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which is best
Motzilla fire foX
MS explorer 8
Google Chrome
Opera
Safari
 
I have not heard good reports about IE9 in Win7.
Chrome is reported to have tied up Googles usenet servers for a few days.
Safari is a Mac product that will run in Win7, I've only played a little with it hand had no problems.
 
I use Google Chrome, and so far have no major complaints. I Don't have a clue which is better though.
 
IE9 just got the highest score in preventing known malware, FWIW. I still think it's awful, but the numbers don't lie.

Mozilla (Firefox) developers are totally out of control (again) and slapping out buggy versions as fast as they can.

Chrome still has the best "sandboxing" scheme, but Safari 5 is using a different scheme that may prove stronger in the long run.

All of them benefit from disabling most of the evil crap with NoScript.
 
I'm using Chrome and I like it a lot. It's faster than IE9 and I can save my Favorites "in the cloud" accessible by my Google Gmail address. So I can easily access my favorites from any computer anywhere.
 
They all suck. So far the one I found that sucks the least is Firefox. Several websites I use do not play well with Chrome. Safari, can't see the point. I don't like any of the other Apple software outside the iOS so I don't see any reason I'd want to use it on my Win7 computer. FireFox still has some issues, but all in all does ok.
 
I'm pretty much with Henning on this one. I like some of what I see in Chrome, but its operating logic is different enough that, if you're gonna switch, you're gonna have to do it all the way.
 
Tom-D said:
which is best
Motzilla fire foX
MS explorer 8
Google Chrome
Opera
Safari
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Best for what? What do want to use the browser for? Are there particular sites you use?
 
Henning said:
And that is the sort of question it is so ridiculous we have to answer.
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I'm having trouble parsing your response.

Are you saying it is ridiculous to determine the intended use for the browser?
 
I use several browsers. IE9 does not work on my bank's updated site so I have to use FireFox for that, but Firefox sucks for a couple of other web sites I use. Chrome is faster on some sites but just doesn't provide the tools (or at least I cant find them) that I want. So I use all three. There are some sites that I use all the time so they are tabbed in all of them, but each browser has some unique tabs. That also keeps from overloading any one browser. I only use Safari on the ipad/iphone because they pretty much lock you in. For the life of me, I just can't figure out the fanatical love of Apple. It has it's place, but it is not as good today as VMS was twenty years ago.
 
Im still using Seamonkey. They seem to be supporting it. A few issues but I really like one program for mail and browsing. The shortcut keys save tons of time because I go back and forth a lot.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
People continue to say it is ancient technology or some derogatory things but its been a boon to me.
 
JOhnH said:
For the life of me, I just can't figure out the fanatical love of Apple. It has it's place, but it is not as good today as VMS was twenty years ago.
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Nothing will ever be as focused and useful as VMS was. When you're so limited in compute power that you have to keep the crap off the machine, reserve time for the important stuff in batch jobs, and set real business priorities, computers tend to be more useful. ;)

Apple, MS, Linux... Nothing's that focused. They all look like crack-addicted ADD poster-children compared to VMS or even CICS.

For Safari, Apple's just using WebKit as are at least two other browsers mentioned here. They're identical code almost, under the hood, rebranded.

Browsers are commodities now. The devs don't feel that way who haven't grown up and started using frameworks that handle their differences transparently in their code yet (or nearly so), and tons of businesses haven't (your bank, as one example), but folks just grab three or four browsers until they find one that works for them when they run across those clueless business who never understood the IETF, RFCs and standards.

The features that have "worked for me" on Safari for a long time now are the effortless bookmark syncing via MobileMe -- which was working a long time before other browsers had it even as plug-ins, let alone natively...

And the new "Reader" tools that get rid of the multiple pages of advertising crap and "click next" for 30 pages.

Plus the new "read it later" tool, which I always managed as a separate bookmark pool... Making it it's own thing is just natural as evidenced by Reddit, Instapaper and others like them.

Safari by itself is just another WebKit browser. With a couple of nice features. Used with three machines and two mobile devices, via Apple's services, it becomes seamless.

Foxmarks and their resulting "we're closing, no wait we're not" drama, Google's defunct bookmark sync service, and lately the enormously buggy XMarks out of the embers of Foxmarks, have all been used here too, and I've been burnt by all of them.

(Google pulling theirs was particularly lame considering all the far-less-useful stuff they do in conjunction with their good stuff.)

The Apple sync stuff has generally just worked.

What most people see as fanatical behavior is actually real appreciation for them not screwing features like that one up very often, if at all. It's nice.

There's certainly stuff they do screw up (Bluetooth on iOS), but there's a lot more that works than doesn't.

Problem is, you won't see it just on a single copy of the browser without their paid services in the middle and more than one device. It'd kinda be like buying only one of the old CICS services on mainframes from IBM, or MS Word without the rest of the Office suite. It works but it's not exactly all that cool.

They apparently "get that" too, since iCloud has been announced and the pricing is now virtually zero.

The integration they do to all their stuff works, really works... but it's a "you get what you pay for" kinda thing. People don't like to pay. That's normal.

