What are the chances of this coming from together?

11k on the airframe and the tail hasn't fallen off. Must have been doing something right!
 
Why was it flown by the post office?
 
The odds that it will come from together are good...the only real question is when...
 
What difference does it make as long as it gets you across the river, Clark!







That was a really bad "vacation" joke.
 
About this time last year I flew & considered buying a 1964 S model with 10,000 hours TT. I too have heard all the myths of Bonanzas falling out of the sky with out a tail. After my research, I determined that a Bonanza was a totally safe aircraft if it was flown by a trained pilot that made good decisions regarding wx etc.

I decided to buy a 182 but still think owning a Bonanza would be a hoot. That looks like a good solid airplane.
 
Of the ones I've seen on the market in that price range... its one in my "favorites" column...
 
It is not a cirrus, that is why is has managed 11000 hours and more than one takeoff. How bad can it be? Take her up for a spin and put about six G's on her, if the wings and tail are still on after that then taker her home.
 
Acrodustertoo said:
It is not a cirrus, that is why is has managed 11000 hours and more than one takeoff. How bad can it be? Take her up for a spin and put about six G's on her, if the wings and tail are still on after that then taker her home.
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So, what do you do when a Cirrus hits 10k? Pop the chute and go get a new one?
 
Fearless Tower said:
So, what do you do when a Cirrus hits 10k? Pop the chute and go get a new one?
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You wake up! You had to be dreaming....

There is no such thing as a cirrus owner getting to ten grand, that is like driving around in a Mercedes Benz with the paint peeling off and rusty bumpers.
 
Fearless Tower said:
That seems to be true for most airplanes.
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I should clarify what I meant by that statement. In my research it appears that Bonanzas have a higher than average airframe failure rate in bad weather than many singles. Because of the sensitive roll rate & clean aerodynamic airframe, then can build up speed in a dive quite rapidly. A graveyard spiral can happen in short order.

The light control forces make then a joy to fly but must be respected.
 
Lot of the problem with the V tail was an engineering miscalculation done during the original design work. It put the safety margin a little closer to the design limits than it should have been. The leading edge cuff mod pretty well stopped people from pulling the tails off in most circumstances. It still can happen when someone messes up and penetrates some really rough weather or loses it and comes spinning out of the clouds.
 
Craig said:
Lot of the problem with the V tail was an engineering miscalculation done during the original design work. It put the safety margin a little closer to the design limits than it should have been. The leading edge cuff mod pretty well stopped people from pulling the tails off in most circumstances. It still can happen when someone messes up and penetrates some really rough weather or loses it and comes spinning out of the clouds.
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The cuff mod applies only to later V-tails, when the chord of the tail surfaces was increased, projecting further in front of the spar than prudent. They did not fail in normal speeds, but could flutter and fail at substantially greater than Vne. The cuff mod (which every V-tail to which it applies has) dealt with that issue conclusively.

When someone "...messes up and penetrates some really rough weather or loses it and comes spinning out of the clouds...," pretty much any airframe will fail, as history has shown us. Remember, the Bonanza is certified in the "Utility" category, which means it is stronger than required for "Standard." Doesn't help if the pilot kills the aircraft, though.
 
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