days and be done with the 737 type too.
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But you are getting a type with a limitation, and if you don't fly the 737 the limitation is never removed.
 
I would love to get the 7X type but that's 77k. I cant probably swing that
 
RotorAndWing said:
Yea, you'll get the ATP.
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So, let's say my only 2 choices are

1. Get the ATP in an Apache and never fly a 737.

2. Get the ATP in a B737 and never fly a 737.

What should I do? I think the simulator training is more in line with what my mission is. That mission is more relevant experience for the contracting work I have been doing.
 
NJP_MAN said:
So, let's say my only 2 choices are

1. Get the ATP in an Apache and never fly a 737.

2. Get the ATP in a B737 and never fly a 737.

What should I do? I think the simulator training is more in line with what my mission is. That mission is more relevant experience for the contracting work I have been doing.
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I take it your current employer doesn't send you to the sim on the Falcon? Even if you are right seat you could get your ATP next time in the sim.

There are several sims available, like someone said earlier Higher Power does 737 classic training. If that's what you want, go for it.
 
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NJP_MAN said:
So, let's say my only 2 choices are

1. Get the ATP in an Apache and never fly a 737.

2. Get the ATP in a B737 and never fly a 737.

What should I do? I think the simulator training is more in line with what my mission is. That mission is more relevant experience for the contracting work I have been doing.
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Id get it the cheapest way possible, I'd go apache.

If you want a fun type, I'd go DC3, B25, etc.

As for working pilot type ratings (Lear, falcon, Bxxx, etc) your employer should be paying for those, I wouldn't never buy one of these type ratings, and I don't think much of cheap wh*re pilots who do, they are part of the reason the industry got as screwed up for pilots as it did.

We in the pilot industry are just now bouncing back and things are starting to look up, be part of the solution, not the problem, OK?


NJP_MAN said:
I contract in the Falcon lineup using EASy2 avionics. I dont have an employer and there are a lot of 91 operators using contractors and refuse to hire pilots for their departments. I don't blame them for their decisions if they fly very little and don't want to salary someone when contracting Is far less than paying type, salary, and benefits. Its a bummer but it makes financial sense so they go that route. I capitalize on these operators and it gives me the ability to pay rent and things like that.
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Never mind the whole be part of the solution not the problem part, it looks like that ship sailed, thanks buddy, keep up the good work :rolleyes2:
 
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NJP_MAN said:
I contract in the Falcon lineup using EASy2 avionics. I dont have an employer and there are a lot of 91 operators using contractors and refuse to hire pilots for their departments. I don't blame them for their decisions if they fly very little and don't want to salary someone when contracting Is far less than paying type, salary, and benefits. Its a bummer but it makes financial sense so they go that route. I capitalize on these operators and it gives me the ability to pay rent and things like that.
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I was thinking you could do it on your next recurrent if you went to the sim.

Good luck with your ATP.
 
NJP_MAN said:
So, let's say my only 2 choices are

1. Get the ATP in an Apache and never fly a 737.

2. Get the ATP in a B737 and never fly a 737.

What should I do? I think the simulator training is more in line with what my mission is. That mission is more relevant experience for the contracting work I have been doing.
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3. Get your ATP in a King Air 200 simulator and maybe have an in for your contracting work.
 
NJP_MAN said:
According to industry sentiment that would be me buying my training and that's frowned upon. My King Air employer should pay for my King Air training.
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True, but since you seem bent on going against industry sentiment, you might consider something that has potential to advance your career more than another pretend type rating.
 
NJP_MAN said:
I contract in the Falcon lineup using EASy2 avionics. I dont have an employer and there are a lot of 91 operators using contractors and refuse to hire pilots for their departments. I don't blame them for their decisions if they fly very little and don't want to salary someone when contracting Is far less than paying type, salary, and benefits. Its a bummer but it makes financial sense so they go that route. I capitalize on these operators and it gives me the ability to pay rent and things like that.
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Ah - that makes sense. When you mentioned the time off, I figured you were salaried. As a contract guy, you get as much time off as you want!

Now that I know more, I think you should go get a 'fun' type. Something like a DC-3. I've always wanted to get a 727 type just because it's my favorite airplane. ;)
 
NJP_MAN said:
I paid for my commercial and Multi add on. I should have had "my employer pay for those" as well. Come to think of it, I should have had my employer pay for my college too.

All my training in the planes I fly has been paid for by the people paying me to fly them. I don't care if they are "pretend" type ratings. The money I put in the bank doing my job isn't pretend. Thats what's important.
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Well, there ya go, then.
 