Since VMS is pretty dead, you may want to give it a try. :)

They're the only game in town trying to optimize the hardware, OS, *and* Applications across traditional desktop environments and mobile devices to always work together and have a consistent UI.

MS makes stabs at it via document formats, but not the OS. Windows and Windows Mobile are significantly different creatures.

The end result for me is that the computers and mobile devices feel like they're getting more and more "out of the way" on Apple so I can get whatever it was I wanted to do, done... Without wasting time on computer "stuff".

Single multi-finger swipe, click icon from the full screen of them, application launches. No menus, no mouse "target practice" getting there.

Keyboard shortcuts that are mandated to be the same between apps and that work. Simple stuff. Paying attention to those details.

The true full-screen zero border migration that's just starting is refreshing too. When I want no distractions I don't have to go find twenty things and close them. Just go full-screen. They have some work to do there on multi-monitor support I hear, but on a single, it's grand.

In the end their stuff is very focused. If you're in the target user base, you're happy. If you're not, you wonder what the fuss is all about.
 
Keith Lane said:
For browsing the internet???:dunno:
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Some people need to use explorer for certain sites. If the OP doesn't need to access sites that are so poorly designed that explorer is required, then ...geez figure it out.

If the OP doesn't want/desire/need the ability to modify the gui of the browser, then that diminishes one advantage of firefox.
 
I use Chrome almost exclusively. I have firefox as a backup.

I only use IE when I have to- for example University of Texas doesn't support anything but IE, so I have to use it to access outlook web access and the registrars system.
 
Bob Noel said:
I'm having trouble parsing your response.

Are you saying it is ridiculous to determine the intended use for the browser?
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How much more specific are we supposed to get than "Browser?" That IS the intended use name that 99.7% of people with a computer know.
 
Henning said:
How much more specific are we supposed to get than "Browser?" That IS the intended use name that 99.7% of people with a computer know.
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<sigh> Think man, Think.

Does every browser work with every site?

What would YOU propose as criteria for determining "which is best"? Note that "which is best" was the OP's question.
 
Simplicity is a big thing with me, I am not very computer smart in their use or capabilities.

I am running MS Windows XP simply because I do not like the appearance of the newer versions, and I installed motzilla firefox browser a years or so ago. this past week I have been getting a pop up message that says I have high memory usage by Firefox.

I ran the clean up tools installed by XP, and in doing so I corrupted something in firefox SO I removed Firefox and re-installed the MS browser from the XP disk.

Then I got the same message that says I now have high memory usage by the MS browser, (#7)

So.......

I down loaded Motzilla firefox again and saved it to the programs folder.

I ran the uninstaller and removed MS browser #7 and several other unused programs, then opened and started F/F and now we do not get the message any more.

My E-mail is regular old outlook express, simply because it what I started with, and it allows me to do what want, with out all the frills and fancy messaging I never use any way.

My problem is simple, I have way too much junk on the hard drive and I'd like to get it off with out destroying the programs I use.
 
Bob Noel said:
<sigh> Think man, Think.

Does every browser work with every site?

What would YOU propose as criteria for determining "which is best"? Note that "which is best" was the OP's question.
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The average person doesn't know what cauyses the difference between sites, and that is the other half of my rant, why are there multiple standards for sites that require multiple browsers?
 
What upsets me is that there are, in fact, standards, but there are no browsers that I know of that adhere to the standards. Even if they did, there's very few web developers that do.

So what we have is a set of standards that mean nothing, and we have the outcome of that being a number of browsers that render things differently.
 
Well, I have IE9 and Firefox installed on my computer as well.... but I'd say 90% of the time I use Chrome.

The other indispensible program I have is AdMuncher.


Ad Muncher Usage Statistics for v4.92 Build 32700/3685
Adverts removed by Ad Muncher: 126,898
Approximate bandwidth saved: 991 MB
Counter started: January 25, 2011


:D
 
Tom-D said:
Simplicity is a big thing with me, I am not very computer smart in their use or capabilities.

I am running MS Windows XP simply because I do not like the appearance of the newer versions, and I installed motzilla firefox browser a years or so ago. this past week I have been getting a pop up message that says I have high memory usage by Firefox.

I ran the clean up tools installed by XP, and in doing so I corrupted something in firefox SO I removed Firefox and re-installed the MS browser from the XP disk.

Then I got the same message that says I now have high memory usage by the MS browser, (#7)

So.......

I down loaded Motzilla firefox again and saved it to the programs folder.

I ran the uninstaller and removed MS browser #7 and several other unused programs, then opened and started F/F and now we do not get the message any more.

My E-mail is regular old outlook express, simply because it what I started with, and it allows me to do what want, with out all the frills and fancy messaging I never use any way.

My problem is simple, I have way too much junk on the hard drive and I'd like to get it off with out destroying the programs I use.
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Sounds like your definition of "best" is whatever causes you the least work, if you know what I mean.

I think Firefox will be fine for you. Even more so since it appears to be working. Don't fix what ain't broken.
 
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