If you want to get the type in something you are never gonna fly again, the DC-3 type sounds like a lot more fun than the 737 or MD-80. Looks like you can do that one for alittle under $20k. http://dc3training.com/type-rating/
 
NJP_MAN said:
According to industry sentiment that would be me buying my training and that's frowned upon. My King Air employer should pay for my King Air training.
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When you are contracting you don't have an "employer". I know plenty of contractors who have paid for a type and recurrent training. But they charge a pretty high daily rate.
 
NJP_MAN said:
I know. But even if I had a real type I would have trouble getting any additional work outside of the work I have. Something about insurance requiring millions of hours to fly around what amounts to a 172 with turbines like a CE525.
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True. It doesn't help when you are low time with no time in type and no jet PIC time.
 
Everskyward said:
True. It doesn't help when you are low time with no time in type and no jet PIC time.
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Exactly. So if I went for a "working type" I couldn't even work anyway. So I might as well have some fun in a sim while getting the ATP finished. Thats all I'm really trying to do.
 
NJP_MAN said:
Exactly. So if I went for a "working type" I couldn't even work anyway. So I might as well have some fun in a sim while getting the ATP finished. Thats all I'm really trying to do.
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True, so if you think a B737 would be fun, go for it.

There are those who would advise you to go for "easy" since you don't want a pink slip, but I say go have fun. I think I would pick the DC-3 though, but that's me.
 
Gucci Pilot said:
If you want to get the type in something you are never gonna fly again, the DC-3 type sounds like a lot more fun than the 737 or MD-80. Looks like you can do that one for alittle under $20k. http://dc3training.com/type-rating/
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If you end up doing the DC-3, this is the place to go:

http://www.eliteflightservices.com/DC3Ratings.html

Dan used to have the contract for type and recurrent training for the FAA guys back when they were still flying N34. He can set you up for the full ATP/DC-3 checkride.
 
NJP_MAN said:
Exactly. So if I went for a "working type" I couldn't even work anyway. So I might as well have some fun in a sim while getting the ATP finished. Thats all I'm really trying to do.
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Higher Power probably offers the best rates.

Aerostar Type Ratings also does the 737.
 
RotorAndWing said:
Higher Power probably offers the best rates.

Aerostar Type Ratings also does the 737.
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Thanks for the info. I have contacted Higher Power and now have a quote. I'm not totally ruling out just doing it in the Apache either. That would only be 2-3 days and it's already scheduled so it's the easiest route.
 
Something isn't right here. How are you flying a large cabin jet and have such a deficiency on the understanding of the ATP/ type rating process?
 
CFI AandP said:
Something isn't right here. How are you flying a large cabin jet and have such a deficiency on the understanding of the ATP/ type rating process?
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Because he's a warm body warming a legally required seat for a company that is too cheap to send FO's to get real valuable simulator training, would be a guess.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Because he's a warm body warming a legally required seat for a company that is too cheap to send FO's to get real valuable simulator training, would be a guess.
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Aaaand we have a winner :yes:
 
CFI AandP said:
Something isn't right here. How are you flying a large cabin jet and have such a deficiency on the understanding of the ATP/ type rating process?
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This right here, if he/she is for real. :yesnod:
 
NJP_MAN said:
I don't have a deficiency on the understanding. I just was looking for recommendations on where people go. What makes you think I dont understand the process ????
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Because your responses indicate a pattern of limited knowledge and very poor financial planning.
 
Fearless Tower said:
If you end up doing the DC-3, this is the place to go:

http://www.eliteflightservices.com/DC3Ratings.html

Dan used to have the contract for type and recurrent training for the FAA guys back when they were still flying N34. He can set you up for the full ATP/DC-3 checkride.
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Wow ! 18k for a DC-3 type rating !
I guess I'm having more than a little sticker shock with that number because that's about four times more than I've spent for my entire flight training to this point.
 
Art VanDelay said:
Wow ! 18k for a DC-3 type rating !
I guess I'm having more than a little sticker shock with that number because that's about four times more than I've spent for my entire flight training to this point.
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I've paid over 45k and no debt. Still think I have poor financial planning?
 
NJP_MAN said:
Poor financial planning ? I've paid cash for all of my flight training have paid off my college degree and have procured a scholarship for a typerating/atp. Sounds like my planning is better that anybody else's I have ever met. My parents didn't pay a dime for flight or school and I'm in the black. Thats as good as it gets pal.
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So blowing your money on a 737 type to get an ATP versus just doing it in a rickety-ass Apache makes good sense ?
 
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